Guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Not really sure how it would be implemented... maybe you'd have to check four boxes of styles out of a list to assign points to (or something). Judo --> more throws than bjj tkd --> specializes in kicks Sambo --> everyone loves fedor capoeira --> flexibility / agility boost / kicks ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthetop2 Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Believe the reason we've got only the 4 styles we have currently is because that pretty much covers every situation in a fight, although i would like to see genuine throws implemented instead of these "Sweeps"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Not really sure how it would be implemented... maybe you'd have to check four boxes of styles out of a list to assign points to (or something). Judo --> more throws than bjj tkd --> specializes in kicks Sambo --> everyone loves fedor capoeira --> flexibility / agility boost / kicks ... Judo - mike said he was considering it tkd - not really much difference than kickboxing/muay thai as far as mma is concerned, no one does any of those ridiculous flying, spinning kicks of doom in a real fight. sambo - i would like to see this instead of judo. Both are similar, but with sambo you have more emphasis on leg locks (something lacking in this game) and judo throws. capoeira - it is more of a ritualistic dance than fighting style. Either way it's extremely rare to see a guy do capoeira in mma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Judo - mike said he was considering it tkd - not really much difference than kickboxing/muay thai as far as mma is concerned, no one does any of those ridiculous flying, spinning kicks of doom in a real fight. sambo - i would like to see this instead of judo. Both are similar, but with sambo you have more emphasis on leg locks (something lacking in this game) and judo throws. capoeira - it is more of a ritualistic dance than fighting style. Either way it's extremely rare to see a guy do capoeira in mma. totally agree with that would like to see judo or sambo though maybye karate its coming back in abit obv stylised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Judo - mike said he was considering it tkd - not really much difference than kickboxing/muay thai as far as mma is concerned, no one does any of those ridiculous flying, spinning kicks of doom in a real fight. sambo - i would like to see this instead of judo. Both are similar, but with sambo you have more emphasis on leg locks (something lacking in this game) and judo throws. capoeira - it is more of a ritualistic dance than fighting style. Either way it's extremely rare to see a guy do capoeira in mma. tkd specializes solely on kicks. muaythai also has punches, knees, and elbows. i've seen capoeira based fighters in mma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 capoeira guys dont tend to do well though wich i used to hate people saying cos i love capoeira but it doesnt work that well and tkd doest work unless its heavilly modified most of the time but there are exceptions to all of these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 capoeira guys dont tend to do well though wich i used to hate people saying cos i love capoeira but it doesnt work that well and tkd doest work unless its heavilly modified most of the time but there are exceptions to all of these the style itself is not that important, it's what the athlete can do with it. i'm not a huge fan of tkd, but i can see the usefullness of the style to perfect your kicks/agility capoeira can be very effective, because the strikes come from unexpected angles. if used correctly, you can really surprise your opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutemi Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I do think that the current styles cover everything nicely, like overthetop2 already mentioned. With specific skills you can tweak it well enough. If there should be a 5th style, I'd love to see Freestyle. This could simply cover improvisation in fighting. There are lot of things in MMA that don't fit to any art at all, such as jumping over an open guard, striking with the corner of the glove to cut, using cage, pulling gi over ones head etc. It could go like this: Freestyle - Determines the unpredictability of your fighter and improvisation. Affects fighters popularity and situations where fighter can't or won't follow your orders. Freestyle can sometimes be more of problem than benefit and freestyling does spend a lot of energy if not done right. I don't know if this is really practical, but I just wanted to bring this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 the style itself is not that important, it's what the athlete can do with it. i'm not a huge fan of tkd, but i can see the usefullness of the style to perfect your kicks/agility capoeira can be very effective, because the strikes come from unexpected angles. if used correctly, you can really surprise your opponent. a capoeira guy would get destroyed by anyone capable of clinching or grappling. Only time capoeira has had success was against real bad fighters with no grappling ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 how would he do it though? how do existing fighters get points for it? As well he would have to redo the whole fight simulator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 capoeira --> flexibility / agility boost / kicks By far the best one Soccer --> Large kick bonus / Major penalty to strength and jaw Ballet --> flexibility / agility / balance NFL --> pure Bob Sapp all-roundness This subject has been brought up many times. We always have to conclude that there's no need for new styles. In my opinion it would make the game needlessly complex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 By far the best one Soccer --> Large kick bonus / Major penalty to strength and jaw Ballet --> flexibility / agility / balance NFL --> pure Bob Sapp all-roundness Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 By far the best one Soccer --> Large kick bonus / Major penalty to strength and jaw Ballet --> flexibility / agility / balance NFL --> pure Bob Sapp all-roundness This subject has been brought up many times. We always have to conclude that there's no need for new styles. In my opinion it would make the game needlessly complex. ok ok point taken just a random thought on a lazy sunday anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myllys Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Capoeira or TKD you can do for 20 years and you will get smashed by someone who trains in MMA for 6 months... Judo is not that bad, but if you compare judo and wrestling as a base, its a no brainer what is better, judo is basically about getting your opponent to the ground using his Gi, in MMA you have no Gi, you can modify those techniques...and basically get moves that are used in wrestling anyway :-P ... And sambo ? It is basically combination of judo and wrestling with leglocks... I think its all covered in those 3 skill departments.... If I would maybe appreciate change in a game, it would be much more detailed tactics. For example against taller guy to throw jab to his chest first and then come with the overhand right and finish with right left kick, against southpaw start with straight right, follow with the left hook and then circle to the left..... those are the things I love in real live, unfornutely my boys are bunch of agressive morons that never execute my gameplan. So at least I would love to enjoy someone executing my genious gameplans at least in the computer game :lo: Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Capoeira or TKD you can do for 20 years and you will get smashed by someone who trains in MMA for 6 months... Judo is not that bad, but if you compare judo and wrestling as a base, its a no brainer what is better, judo is basically about getting your opponent to the ground using his Gi, in MMA you have no Gi, you can modify those techniques...and basically get moves that are used in wrestling anyway :-P ... And sambo ? It is basically combination of judo and wrestling with leglocks... I think its all covered in those 3 skill departments.... If I would maybe appreciate change in a game, it would be much more detailed tactics. For example against taller guy to throw jab to his chest first and then come with the overhand right and finish with right left kick, against southpaw start with straight right, follow with the left hook and then circle to the left..... those are the things I love in real live, unfornutely my boys are bunch of agressive morons that never execute my gameplan. So at least I would love to enjoy someone executing my genious gameplans at least in the computer game :lo: Peace You are wise beyond your post count grasshoppa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepis Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I'm still waiting for drunk fu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHU Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I think the 4 style we have now cover most of the aspects of fighting as stated above.. Although an arguement for Judo can be made for throws instead of takedowns... But maybe instead of adding TKD or anything else the fight commentary can reflect that in a way. I don't know how it would be implemented, but maybe a check box could be made that would allow the fight engine to run certain scripts that pertain to a specialized style (e.g. a TKD kick) for that fighter.. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgp5013 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 What we have is fine. There is no need for a fuckin TKD fighter. I mean what TKD fighter has had real success in the MMA world? Guys might start as a TKD BB but as soon as they get their ass handed to them by a boxer or MT specialist, they amend their training. If you want a judoka, jack up your fighter's strength and utilize TDs from the clinch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgp5013 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I should add that I feel leg locks need to be implemented. I forget who said it but a BJJ fighter once said that 40% of submissions are from the waist down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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