juicemalone
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I don't think Jug looks at rank, just hype + pop standings. It's fine though I'm not gonna trip, he will be one of the best WW by the end of the year no problem.Haha, he was the only one free around my rank. Thought it'd be a fun fight.
Bet you'll prove him wrong though - he looks pretty solid.
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Meh I don't think Jergensen is in any of EVO's plans to be honest. He is just being used as a gatekeeper. I feel like Jug thinks he wasn't worth the money.This is awesome, bookmarking this fight!
Also, juice, I was hoping Sackett and Jergensen go toe to toe but I think the org may have different plans. Hopefully someday though!
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Cool thread; if you could--please link fighters.
Done
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I'm talking about fighter upsets not manager upsets. I don't care who owns them. You are talking about Soyster, I'm talking about Yamaji, who is a 36 year old journeyman that has cracked the top 500 once in his career and may never do it again. His last few wins have been against straight up cans too. Luatua on the other hand has won 10 in a row all KO/TKO and is a top 10 HW. If this isn't an upset what is? It's not often that you have such a huge disparity between ranking and accomplishments in a title fight that is taking place in a top 10 org.I wouldn't even necessarily consider that a major upset. Luatua is indeed a great fighter, and Hans has proven himself to be a great manager particularly with Heavyweights (Cyril Makarenko and Samson Goldstein being 2 of his other Heavyweights who have had great careers).
But you can't count out Soyster from this fight at all. It would be a huge win for Soyster don't get me wrong, and it will launch one of his guys way up the ranks, but I would consider this to be near enough a fair fight for both.
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After the discussion that my other thread about Perala beating Wein generated I thought it would be fun to try and keep track of and predict some of the upsets that are sure to come in the future.
My next upset to look out for.....
Robbie Luatua
http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=247302
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Masamichi Yamaji
http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=204560
Yamaji was recently gifted a short notice title shot after the number one contender went AWOL in Ascension. Luatua is currently ranked #50 p4p and Yamaji is in the 800s. Both guys are blessed with KO power. Yamaji seems to have the edge when KO ability, but cuts more easily. They have fought once before with Luatua winning via KO from the clinch in the 2nd round of a fight Yamaji was winning. If Yamaji can avoid Luatua's clinch game long enough to let one of his haymakers fly this could be a massive upset!
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I tried to explain earlier already on how this will not create more variety in fighter builds on long term. It would just be another search for the best build and then mass-production starts again. I am all in favor of different types of fighters, but this really doesn't seem the way for me to get there, as it won't work for long. Only at first there might be more different styles, but not for long.
There will be even less submission grapplers for one. Flexibility will be the physical everyone decreases to sacrifice subs, sub defense and kicks. We will end up with boxing tycoon.
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In my experience when a developer adds features/updates with the intention of fixing things the majority of their users didn't even have a problem with.....failure is the end result.
This isn't just true of software or games either. It has happened plenty of times with musical instruments and other hardware too.
I am not optimistic about the games' future. IMO it needs to be stripped down to it's essence. Lose the betting/bookmaker/wisdom of crowd bullshit, make training less of a chore and less exclusive and focus solely on the fighting and economy/business side of things. It's called MMA tycoon after all.
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Wein doesnt have much power, certainly not enough to trouble Perala so this was always going to come down to a decision. His attribute drop doesnt sound very significant, again, not enough to make him not competitive.
Of course he is competitive he is a former #1 WW, but competitive enough for me not be surprised when he completely shuts out Wilder Wein? Not based on recent performances IMO. After the Alvado KO losses he has looked like a different fighter and not in a good way.
Oh well if nothing else miraculous happens in the next 6-7 months I'll nominate him for upset of the year. If Perala loses his title quickly and Wein regains his status it would convince me even further.
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Man that sucks about EVO. I was sure he would have been granted a title shot, but was puzzled when I saw he was no longer signed. Hopefully Jergensen and Perala will meet again though. Would be a shame to have Perala fade away before a rematch.Fact is that there was no choice to resign to EVO, Jugg didnt want my guys
Perälä was best EVO 170 fighter at 2016. He has bad fights, but those couple lucky punch losses mean nothing.
