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read this: (this is straight out of mike tycoons mouth) Just a note to say that I'm getting too many requests to deal with stuff which is minor and unimportant. Reqests to deal with contract issues, free agents' new managers not wanting to fight etc etc. So please, if you're having problems but it's nothing to do with the game programming, so nothing has gone wrong with the game, please resolve it without contracting me or just work through it. Imagine this is a game you bought from the shop and I don't exist - sometimes things happen which are a pain to deal with but you can't ring up EA Sports and ask them to help. Anyway, from now on I'm just ignoring requests for stuff which isn't an actual problem with the game. Writing replies to messags is easily the most mentally draining part of running the site. Often it takes as much time to reply with "that's really not something that I should be dealing with etc" and justifying that decision, so now I'll just be ignoring unimportant stuff to preserve the enthusiasm I have for improving the site. Thanks for your understanding im pretty certain that mike says that if it's not a programming issue then you need to just work through it. a real life person forgetting to fly their fighter for a fight isnt a programming issue. its a contract issue i'd say the reason why he fixes most ppl's problems still, is because he doesnt want to piss ppl off. although he's obviously yearning to not have to do it anymore. at least that's how i take his remarks anyways

Seeing how much the results can change between the same fighters between two fights in this game mmamath is even worse than in rl Any result in that chain could have been the unlikely outcome. Without the support of other results a one off fight doesn't really prove one guy is better.

When did I ever say "Jesse Bongfeldt is better"? I was just proving that your attempts at using MMAth or fighter records to prove a point was absurd.

Jesse Bongfeldt is 15-4-1

Anderson Silva lost to Ryo Chonan. Ryo Chonan lost to TJ Grant. TJ Grant lost to Jesse Bongfeldt.

Most KO's are TKO's or at least multiple shot KO's. Chuck's chin is not what it used to be thanks to all those years of his style of "I hit you and you hit me until one of us falls down" style of fighting. Chuck was a beast, but if he kept it up for much longer bad things were going to happen.

he has no feelings

The video will be epic , like this event , like this org .

Well, see, I'm not so sure it is that, and that's why I found this so intriguing when I originally posted (and what one of my earlier posts mentions). If the guys were fighting, yes, you are correct, its manslaughter. If the guy was attacked, and could somehow prove that he felt his life was threatened, according to what I understand of NJ state law (and while I live here, I'm no lawyer), the guy was within his rights and needs not worry about anything. If, however, (and what isn't being speculated enough, IMO) the guy had some sort of martial arts training, he should have known the devestating effects of the choke, and then I would think he could be tried for murder. Another thing that isn't being mentioned enough in this discussion, IMO, is that this story is all very one-sided. Montalvo KOd one guy - who obviously was incapable of reciting details of the event - and choked the other to vegetation/death, so this might have gone down completely differently than what we are told. Its really fascinating, and I don't think its cut-and-dry one way or another.

Yeah, I was reading this thread waiting for someone to point that out to Grasman. The kid who died jumped out of the bushes onto the guy's back while saying, "Come on, <blank>!". Now, if you're trying to argue self-defense over the kid who died, its a sin to ignore the fact that, yes, while the "killer" ran after him, the kid still jumped and attacked him - not the other way around. The part ignored: The reason I originally posted this is because those two sentences alone are what the argument hinges on - is being attacked, as the killer was by the deceased, enough to claim self-defense, and is holding a choke for that long going overboard? Not nearly as cut and dry as some imply.

Not according to the victim of the theft. After knocking out one of the thieves, the other one attacked him. At that point, he was definitely being threatened.

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Oh right, I thought it was a softer look, more like Le Tigre...

