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Since both fighters are from the same manager I would say no. YOU LOSE!! My last fight. Has proficient strength and about 65/35 in favour of damage. 36 knees to the face...but no cuts! Must've been wearing kneepads. Other guy didn't even get one shot in.

Quick Update: Abner Grayson took his title fight by TKO in 34 seconds. He's 5-0, and the LW champ of Ground Zero in NY. Really don't understand why he's unsponsorable. Manager Profile

I have several fighters without sponsors, never even been offered sponsorships: St. Petersburg: Petr Petrovich (6-3) [6977] London: Hank Hornsby (7-1, #1 LHW in London) [7011] Has a nutrition sponsorship. Helsinki: Gunnar Edvard (4-0, 4 KOs, HW Champ of the HFC) [16778] New York: Baz Baldwin (4-2, 3 KOs) [16790] Abner Grayson (4-0, championship fight coming up) [16816] James Bee (4-1, 3 KOs) [21971] Optimus Prime (4-1, 4 KOs) [21973] Montreal: Pat Marr (3-1) [16925] Manager Profile

Hey all, After my latest fight, I wondered, "What's the most someone's just mutilated their opponent and not finished them?" I don't think mine's competitive, but 4/4 takedowns and 47 Ground Strikes later (a good portion from full mount), I've gotta wonder what the guy looked like that he could stay in all three rounds. Anybody got some amusing links to this effect?

I WANT KAMPA! He won't sub spam me again.

"The bell rings for round one and we are underway! Decent striking displayed by Bee there. Bee tries a head kick but it misses. Grey moves out of range of the body kick. Bee cracks Grey with a big right hand that sends him to the floor! Grey looks wobbly but he's sprung back up to his feet straight away… can Bee finish him? Grey is rocked! It looks like John Grey has been cut. John Grey seems to be the more aggressive standup fighter in this bout." Sure seems that way!

I'm sure this is one of the most tired post subjects by this point, but for those interested: My Most Recent Fight (James Bee) This is the opening of the fight: The bell rings for round one and we are underway! Decent striking displayed by Bee there. Bee tries a head kick but it misses. Grey moves out of range of the body kick. Bee cracks Grey with a big right hand that sends him to the floor! Grey looks wobbly but he's sprung back up to his feet straight away… can Bee finish him? Grey is rocked! It looks like John Grey has been cut. John Grey seems to be the more aggressive standup fighter in this bout. Grey shoots in with a takedown attempt and he has Bee pinned against the cage. Bee gets the underhooks and manages to circle away. Grey is still on wobbly legs! Can Bee finish him? Bee lands a really nice looking cross but Grey seems unphased. Hell of an aggressive fighter, that John Grey! I later kneed him in the face 4 times and the body twice in a Thai clinch, and rocked him with the first punch after another ref. standup. I dunno, but in my opinion, when a fighter is on wobbly legs and about to be finished, frustrating to read that a nice cross to the dome does nothing. And, of course, the fight ends in him finally getting a takedown (after I had stuffed a solid handful of attempts and gassed him); two sub attempts and it's over. Yeah yeah, "oh just knock out the BJJ brown belts, that's what I do!" Easy to say, harder to do when you're depending on the random dice rolls. I have my standup sliders set pretty aggressively.

you're not a good comparison

Glad to see that GnP got a fix; I just made a guy spec'ed for it And yeah, although the P4P Top Ranked fighters all seem to show the Submission trend, the percentages are different when you take a look at the top-ranked Managers. It just looks like, at the time being, people think it's a "safer" way of winning, and I was worried that all high-ranked or belt matches were going to invariably turn into sub-fests. Hooray! Thanks for the response(s).

I'm sure there's more to it than the %'s suggest, i.e. the recent Tycoon event (http://www.mmatycoon.com/orgeventpublic.php?EvID=9557) that was pretty even as far as KO's and Submissions. Whether the percentages are skewed by fighters winning by submission Early in their careers against white belts is an interesting question. After all, #1 YB Sol started with 5 submissions, and since then he's switched off between TKO's and Decisions for the last 5. However, #2 Satomi has won his last 6 matches by Submission, #3 Mendez his last 7 by Submission, #5 Barayev his last 7 by Submission... so it's not all in the beginning of a career. "There could be an advantage at being a BJJ fighter, but seeing those percentages is not evidence of such. It is simply evidence that more wins have come by way of submission as opposed to KO." That's my bottom line. I don't know if it's just the ebb and flow of managerial styles, and if a Boxer who is 10-0 with 10 KO's knocks out YB Sol in 5 seconds, I'm sure a bunch of wannabe managers will create 8 new punch-centric Boxers, but it's just the simple fact that it's occurring in such a drastic majority that raises the question. Indeed, any official or informed response from the Admins or anyone who's talked about it at length before, and looked into the issue more completely than I have, would be great.