Not sure did Perälä really start to decline at 30, but hes pysicals have dropped ~4 points in 4 weeks. He shouldnt be rotting that bad, because he had fight at last month, so maybe that aging changed something.
To the other people that think this wasn't an upset do you still feel that way after looking at my edited OP and seeing the fighter's manager say Perala may have already been declining prior to this?
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Not much of an upset at all. Pretty even match up. Maybe a slight edge to Wein but not much.
Really? His most recent fights didn't make me think he had much of a chance against a Syn two division champ and recent #1 p4p that was on a win streak which included a victory over Ricky Rocker.
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Taisto Perala just won every round against Wilder Wein. I was 100% sure Wein would take this one easily. After being knocked out twice by Pablo Alvado, Perala's last 4 fights prior to this have all been extremely close matches and it looked like his days of being a top WW were over. He didn't look especially good in close matches with a past prime Rustam Kershikov and Jack Jone and the draw with Moe Lester that followed seemed to confirm he was declining. The he surprised many with a narrow split decision over surging #5 WW Sven Jergensen.
I was looking forward to a rematch between the two, but Perala used the hype he gained from that win to negotiate a deal with Syn and earned this title shot for his debut. I'm sure Wein will look to avenge this loss and there will be a lot of other fighters gunning for a fighter that many will perceive as a weak champion in a premier organization. It will interesting too see how this plays out in the coming months.
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Aznar Thrul is in currently weighs in the 170s
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Is there gonna be one for lighter weight classes?
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What would you consider high counter mate, his IQ is over 120 too
I would consider 70% counter or above high
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He is cutting a lot of weight to make 170. This combined with possible low heart may make him more susceptible to being KOed too. If he is intelligent as you say then this could be a good reason to go high counter also. He will conserve more energy, get hit less and his high intelligence hidden combined with his really long reach for 170 will help him counter at a higher rate. You could still use the see how it goes slider too of course.
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I would of liked to see Wein vs Rocker III. 1-1 and the fights were super close. Would seem like an appropriate way to end the career.
Yea this should have been last one
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I hope he keeps it up so I can get a crack at him one day lol
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Yes he is a bit rediculous on the initial pay offered but that doesn't mean you can't negotiate with him.
Why would I negotiate with a guy that is sending contracts like that when GAMMA, Ascension, CEC and a host of other orgs send reasonable offers right off the bat?
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Every time I have a guy that is not signed this knuckle head offers a 3k/3k/3k contract to them. Like clock work. Doesn't matter where they are ranked. Is he hoping I hit the accept button by mistake? Sometimes he will send a pm asking me why I declined too. It's annoying and I never respond. I wish there was a "block org" feature that would prevent you from being contacted or offered anything from a staff member or owner of an org.
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Clarence Mcgee: I'm a little saddened by the fact that Ascension chose to put Ashton Eaton in the top 5 instead of me, who has he fought? I'm higher ranked and battle tested. It's ok though they will change their tune when I kick this bum's face into Row 12
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Damn Thrul choked hard looks like I needed that extra that he missed in week 1 due to being a sub after all
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He's done everything, almost every achievement possible has been achieved. Beating the crowd favourite twite in 2 weight classes will make him go down as a hof
So he is not an all time great unless he drops to 155 for the first time to face off with the guy he just finished in the first round?
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Can't believe he is rematching Cabrera at 155....
No need for a rematch IMO dude is 38 let them hunt you at 170 don't go chasing a guy you just beat at a new weight class
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Thrul can get in with a draw and Larry loss as he has the tiebreaker advantage
Upset watch
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You must have some strict criteria for what constitutes a big upset if this doesn't qualify. This is Yamaji's last shot at a title in a major org and he never would have gotten another chance in the first place if Ascension wasn't trying to fill a card on short notice with one of their stars.