http://video.ufc.tv/FFTT/Photos/FFTT_EventPhotos/09_Hominick_Roop/13_Hominick_Roop.jpgIf Hollywood made a movie about Team Tompkins, the London, Ontario fight team consisting of Mark Hominick, Sam Stout, and Chris Horodecki, producers would have some of the richest characters in all of mixed martial arts to cast in their film. The handsome and brooding Stout, with his piercing blue eyes and chiseled features, would be played by Star Trek’s Chris Pine. Horodecki, the former IFL and WEC star with a puckish sense of humor and a stand-and-bang fight style, would go to The Social Network’s Justin Timberlake. And while the platinum blonde coach Shawn Tompkins (he’d play himself in the film, naturally) is the de facto team leader, number one featherweight contender Mark Hominick’s character would need a special kind of actor to portray the range and depth the real life man has in his personality. A University of Windsor graduate with a degree in Commerce who started training in martial arts in ninth grade, Hominick would need to be portrayed by an actor who not only kicks ass – after all, he hasn’t lost in three years – but someone who is convincing as a thinking man who never buckles under the pressure of the moment. Matt Damon of the Jason Bourne series would likely get the nod. “Matt Damon is definitely cool. The Bourne Ultimatum and all of those films definitely made him a lot tougher. I can live with that,†he says, agreeing that Tompkins would play himself. “Nobody but Shawn could play Shawn.†And while a typical Hollywood movie would produce some kind of fantastic ending pitting the protagonist against his toughest challenge in a champion like Jose Aldo, in front of a record setting hometown crowd of 55,000 screaming Canadians – the reality is just as amazing. Not only will he have the fight of his life against the best featherweight in the world in front of a record audience in his home country of Canada, but his wife Ashley is due to give birth to the couple’s first child, a daughter they will name Raeya, just five days after the fight. In the champion Aldo (18-1), the ten-year MMA veteran faces a Brazilian who not only hails from the opposite side of the world, but who also comes from the opposite side of the tracks. “Jose has had to overcome many difficulties in his life. Sleeping in the gym, he’s had to fight a lot harder for things in life than I have for sure. I’m fortunate that I am from Canada, where we enjoy certain privileges, but that doesn’t mean I’m not as mentally tough as he is,†says Hominick, who grew up amidst the brutally cold Ontario winters, a stark contrast to the sun and heat of Manaus, Brazil --- from where his opponent hails. A Brazilian jiu-jitsu world champion with excellent striking and devastating Muay Thai leg kicks, Aldo is number three in most pound-for-pound rankings, behind teammate Anderson Silva and Canadian Georges St-Pierre. Hominick agrees with that distinction. “What makes him so dangerous and pound-for-pound one of the best is that he can finish guys from anywhere,†says Hominick. “On the feet, in the clinch and on the ground, he’s so well rounded that preparing for him in this fight camp has been a lot of fun. Because he’s so dangerous everywhere, we brought in a lot of guys who are great in different areas.†Hominick, for his part, however, is no slouch. A former ISKA super welterweight kickboxing champion, “The Machine†has finished 16 opponents by knockout or submission, including the likes of George Roop, Yves Edwards and Yves Jabouin, and he’s currently enjoying a five fight win streak. “I don’t think he’s seen anybody with my hand speed and footwork,†says Mark. “I think I’m the one question mark for who he’s been able to take out so far. It’s going to be interesting to see how he meets the challenges I will pose to him on fight night.†For Team Tompkins, fight camp is usually in Las Vegas at the TapouT Training Center. However with a pregnant wife and a fight just one hour away from the Adrenaline Training Center, a gym he co-owns with Stout and Horodecki, Mark stayed north of the border and brought fighters and trainers to him this time. “There’s no jetlag and no travel time so that’s an added bonus come fight day,†he said. “Shawn and BJJ coach Keebo Robinson came up to London and Sam and Chris are here. 155-pounder Jorge Brito is a BJJ black belt and he’s been working with me. I have a lot of great national team wrestlers who’ve been in and I’ve been boxing with some Olympic boxers, working on my footwork and my clinch game.†And while most fighters training for a championship fight are focused on getting the belt, Hominick says having a pregnant wife during this camp has kept things in perspective for him. “It’s been overwhelming, everything’s happening all at once,†he said. “We are trying to enjoy the ride and take things one day at a time. There will never be another time like this in our lives. Fighting for the title and giving birth to our first child, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. It’s going to come and go but we’re trying to enjoy it all. There are days when Ashley is really stressed but we’re trying to make it all work. Yesterday I did nine rounds of sparring, left the gym and went straight to Lamaze class. Those are the types of days we’ve been having.†For Hominick, everything that has happened during the course of his decade long career – training, wins, losses, travel, coaching and running his gym – has been preparation for April 30. “I believe it’s my destiny,†he says. “It’s a huge opportunity. This is my tenth year as a pro, and to fight in my home province on the biggest card of all time, a baby on the way, I’ve been training for this for fifteen years. My whole fighting life has been in preparation for this one moment. I really do believe everything happens for a reason, and you’re right, Hollywood couldn’t have scripted it any better for me.†Hominick started competing in martial arts just two weeks after signing up for his first class. It was a ninth grade gym class field trip to a London, Ontario martial arts school that changed the course of his life forever, something that his mother and late father weren’t too keen on. “They were really never into me being a fighter,†he said. “They are not fight fans. My mom’s first question to me after every fight is ‘Are you retiring now?’ My father was a great athlete, but he and my mom wanted me to go the business route. That’s why I have a degree from business school. But now my mom’s pretty into it. She’s very supportive, especially when she’s got co-workers who want autographs (Laughs).†Hominick’s father succumbed to cancer four years ago. He says that while many fighters fight through adversity to get to the top of the fight game, nothing really compares to seeing someone suffer through chemotherapy. “We lost my dad and my wife’s mom within six months of each other, and they were going through cancer treatment at the same time, so it was a really difficult time, seeing them go through all the treatment and fight so hard, but to see those people battling cancer it’s an awful thing to see anyone go through, let alone someone you love,†he said. “He’d be proud, but fighting wasn’t something we shared. He didn’t really understand the mindset of fighting, but he’d support me in his way. He’d come to my fights but he’d leave right after.†These days Mark’s world is consumed with mixed martial arts. He trains full time, he watches fights as much as possible, reads the industry sites and magazines and tries to stay as healthy as he can. He believes that having a close team in Shawn, Sam and Chris is part of the reason he’s been in the fight game for so long and is in the position now to fight for the title. “Shawn was the best man in my wedding,†he said of ‘The Coach.’ “Sam, Chris and I were all groomsmen in his wedding to Sam’s sister Emilie. We are all very close, like brothers, and that’s really important. I think that’s what separates us from a lot of other fighters, especially recently, as you see people gym-jumping. We’ve been the same crew for twelve years and there’s a certain bond we have with each other. There are things I can’t do without them. And it’s really because of Shawn. He’s always led the way and been the one that brought the passion out of all of us. He leads by example.†For Hominick, coming in to this fight as a huge underdog doesn’t mean he’s not feeling the pressure of the moment. He says that as soon as the fight was announced to take place in his home province, not a day has gone by without reporters calling or dropping by the gym, but he says he’s relishing the moment. “You know guys can’t just show up in Georges St-Pierre or Jake Shields’ gyms,†he says. “But since I’m only an hour away from the venue a lot of the buzz that this card has brought to the area has led a lot of the sports reporters to me, which is great. My life changed overnight on January 22 as far as me being kind of a face of MMA in the area. So a lot of the attention of the show is coming my way. I’m fighting for the belt, co-main event on the first UFC card in Ontario, so I have an obligation to do as much as I can to help promote not only my fight, but the sport in general up here.†As the UFC continues to grow and mixed martial arts becomes more and more accepted in the world of professional combat sports, it’s not such a stretch that Hollywood would do the Mark Hominick story. After all, most movies are shot in Toronto anyway. Like the fight on April 30, it would be an easy commute. View the full article

