Liquid Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hello, One of my fighters had a chance to fight for the title. To cut the story short - my fighter lost. I feel I did some basic mistakes when it comes to forming a viable strategy for my fighter and would prefer not to make same mistake(s) again. I just can not pinpoint these mistakes so here I am asking for some help from more experienced managers. Was there something wrong with the strategy I made for my fighter (Yamato Damashii)? Which basic mistakes did I do? The Challenger - my fighter The Champ The Fight My strategy was for my fighter to get the fight to the ground and simply put GnP his opponent into TKO/submission. Would my fighter fail to achieve actual TKO/verbal submission, I expected his opponent to be too hurt and tired (no energy) to do anything anyway. I expected GnP to be weakness of current champion, for which reason I chose to use this particular strategy. Would I fail to achieve actual TKO my opponent would be too hurt (no energy) to do anything of real threat. According to statistics my fighter landed two of three takedown attempts and 21 of 30 ground strike attempts. When fight was stopped my fighter had roughly around 75% of his total energy left and his opponent had roughly 45% of his total energy left. Most of the action happened in round one. If I am not mistaken Yamato Damashii was on his way to winning the match and had pretty big advantage (energy etc.) when round two started. Yet despite this he found a way to lose quickly at start of round two or his opponent found a way to win despite getting beaten in round one- depends on point of view. Provided that my fighter did not lose his fight due to having bad luck with random number generator, which basic mistakes did I do when forming strategy for my fighter? What should I have done differently? Thanks in advance, JK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I can just guess here since I'm new to the game, but I can tell u that going for GnP on the ground when u don't have a clear BJJ advantage is pretty risky, brown belts have a lot of tricks in their bags. I tried to do something similar to your strategy recently, GnP a guy with lower wrestling but superior BJJ belt, and the result was the same as in your fight. Lost via submission. Also don't forget about the hiddens, ur opp might have heart and intelligence which helped him to come back when dominated on the ground. Could be much more than that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 If I am not mistaken Yamato Damashii was on his way to winning the match and had pretty big advantage (energy etc.) when round two started. Yet despite this he found a way to lose quickly at start of round two or his opponent found a way to win despite getting beaten in round one- depends on point of view. You actually had your answer right there. Submissions are the same as getting hit with a KO punch. If you get hit with a good one it doesn't mean your game plan was bad, just that the other guy had a good weapon and scored with it. Look at it in reverse, if your guy had KO'd his with a GnP strike would it be because of his bad game plan or because of your good game plan? The difference is purely in which attack managed to end the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Kicker Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 you could run that same fight 5 times in a row, with the same sliders on both fighters, and end up with 5 different results. chance plays a large part in fights, especially where the two fighters are pretty evenly matched. also keep in mind that great hiddens can totally make up for any weaknesses in a fighter. you could have a fighter with every skill maxed out at elite, and he'd still have trouble winning if he had horrible intelligence, or heart, or chin. you could have another fighter with everything only at superb, but if he's got elite intelligence/heart/chin/determination/etc he could still be a monster in the cage even against seemingly superior opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 What do you put on strike/improve position slider? I think if your fighter can move to a better position, the chance of getting subbed will be lower thus increasing your chance to win by wither a decision or a TKO, with a decision being the more likely option. Of course, that is an unlucky triangle in round 2, seeing that you just hit the ground and did nothing wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Thanks for the replies and help. The more I think about it I am starting to think Android17 is correct. Perhaps 5% or 10% more improve position would be better, safer and more efficient. It is a fine line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 It also happened to me man, don't worry! I mean, I was also very disappointed (pissed!), but it happens... The fight: http://mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=318186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 My blue belt fighter just beated a brown belt in his game. Though not the most exciting match I decided to counter his takedowns by taking him down. Put the slider more than 75-80 advance and 75% control and won by 30-26! I know LnP isnt popular but I rather win than loose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky67 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 i think you had the best gameplan , maybe the opponents had better bjj , or maybe it's the experience factor because ur fighter had only 7fights while ur opponents more than 25 ,if you have low DG (below remarkable ) train it until wonderful at least . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexiZaitev Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 the thing ive learned about the ground game is you want to advance more than you do anthing else so you can get into a better position where your moves will be most effective ie side control, mount, back mount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasman Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 My 5 cent's is this. Don't try to ground and pound a sub specialist, unless you have high Defensive grappling and are very very careful with your "Finish/Control" and "Strike/Advance" sliders when you are on top, in your opponents guard. Your opponent has 13 subs from 18 wins and had never been TKO'd,, ergo a VERY dangerous opponent to attempt any GnP on. Couple that with the fact James Lowich is a Gesundheit member, has been ranked 14th at one point in the game, has fought 363 times and is a top class manager. Nothing to be ashamed of at all, losing this fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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