KawasakiRamenBlitz Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Escapes must be MUCH easier if you are on top position, even if you have not-so-good escape skil.s. If you are in top half guard or side control, nothing can stop you from standing up in real life, even if you dont't train "escapes". Escapes must be really focused for guys on the bottom who want to kick of the top grappler and stand. While I agree with this from the real life angle, it would also definitely render the escape skill useless. Because then you would want to have a high transition skill to get on top to escape instead. Might as well get rid of the escape skill then... And people already seem to prefer to have high transition anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 I would also like to say, that my fighter, with 120strenght has lost from others with 30-40 just because of a submission! Isn't it unfair, having so much strenght and lose from a feeble guy? I think this should be changed, as submissions are far more easy to win by, and make it much easier for the one who has more strenght to escape the sub if there's a big gap between strenght. Currently a person with 1 strenght can beat another with 150, because of the subs wghich is unrealistic. Strenght is everything... from this comment I can take it you have never done any BJJ yourself. If I could remember how many times I've been subbed by smaller guys(or girls)... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Correct me if im wrong, but wasn't BJJ originally about being able to beat a bigger opponent by using leverage rather than pure strength? Exactly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 The damage depends not only on its strength. Speed, accuracy and technique of the blow, are set for a powerful blow. Note fights guys who could not use his punches and improved with time. Matt Serra is a great example. Has great knockout power in his right hand. But had little technique in boxing. After improving his punches, came to get some knockouts .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Jiu-jitsu: The greatest fighter always has the advantage. But knowing how to use the guard, a smaller fighter can "control" the heaviest fighter and tired it. With the tired opponent, a smaller fighter can improve their positions and even use their submissions to end the fight. There are times to use his strength. If used in any position, tire quickly. That the experience in BJJ teaches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 There's another difference. For those who have never trained Luta-Livre (FreeStyle Wrestling) and Jiu-Jitsu: The kimono (uniform worn in competition Jiu-Jitsu) lock your drive which helps to better control the opponent. Thus the technique is far more important than strength. Jiu-Jitsu: 80% technical - 20% strength Wrestling is different, the technique and strength are extremely important. I have just over three years of experience in Wrestling / Luta-Livre. I would say they are leveled so: Strength 50% - 50% Techniques http://www.metacafe.com/watch/10772359/ken_shamrock_vs_royce_gracie_ufc_5/ We can see the difference in the link. Ken Shamrock: 220lbs - Specialist in Wrestling strategy: Royce control over controlling positions without much movement and strike without being exposed to a sweep or submission. Hurting his opponent with his Ground and Pound gradually. Royce Gracie: 176lbs - Specialist in Jiu-Jitsu strategy: Tiring his opponent using his guard, using his sweeps and submissions to finish the fight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Did you just say wrestling and no gi grappling is 50% strength based? lmao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Did you just say wrestling and no gi grappling is 50% strength based? lmao And it took him 3 separate posts just to post wrong information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I beought this back as I wanted to add something, without creating another topic That would be strenght vs strenght-> -The higher your stength is u have more chances to punch through your oponents block, or cause more damage, while your opponent is blocking -You can stun your opponent more easily -You can injure your opponent more easily, so he would be less effective during your fight - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I beought this back as I wanted to add something, without creating another topic That would be strenght vs strenght-> -The higher your stength is u have more chances to punch through your oponents block, or cause more damage, while your opponent is blocking -You can stun your opponent more easily -You can injure your opponent more easily, so he would be less effective during your fight - I'm confused, all of those points already happen: 1. The higher your punch skill, the less likely your opponent will be able to defend with his striking defense 2. In order to rock your opponents, you need to land the punches, so it is just leads off from point #1 3. More efficient punches means more likely to open cuts, swellings etc. so it leads off from point #1 also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cegalacio Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Does strength affect KO power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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