One would think that.

I wouldn't even do that. I'd ring him up two weeks later and ask if it was running ok...

Shouldn't Led call out Jonas Justice before he jumps to Jigoro Kane?

This wasnt a real fight just a demonstration. The knee was faked and the guy flipped like it landed. Thats why they went so slow and danced most of the time. Still pretty neat demo though.

I know this has become commonplace, but I honestly feel the "Skills Snapshot" page and the other skill bars are the worst improvement for game longevity that Mike has implemented. There's a reason he initially utilized descriptive names instead of numbers for the skills. It was to limit the amount of "real info" the manager has access to. The skills aren't meant to be known to the 3rd decimal point. The closest you should be able to get is the 2.5 point window given to you by the Assistant.

Now, we're talking! I've been a proponent of this for a long, long time - and there are numerous threads like this where you can search and see the discussion. Obviously, being a game, we can't be totally realistic - if a fighter doesn't show up, we can't have org owners picking a replacement fighter at the last second; however, if a fighter were to miss weight, instead of a NC, the fight should take place at a catchweight with a fine imposed on the offending fighter, or if the fighter doesn't arrive on schedule, the org owner pays the cost for a one way flight and the offending fighter gets fined and loses energy/morale, etc. Don't get me wrong - I agree Mike shouldn't be bothered with these minor issues, but I also don't believe its acceptable to tell org owners to "deal with it".

It sucks when stuff is out of your control, but such is life. I just don't know why Mike should waste his time fixing it.

There is only one way to settle this. It looks like we are in need of a walk off. But, who is going to call this sucker? http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab102/KenricMMA/WalkOff.jpg "If nobody has any objections, I think I might be of service. Now, let's be a straight walk off. Old school rules. First model walks. Second model duplicates then elaborates. OK, boys. Let's go to work." http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab102/KenricMMA/WalkOff2.jpg Age before beauty, goat cheese.

