Qrash Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 http://mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=204693 In my previous 144 fights I never had a draw. And to have my first draw be a majority draw, thats crazy. I don't think I've ever seen a majority draw, even in my org's 100 events. I'm sure they happen regularly, I've just never seen it. This was a fantastic fight. I think the 10-8 second round is a little controversial. Does anyone agree with a 10-8 in the 2nd round? Benoit was definitely dominated, but I can't give an 8 point round from a bunch of leg kicks, no cut and no knockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 Damn man. One of my guys has 2 draws and I think I have 4 total. Draws blow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 i have had 3 http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=141807 Majority Draw http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=188226 Majority Draw http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=100685 Draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j666 Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 2 in 162 fights... http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=55370 http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=123568 neither are a majority draw tho...just regular draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 how do u feel about the draw, Qrash? yay, nay, indifferent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j666 Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 the idea of a draw is tough for most americans to swallow/comprehend. generally speaking, we've all had the "there's always a winner and a loser" pummeled into our heads since birth. i feel this leads to most of the disdain for sports like hockey and soccer (due to regularity of a draw/tie) in the usa. most hockey and soccer fans are not bothered by it, some are but majority here in the usa have a big problem with it. a few years ago, the philadelphia eagles went to overtime with the bengals (nfl) and both teams failed to finish it and it was ruled a tie...they're not common by any means but most nfl fans can remember them happening from time to time. there was a HUGE uproar in the sports community over it and mcnabb (quarterback for the eagles) said publicly that he didn't even know an nfl game could end in a tie. it's blocked from our heads. it's a foreign concept here. i'm an nfl fan but i have watched more than enough hockey and soccer to understand the draw...but it wasn't all that easy to do. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 how do u feel about the draw, Qrash? yay, nay, indifferent? Personally? Yay. I was fully expecting to lose this in a landslide from the moment I accepted. This was a great fight. I can see why the second was a 10-8, though. This is the landing stats in this round (I just went over it. Just woke up, though, so I might be screwing things up, but it sounds about right). Landed shots: Benoit: 4 Gregorovitsj: 47, stuffed 3 TDs I'd say this warrants a 10-8 personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis84 Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 I've had no draws in all my 133 fights but I expect one will come along at some point just due to the law of averages, and I have only ever seen 1 majority draw and that was just one I stumbled accross when looking at an orgs card results which one of my guys was fighting on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 I had my first draw too, it was my 92nd fight. Not a 5 rounder though.. that is pretty crazy! http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=190236 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 I had my first draw too, it was my 92nd fight. Not a 5 rounder though.. that is pretty crazy! More likely in a 5 rounder, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 the idea of a draw is tough for most americans to swallow/comprehend. generally speaking, we've all had the "there's always a winner and a loser" pummeled into our heads since birth. i feel this leads to most of the disdain for sports like hockey and soccer (due to regularity of a draw/tie) in the usa. most hockey and soccer fans are not bothered by it, some are but majority here in the usa have a big problem with it. a few years ago, the philadelphia eagles went to overtime with the bengals (nfl) and both teams failed to finish it and it was ruled a tie...they're not common by any means but most nfl fans can remember them happening from time to time. there was a HUGE uproar in the sports community over it and mcnabb (quarterback for the eagles) said publicly that he didn't even know an nfl game could end in a tie. it's blocked from our heads. it's a foreign concept here. i'm an nfl fan but i have watched more than enough hockey and soccer to understand the draw...but it wasn't all that easy to do. lol There is no such thing as a tie in NHL hockey, anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 Had 1 draw in 155 fights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 I've had 3 draws in 240 fights.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 1 draw in 32 fight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 Took me 63 fights to get a draw - and still the only one I have had - Majority draw too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j666 Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 There is no such thing as a tie in NHL hockey, anymore. which is why i didn't say i'm an nhl fan i used to LOVE hockey but when they went on strike and then had the rule changes and then got no tv coverage...meh, kinda fell out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qrash Posted September 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Personally? Yay. I was fully expecting to lose this in a landslide from the moment I accepted. This was a great fight. I can see why the second was a 10-8, though. This is the landing stats in this round (I just went over it. Just woke up, though, so I might be screwing things up, but it sounds about right). Landed shots: Benoit: 4 Gregorovitsj: 47, stuffed 3 TDs I'd say this warrants a 10-8 personally. I'm not complaining. Benoit was losing that fight until the final 2 rounds. I'm happy to come out of it with a draw, honestly. But I still would not score the 2nd round 10-8. 35 of those 47 strikes were leg kicks, a couple more were body kicks. I counted 4 punches to the head and a couple to the body. No cut, no knockdown. A dominating round, no doubt. But I can't score a round an 8 without the threat of a knockdown at least. I could be wrong. I can't say its atrocious to score it 10-8, but I think it's a 10-9 round. I'd be interested to see what others think about that 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 I'm not complaining. Benoit was losing that fight until the final 2 rounds. I'm happy to come out of it with a draw, honestly. But I still would not score the 2nd round 10-8. 35 of those 47 strikes were leg kicks, a couple more were body kicks. I counted 4 punches to the head and a couple to the body. No cut, no knockdown. A dominating round, no doubt. But I can't score a round an 8 without the threat of a knockdown at least. I could be wrong. I can't say its atrocious to score it 10-8, but I think it's a 10-9 round. I'd be interested to see what others think about that 2nd round. Never said you were complaining. Just explaining why I think it's plausible for it to be scored 10-8. Yeah, it's definitely borderline, which is why we have a majority draw in the first place: one of the judges did score it 10-9. I'd like to see what people had to say, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 I'd be interested to see what others think about that 2nd round. After counting out that single round i think the 8-10 is ok. For Gregorovitsj we had: 9 headshots, 8 landed 4 bodyshots, 3 landed 15 bodykicks, 9 landed 33 legkicks, 22 landed 3 takedowns stuffed For Benoit 11 headshots, 2 landed 5 bodyshots, 1 landed 6 combos, 0 landed 1 legkick, 1 landed 3 failed takedowns so its 42 successful (14 failed) moves vs 4 successful (22 failed) moves. That round was absolutly dominated by Gregorovitsj, so i think 8-10 is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Personally? Yay. I was fully expecting to lose this in a landslide from the moment I accepted. This was a great fight. I can see why the second was a 10-8, though. This is the landing stats in this round (I just went over it. Just woke up, though, so I might be screwing things up, but it sounds about right). Landed shots: Benoit: 4 Gregorovitsj: 47, stuffed 3 TDs I'd say this warrants a 10-8 personally. 'Atta boy, Eirik! Way to mess up someone's draw-less record! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qrash Posted September 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Never said you were complaining. Just explaining why I think it's plausible for it to be scored 10-8. Yeah, it's definitely borderline, which is why we have a majority draw in the first place: one of the judges did score it 10-9. I'd like to see what people had to say, too. I never thought you accused me of complaining. That came out wrong. I was just saying that I guess I can understand the 10-8, but just don't agree with it. But seriously, I'm happy to have the draw in the end. It could have been a lot worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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