Guest Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 http://www.mmatycoon...<br /><br />cage control. ur deciding where the (dictating) fight takes place. and effective grappling. thats kinda important in scoring. no punches no kicks no strikes landed by opponent. 2 of 60 takedown attempts by opponents. 1 punch and one advance position by me. not much so he definitely scored more with the successful attempts. cant argue that one. but idk if he deserved a victory in this one. http://oi44.tinypic.com/2l9gm7q.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzekelRAGE Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 probably shouldve posted this in the fight engine thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 ugly fight -- would say his aggressiveness (moving forward) probably had most to do with getting the decision -- you didnt make one offensive move just one counter punch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 60 takedown attempts damn...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CusDamato Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 I don't think stuffing takedowns scores in real life, same as you don't get points for blocking punches you get points for offense. Thats what i have always thought anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 He won the fight because of two takedowns. You landed 1 punch and 1 improved possition witch is not as good as 2 takedowns and the same would be in real life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystery Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 If I remember correctly when Jake Shields fought Martin Kampmann, I thought Kampmann was going to win that fight, because the main thing that seemed to be happening was Kampmann stuffing Shields takedowns over and over, but somehow Shields won, I guess it's because stuffed takedowns are not worth much in rl nor are they worth much in this game. When I seen that I knew Shields had no chance to beat GSP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 If you guys have not read the actual LAW that regulates the athletic comission and how the judges are to score competitions than your better off not giving people false ideas that they will repeat later. attempted takedowns SCORE because its aggression. the wording has changed over time into "effective aggression" in many different places of the documentation. But it skill scores as being overall agressive but does no longer score as effective grappling. however! cage control is scored to the defender who decided to keep the fight standing and controlled that while the person attempting the takedown could not control how the fight was continuing. the defender of the takedown ALSO scores with effective grappling every single time he stuffs a takedown. SO, in conclusion. being the over all more effective grappler for the entire fight repeatedly being in control of the cage (arguable since you are having your back to the cage sometimes IRL but if its shoot takedowns then you are controlling the cage). is much much more of a scoring factor then just being mindlessly aggressive and failing at it. I did take classes on being an MMA ref, and commission judge. also ive had enough mma fights to know how it scores. and the "but in vegas the judges did..." doesnt mean shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystery Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Edit: never mind, read your post wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CusDamato Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 If you guys have not read the actual LAW that regulates the athletic comission and how the judges are to score competitions than your better off not giving people false ideas that they will repeat later. attempted takedowns SCORE because its aggression. the wording has changed over time into "effective aggression" in many different places of the documentation. But it skill scores as being overall agressive but does no longer score as effective grappling. however! cage control is scored to the defender who decided to keep the fight standing and controlled that while the person attempting the takedown could not control how the fight was continuing. the defender of the takedown ALSO scores with effective grappling every single time he stuffs a takedown. SO, in conclusion. being the over all more effective grappler for the entire fight repeatedly being in control of the cage (arguable since you are having your back to the cage sometimes IRL but if its shoot takedowns then you are controlling the cage). is much much more of a scoring factor then just being mindlessly aggressive and failing at it. I did take classes on being an MMA ref, and commission judge. also ive had enough mma fights to know how it scores. and the "but in vegas the judges did..." doesnt mean shit. So you are saying a takedown attempt scores but the guy stuffing the attempt scores more? That sounds more like something that would happen in point style fighting or whatever you call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CusDamato Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 I also don't see how keeping a fight standing but still losing the stand up battle could win any fights either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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