dordanino5 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Hey...I was wondering if I take 16 yo from the FA market...I need to pay 90 days vip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 No you won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dordanino5 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Aww ok thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMould Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 bet he'll get bid on by a few now people have gained that knowledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duphus Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 if there is a 16 year old on the FA market, he either has completely crap hiddens or is extremely slow on learning unless it was a deleted manager or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dordanino5 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 So you say I shouldn't take 16 yo? And if not what age can I take (young) ? because I want to build him from zero... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 So you say I shouldn't take 16 yo? And if not what age can I take (young) ? because I want to build him from zero... Then create your own if you want to build from scatch. People on the FA list are either failed oroject fighters or old guys (usually) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dordanino5 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 How can I know in the FA if the fighter have slow learning or crap hiddens ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyJones Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 If the fighter doesn't have any fights there is no way to tell what his hiddens are really but if he's 16 and a FA its pretty safe to say that his previous manager tested his learning speed and it was crap. If you dont mind training up a slow learner you could get lucky and his other hiddens might be good. Â If they have a fight or two you can check the pbp to see if any hiddens came up in the tale of the tape. If his morale is low he probably has no confidence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dordanino5 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 What you think is a good hiddens to a fighter that just opened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 If a 16 year old is an FA its a no brainier, don't touch him. I've tried a few and sacked 3 and kept 1. Â I got lucky with 218050 he has just turned 20 he won a tourney at 17 beating 2 25year olds and a 19. Â He makes Jon Hess look feather fisted, and a number of Convicted managers have already noticed him and say he could be the next Jeremy Tonal. Time will tell because my boy is only 20, but Syn have already been on to me offering a fortune. Â He will defend his two org titles a good few times first. Â but he is the advert for a 16 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dordanino5 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 But what is a good hiddens for a fighter? 18yo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyJones Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Knockout power, granite chin, confident, big heart, intelligent, fast learner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dordanino5 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Ok thanks bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMould Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 If you look at the current ones, It's all from one or two guys, so in reality, the 16 year old could be decent, just this guy wants the ultimate learning speed. Â On a side note, Mikes probably loving it, seeing somebody create 8 16 year olds at 3 months VIP and then releasing them all early for a total of another three months xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duphus Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 The only reason to dump a 16 year old without fighting first is he most likely has very horrible learning speed as they can overcome slow learning with the added 2 years of the fastest learning years. He is probably like a 4.0 or lower learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyJones Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Yeah but if the sacking managers standards are super high then you could potentially still be able to land a decent learner with other great hiddens. Some guys might sack guys anywhere between 4-6 learning speed which would be perfectly acceptable to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nandorossi Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 The only reason to dump a 16 year old without fighting first is he most likely has very horrible learning speed as they can overcome slow learning with the added 2 years of the fastest learning years. He is probably like a 4.0 or lower learn my 16 yo is a 4.3 learner, but I have a private gym and he has one on one coaching AM and PM. I figured he was a keeper do to age and I dont know his hiddens yet. Would something so close to a 4.0 be worth keeping or am I just wasting my time even with the resources that I have at my disposal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duphus Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 he's gonna be behind on skill probably his whole life, under 5 is pretty slow for an 18 year old. I don't think the extra 2 years will make up for it. I figure about 1 point lower on leaning speed is probably about the break point on a 16 year old, meaning if you would not keep a 18 year old under 6.0 then you probably shouldn't keep and 16 year old at 5.0 Â I have a 6.9 learner 18 year old creation and a 16 year old 6.0 learner made around the same time (about 2.5K apart) and the 18 year old creation is still 50 points ahead. They are now 18.5 and 20.5 years old and both have only fought twice each 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nandorossi Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 thanks. I was planning on keeping him, but now I will throw him in a fight or two and then dump him. I want to see what his hiddens are just to see. I am now a sad panda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duphus Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 hiddens can overcome skill, but at that speed he will probably always be behind   I had a slow learner I picked up once, and just kept him for some reason and did nothing but train him  Think it took like a hundred sessions to get him to a high wonderful on punches, I tested him when he was around 19 when I got him and thinking he was 4.2 or something like that  Slow as hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nandorossi Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 alright well thanks again, and also way off topic but how is the health? The last time we talked you where going threw some rough stuff. I hope you are back to peak condition. My best goes out to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comte Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Hey...I was wondering if I take 16 yo from the FA market...I need to pay 90 days vip? Don't touch him he's mine. Â EDIT: EVIL LAUGH BWHAHAHA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ClarkKent Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 my 16 yo is a 4.3 learner, but I have a private gym and he has one on one coaching AM and PM. I figured he was a keeper do to age and I dont know his hiddens yet. Would something so close to a 4.0 be worth keeping or am I just wasting my time even with the resources that I have at my disposal? Dump his ass dude. I wouldn't even keep a 5.3 learner. His one saving grace is that he's 16 but I'd still drop him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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