This is a sort of two-pronged post. First, I know that Ranking is affected not just by your number of wins but who you beat and what they're ranked. But is rank affected at all by HOW you win matches? After this last weekend, I took a look at the Top 10 for Light Heavyweight, and the #5 contender is 4-0 with 2 KO's and 2 Subs, never winning in under 2 minutes. #8 is 7-3 with 5 Subs and 2 Decisions, and has been KO'ed in a minute and Submitted twice. The #10 ranked Light Heavyweight is 3-0 with 3 KO's. I have a fighter right now who's 4-0 with 4 KO's, one in 12 seconds and another in 08 seconds, and he's ranked 49th in the Light Heavyweight Division. I look at guys like Cain Velasquez and think that the rankings in real life reflect not only wins, but also the method, impact and quickness of a victory (whether the UFC and other orgs ranks its young fighters too highly too quickly is another discussion). I'm aware that the issue is most likely that I haven't fought any highly-ranked opponents, but this last weekend I knocked out a 3-0 fighter in EIGHT seconds. I wasn't surprised that I was ranked 49th until I saw the Top 10. It made me wonder, in MMA Tycoon, would a 5-0 fighter with 5 split decision wins be ranked the same as a 5-0 fighter with 5 first-round KO's? Would that be the case in a real MMA league or organization? Which brings me to my second question: does anybody else feel like the game has no love for the Knockout? That the game's mechanics favor submission fighters far too much? I would be surprised if this wasn't already a hot topic, or something that the developers at Tycoon are trying to balance, but I kept noticing that a lot of the top-ranked fighters at 8-0 and 9-0 were very well-trained in BJJ, and none of the other 3 categories were consistently trained or invested in. So I did a little calculation: I took the victory statistics of MMA Tycoon's Top 10 P4P Fighters and compared them to those of Sherdog's Real-Life Top 10 P4P Fighters. MMA Tycoon: 20% (T)KOs, 68.6% Submissions Sherdog: 38.6% (T)KOs, 30.2% Submissions Even though the KO's are more prominent, the Submissions % was further helped by Fedor's 53%, Miguel Torres' 59% and Mike Brown's 55%...and without Tycoon's #9-ranked Sean Trueman (#147, 6-0 with 6 KO's), Tycoon's victories jump to 11.5% KOs and 76.2% Submissions. Has there been any acknowledgment of this disparity? I know that sometimes if a good fighter comes out with a certain template, other managers will try to jump on that bandwagon and repeat similar success, but after looking at the percentages, I can't accept that it's just a coincidence or momentary trend, but rather evidence of an inherent advantage or imbalance existing in the game as it is right now. I think it'd be great if the programmers/developers could try to balance out the power of submissions and frequency of KO's to mirror or emulate the probability and dynamics of MMA in real world organizations. Because as it stands, I feel like creating a striker of either or both disciplines, who isn't at least "Competent" in Wrestling and a Purple Belt or higher in BJJ to start with, is absolutely screwed within 5 matches--and since joining the game relatively recently (Late May), I've already noticed that significantly more of the new fighters I'm seeing are starting out with Brown Belts in BJJ and not much else, and they're having success.

Hi, if you could take a look at my fighter I'd appreciate it! He's never been offered a sponsorship, but he's close to popping strength and conditioning so it'd be great to try out some supplements. Hank Hornsby (4-0, 4 KO's): http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=7011 In fact, most of my guys need sponsorship. If you feel like tossing anything my way that'd be great! Thanks.

I have a guy with Strong++ Sub Offense, Strong++ BJJ Overall, Respectable++ Def. Grappling and Mediocre+ Wrestling. I don't know what number of those categories are put into the equation for belt progression, but he is still a Purple Belt. So I think the jump from Purple to Brown is considerably more difficult than Blue to Purple. I think as a rule of thumb you'd clump the belts into a range of ~30 skill points, i.e. Useless-Woeful is White, Feeble-Competent is Blue, Respectable-Strong is Purple, etc. etc. with Red Belt being a more judicious promotion, most likely by the admins themselves. But, as has been previously and abundantly stated, it's not linear so who knows. And though it's not "real" BJJ, I wouldn't be surprised if progression from Brown to Red in MMA Tycoon doesn't involve outside factors, i.e. player reputation, contributions to the game, and/or key tournament victories. At least, I think that'd be kind of cool.

I made a Russian named Petr Petrovich, and after he submitted two guys by RNC, he's now known as "The Python" Petr Petrovich. Also, "Hammerhead" Hank Hornsby out of London is 3-0 with 3 KO's. I prefer catchy but believable names to the perverse or pre-existing.