heinen Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Hmm, Those org managers that gave him the fights are not very good at their job too. If everyone would work as they are supposed too, he would have 3, 4 fights. And he would have the exact ranking he deserved. Somewhere in the back. Just show every org owner he signs on this thread. In the end he will leave the game anyway. People who are afraid of defeat always do that once they can't win anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchman817 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 guy sounds like a douchebag... I have never turned down a fight ( although there were one or two I probably should have in retrospect...) and now I feel that ive built a good working relationship with a lot of org owners because of it... you signed up to fight, as long as its not unreasonably soon after the last fight, you should fight whoever they put in front of you. (unless of course, you have an amped fighter with a good record, and you dont want to risk the massive pop/hype drop that could come from losing to a 0-0, 1-0 guy...but that would just be poor matchmaking.) you fullfill your part of the bargain, and MOST org owners will take care of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I'd like to hear the "chicken shit manager's" point of view on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfire200 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 He has never made a single post in the forums, so i doubt you will see him step up and address the issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setsuna Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Since I posted this message, Joel Nicola has stated countless times that he would like to fight top competition only when he is "ready". There was an incident on chat yesterday where me and him were on at the same time and were talking about this message. He claims I never offered him fair fights, and was trying to set his guy up for a loss. I countered that I've never offered him an unfair fight, and if anything, he's the only guy I've ever offered an unfair fight on behalf of. What started as constructive criticism ( people telling him he needs to be willing to step up in competition ), escalated into something more personal. He seems like he really wants to continue playing the game, and he says he's going to step up his competition. I've just signed his fighter Riku Ogawa up for a fight against Camrom Crawford ( 6-5 ), who's a type of gatekeeper in Choke. It's still not quite the step up in competition I'd like to see, but it's a small step in the right direction. Let's wait and see what he does after this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Im currently on a streak of losing 6 of my last 7 fights. I keep asking myself why I accept these difficult fights. But reading this makes me feel a little better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfire200 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Since I posted this message, Joel Nicola has stated countless times that he would like to fight top competition only when he is "ready". There was an incident on chat yesterday where me and him were on at the same time and were talking about this message. He claims I never offered him fair fights, and was trying to set his guy up for a loss. I countered that I've never offered him an unfair fight, and if anything, he's the only guy I've ever offered an unfair fight on behalf of. What started as constructive criticism ( people telling him he needs to be willing to step up in competition ), escalated into something more personal. He seems like he really wants to continue playing the game, and he says he's going to step up his competition. I've just signed his fighter Riku Ogawa up for a fight against Camrom Crawford ( 6-5 ), who's a type of gatekeeper in Choke. It's still not quite the step up in competition I'd like to see, but it's a small step in the right direction. Let's wait and see what he does after this one... He has had 50 fights as a manager, how can a manager not be ready? I think people do not mind doing some constructive criticism but he was doing the same thing in 3 different organizations, and the combined record of all his opponents was around a 33% win ratio. He complains about unfair fights, how about his opponents... It good to see he actually signed to fight against Crawford(although still fits the mold of a blue belt). But at least he did not decline the fight. The question is how he handles himself in PFL and MGL....he could just appease you hoping it just goes away and still could be a pain in the butt for the other orgs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Here's his first email issuing the challenge: " Hi mate, was wondering if you could organize the organize either of the following opponents for my fighter Riku Ogawa at 145 lbs Vitor Rua Keizo Sawaki Hajime Susumu Thankyou and God Bless" Here's his explanation when asked why he turned down the fight: "Hi mate, sorry about that i had made a mistake about calling out Hajime Susumu. Was wondering if you could organize the organize either of the following opponents for my fighter Riku Ogawa at 145 lbs. I wont decline anymore fights. Im very sorry for the inconvenience inconvenience, and hope you can forgive me. That's quite the stutter stutter he's got going on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Well, hopefully your post here sets this guy straight. He should be emberassed by his tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Im currently on a streak of losing 6 of my last 7 fights. I keep asking myself why I accept these difficult fights. But reading this makes me feel a little better Because you lack heart and loyalty!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 wow, he finally steps up, and takes on a 6-5 fighter, the man has some balls I tell ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Because you lack heart and loyalty!!! I can put up with these silly posts in topics like this one, but if you could keep my company thread free of it, that would be good thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutz Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 The question is how he handles himself in PFL and MGL....he could just appease you hoping it just goes away and still could be a pain in the butt for the other orgs. Lalli Koylio (8-1) would love to fight either his 4-0 fighters (Yoshi Yamagushi or Hiro Miyagi) in PFL. Unfortunatly they are not ready for that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Nicola Joel, more like. "Girlie man loser" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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