"stoner" theories are great

I noticed that contracts always come withe the 'Exclusive' tickbox checked and as far as I'm aware all contracts are exclusive at the moment, other than allowing fighters to do QFC's. I just wondered if there was any plan in the future to make contracts non exclusive, might make it a little easier for people wishing to set up super fights or people who want to test the waters of an org without being soley tied down to them.

It looks like a great idea. I was also thinking if some mixed formulas could be allowed, like a contract which grants exclusive, but only for one geographic area. for example you could sign a contract in Vegas which prevents you from fighting for other Vegas Org, but you could stil sign in NY or Europe

Just a snippet from the MMA Tycoon IRC Chat Room. Something I have seen a few times and it really annoys me. As an org owner you have a certain responsibility to ensure fighters are in the city at the time of the event etc. If you find yourself have constant NC's then maybe you need to realise that you shouldn't be signing fighters who ain't based in your orgs city. Yes you should be penalised, this is a Tycoon Management game, not a "I'm going to message Mike because a fighter doesn't want to travel to my city" game. At the end of the day, we need orgs to be hit with NC's to allow other orgs to grow as well. If your business decisions are failing you due to the fighters not turning up, then that is life.

Know what is missing there? Any mentions of fixing NC's. Pretty obviously he is not placing them in the same category or he wouldn't be responding at all let alone fixing this. Pasting that means nothing because Mike's actions are speaking a ton louder than those words. If he didn't want to be fixing these, he would not be fixing them. He is fixing them, it is his time, his decision, and his game. The alternative would be to have even more automagic enforcement mechanisms programmed into the game to prevent managers from NC'ing. I am not against that necessarily (it would be pretty complex though) but he has pretty clearly chosen to manually fix NCs for the time being. If he didn't want to, his response (or rather the lack of one) as spelled out above would stop owners from asking him to fix them. To speculate about why he might doing that well, I think he intends the game to be about orgs that span cities and not to allow the threat of unpreventable NCs to keep orgs completely provincial. Lost amongst all the sanctimony about "only sign people in your home city!" is the fact that a fighter can move out of a city or fly to another one to train at any bloody time after signing. The org owner currently has no mechanism to prevent that or even punish those who NC due to stupidity, inattention, or because they have left the game. Preventing retarded NC's from gutting an org's big event when they have zero recourse to fix it on their own is good for the game, not bad for it.

There's no reason to go boasting on the internet that your friend stabbed someone. It's not something to be proud of so maybe you'd better keep things like this for yourself next time.

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Chuck needed a change in his training and someone who will tell him not to over commit and get himself ko'd and not Dana White to save him. Chuck is still good enough to beat most if not all guys in the ufc, and i'm not even a big fan. Easily ko'd? Sure, but most other fighters tend to get ko'd when you punch them on the jaw.

This wasn't a case of robbery, it was a case of attempted theft/car burglary, where the thieves fled and got hunted down. He then attacks the thieves, ko'ing one of them, choking out the other. He is clearly the attacker in this case, so in this case he was endangering the teenagers life, and one could argue it was them whom were in self defense, not the other way around. So, basically, you want the youngsters to be held responsible for their actions ( a mini crime ), but not the attacker, who's attack resulted in one unconscious and one dead,( a serious crime) while nothing happened to the attacker, he got away scot free and lost nothing. Even though he initiated the contact and used force way out of proportions, leading to death, because of a frigging wallet and a watch. Can you see the failure in your logic? By this same logic, the dead teens father, brother, uncle, friend, son etc.. are fully justified in killing the car owner, and not be punished for it.

Again,, this wasn't a robbery, there is a big difference between theft and a robbery. The owner of the car was in no way threatened by the teenagers, as it was him who chased after them, and physically attacked them. By definition, they were acting in self defense, since they were being attacked. The attacker is successful in neutralizing both of his victims, by use of major physical force, leading to physical death of one of the victims of the attack. The car owner was a victim of a minor crime, he then travels over large distance, creates a situation of great danger for himself and his (by now) victims, killing one of them, unintentionally or intentionally. You don't correct a little wrong with a big wrong, two wrongs don't make a right. In this case all involved are both perpetrators and victims. The car owner was a small victim, but a big perpetrator, and the other way around for the teens. It is just a case of "the teens started it". IMO The car owner should be charged for an attack that lead to (possibly unintentional) manslaughter, but not to push for the maximum sentence. I can't see any justification for anything less.

Ur right Justice is better , and Jesse Bongfeldt is better :suicide_anim: :suicide_anim: