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  1. Hey everyone! I am the recruiter for Osaka Niten Ichi in Tokyo. We are recruiting fighters for our 205 pound class. Only new managers are allowed to participate. That means you will not have to worry about veteran managers with the best elite training an years of experience with sliders. Everyone at 205 will be on the same level. We also only accept fighters who are created as 18 year olds and have an ID greater than 245,000. That means created after the last 2 weeks of March or later. If you are interested in taking part create a fighter and contact me with his name. I will be sure the signing bonus has enough to cover his training in a top gym until he gets his 1st fight. Here are the rules. Fighters must be created in Tokyo and be able to make weight at 205. Their fighter ID must be greater than 245k which would cover any fighter made after you get this mail, so no biggie there. You cannot be a veteran manager returning on a new account. If you have a guy that fits this description send me a mail, and I will get him signed. Don't forget that if you have a free slot for a fighter, and you are not a veteran manger, you can create a fighter that fits the description! If there are any questions, feel free to post in this thread, or send me a message. Bjorn O'Donnel (94172) http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab102/KenricMMA/OniLogo_zpsece59e44.png
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    Kickboxing Build tips

    How should i build a kick boxer that is 22 years old. What skills will i need in the beginning to make him good? What secondaries should i focus on. Should i put some points in wrestling too. What are the hiddens that i should choose. What is best height for each weight class? Can you please help out a new player build a successful kick boxer.
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    Nutrition Stock Limit.

    So on my nutrition shop I see that I can only order 2500 units per month. Is that the same across all companies no matter how long they have been around or can others order more? Because I am sure that I saw another company that had more than 2500 items. Thanks
  4. Is anyone tired of having a private jet and want to get ride of it? well you can always give it to me . I don't have nearly enough to buy one and would like one. So if you decide to give one away choose me thanks
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    Fight Offer Flasher

    Can we add like a contract offer/ fight offer flasher? as in it will flash red or something to catch your attention because dealing with an org and people taking 5-10 days to accept or decline them is kind off annoying? Just thinking
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    1 fight contracts!

    Tradition FC is hosting its first event on 10 sept 2013 and we are looking to stack the card. As a lot of the fighters we have sent out contracts to havent accepted or declined we are looking for those who are willing to take a one fight contract to be on this show so we can stack it! then we can talk business if you would like to continue with the org and we can make a long good contract! We are based in las vegas and would appreciate any fighters that would like to lend their services. PM me in game or here with what fighter so we can get it going. Thank you!
  7. Sin City FC (3933) is looking for fighters based out of Las Vegas to fight in this up and coming ORG. we will be running tournament style fights meaning you will need to earn the right to fight for the belt. After 3 consecutive wins you will face the champ! Once we have enough under contract we will start off the first Quarter finals and the two finalist will fight for the Inagural belt! If you have a fighter who wants to join but doesn't live in vegas but is interested pm me and we can talk about covering a % of the move costs! Pm me in game or leave your fighter info here! Thanks
  8. I was wondering if the fighters you sponsor have an effect on your hype? I would assume yes but let me elaborate. 1.) If I sign a fighter who is 0-2 does that accept my hype, as in because I signed someone with two loses or does it only affect me when they lose again? 2.) if they win do I get a hype increase and a decrease if they lose? Thanks
  9. Hey all a while ago I put out a post about liking my boys FB Page, well now I have another big favor to ask. He is fighting for the Inaugural Bantamweight Championship belt for Maximum Fighting Championship on Oct 4th, and the fans get to choose the main event and all you have to do is go to https://www.facebook.com/MaximumFighting and like the picture that has him and tito jones on it. Anthony Birchak (10-1) vs Tito Jones(10-6) to headline the event and we all know that by being main event that means he will get paid more than just being Co-Main or just on the Main card. So if you could help a brother out and like the page I would appreciate it. You have to actually like the post that has his picture. Also if you wanna like his fanpage go to https://www.facebook.com/AnthonyBirchak we are trying to get him to 1k before oct 4th. Look up Anthony Birchak vs Ryan benoit to check out his last fight and you wont be disappointing. Thanks everyone!
  10. Hey all a while ago I put out a post about liking my boys FB Page, well now I have another big favor to ask. He is fighting for the Inaugural Bantamweight Championship belt for Maximum Fighting Championship on Oct 4th, and the fans get to choose the main event and all you have to do is go to https://www.facebook.com/MaximumFighting and like the picture that has him and tito jones on it. Anthony Birchak (10-1) vs Tito Jones(10-6) to headline the event and we all know that by being main event that means he will get paid more than just being Co-Main or just on the Main card. So if you could help a brother out and like the page I would appreciate it. You have to actually like the post that has his picture. Also if you wanna like his fanpage go to https://www.facebook.com/AnthonyBirchak we are trying to get him to 1k before oct 4th. Look up Anthony Birchak vs Ryan benoit to check out his last fight and you wont be disappointing. Thanks everyone!
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    Help me out!

    Hello everyone I just started a company and was wondering if yall could stop by and check it out. Nutrition Your Way! (3887) also if you want some services let me know so we can help each other out. My current product quality is 157 may not be the best but I just started and with more help I can research more. Thank guys!!
  12. So I am kind of new here so I am trying to figure out the best way to raise a fighter, I see a lot of people with successful fighters and want to know if you guys could lend some insight. I was wondering whats the best way to train someone. Should I make them 18 and for example make them a blue belt with good wrestling and spend a lot of time training boxing and MT up above the wrestling and bjj then switch it up? When training should I train punch technique everyday for weeks on end and then once they go up do defense? Should i max out the conditioning when creating the fighter to make sure that they dont get tired and train more? Thank you!
  13. So I was thinking, there is the BOOM fund to help those who are starting out, so I was thinking is there any way that Mike would be able to take the money from those managers who are going to be deleted due to inactivity and put it into the BOOm fund or a similar one so that it can go to help out those who need it? Just an idea. Thanks
  14. http://imageshack.us/a/img543/936/o1j.png Boom's aim is to help the more newer/noobish managers in the game get financially stable through scholarships along with providing free vip. Hopefully this can help managers who come into the game get adjusted and stay active. What is Boom? It's sort of like Bo Dayshus' Stacey fund, actually, it's a straight up ripoff. He left the game and the fund died as a result. So I wanted to sort of carry it onwards but do something of my own. It will work like Bo's fund with slight tweaks like giving away vip each month as well. Wanted Bo's "blessing" but he doesn't log in anymore. How can a manager get some funds/VIP? Tycoon Cash - Send me a pm requesting for it, length doesnt matter. Although the longer, more detailed the better. Being active on the forums helps as well. The quality of your message and the legitimacy of the needed funds will determine how much money is awarded. 50k is max amount and 1k is the minimum. VIP - Send me a pm, I'll put your name in a drawing that will be held on the last day of each month. First one will be held on July 31st. I'm a veteran manager, how can I help?</strong> By donating! Much like Bo's fund, this is heavily based on donations by wealthier managers. So if your feeling generous send a manager transfer to me along with a message saying it's for the boom fund. <strong>Any amount donated is much appreciated.</strong> Why should I donate? You should donate if you: - Are feeling generous - Want to give away money, but don't want to deal with the hassle of determing where money goes (or if your giving away vip, you can use our random drawings) - Want to make sure your large sum of cash can go towards helping as many people as possible Anything to set you apart from the Stacey fund? Yea, I will be giving out 3 months vip each month to a random nonvip manager. I will also post in the OP who donated(unless they want to be anonymous) and managers receiving funds. This will help managers know their cash is going where it is suppose to and give them recognition. Also I will make forum badges/icons for guys who donate/receive donations/vip etc. Here is one example or a work in progress: http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/549/ch73.png There will be many more. Of course these aren't mandatory to put in your sig, but thought it would be nice to be able to show off. There will be several more to cover other donation tiers. Like 10k/25k/50k etc donated. Recipients of funds/vip will also get badges. TL:DR - If your noob, request cash/vip by messaging me. If your rich, donate some cash. Current Boom Fund Donations(Cash right now): $12,182,625.00 Current number of Scholarships Awarded: 119 Total Dollar Value of Scholarships Awarded: $5,235,000 Total Lifetime Donations Recieved: $16,863,024 Side Note: If you receive a total of 50k from the fund and/or VIP, you are no longer eligible to receive it again in the future. Donors Ezekel Rage - 27k Jamie Coton (Coton81) - 500k Ville Coleman (Kole) - 50k Marky Mark (Marky) - 501k Steel Penn (SteelPenn) - 2,500,001 Damien Washington (BuckWild2690) - 1M Roy Goos(roygoos) - 250k Bob Roberts - 10k Icarus Phoenix - 300k Scottie Power- 250k Wilson Thieatcres - 600k Johnny Lee Paris (jlp) - 500k Juanma Lorente (juanma) - 100k Kayne Dewhurst (senseikayne) - 20k Chris Garcia (Victusify) - 150k Mark O'Sullivan (markyosullivan) - 262k Folgers MegaAir (Zardoz) - 111,111 Rory Daly (rdalycolts) - 102,453 Harry Gorilla (minark) - 1M Bobby Fossil (chroniccrush) - 62k Kyle F (kfuhrer) - 55k Richie Richburn (bigrock66) - 20k Don King (handgranaide) - 113k Agent Dee (calmlikeabomb) - 260k Dead Disney (DeadDisney) - VIP Luan Dovik (ludovik) - 100k Arran Newson (Rizzo) - 500k Lek Buddha (Chosen1) - 25k Face Kicker (Face Kicker) - 200k Dean Sutherland (Dinooo) - 4.1M Kojiro Sasaki (Eveas) - 1M Umberts Doofenshmirtz (GBS) - 1k Thor HGH (grasman) - 300k Logan Mikki (DougSupreme) - 100k Manuel Tossen (Mannetosen) - 600k Chad Didion (cdidman) - 50k King Justus (Justus) - 10k Johnny Sorrow (IrishX) - 50k Team Of Purpose (Purpose) - 10k Mike Thomas (mwt19744) - 75k Marcus Whitman (Double Negative) - 60k Furious Styles (YellaDragon) - 10,460 Rodrigo Oliveira - 120,000 Chero Kee - 100k Cisco Gomez - 50k David Swain - 75k Theodore Boston - 20k Dale Saw - 100k Rex Lawson - 250k Marine Man - 25k Ozzy Chandler - 100k Merv Johnson - 100k Bo Dayshus - 150K Scholarship Recipients Max Damage(SJT) - 15k Super Sizzle(hfgsizzles) - 30k Will Stuart(GymWill) - 25k Cymon Oracion(cymon47)- 50k Jeff Li(redstop) - 50k Peter Pancake - 25k Joe Castle(klank430) - 50k Mikey Barr(michael.barr) - 50k Tom Kuggoz (Kuggoz) - 25k Pappa Managggersch (pappa1) - 25k Ivan Kroshevik (KrazyIvan) - 25k Joshua Price - (imthranduil) - 50k Benji Hall (Phisch) - 50k Steve Wolfe (higgy44)- 50k Marine Man (gruntusmc17)- 25k Money$$$$ Mike (thegame) - 25k Jin Bogan (monmon123) - 25k Bob Runnings (deal4014) - 50k George Hunter (needles) - 25k Walter Sobchak (oparpax) - 25k Billy Babcock (loopbacker) - 25k Qaver 007 (Qaver 007) - 25k Tiberious Smith (Captainhoenich) - 25k Aaron Marceau (wallsh) - 50k Rider Rohan (hindsight) - 50k Jensen Dayley (JDEE777) - 50k Roy Burger (Roynique) - 50k Mike Stone (Bikplaya) - 50k Edsel T. (edselt) - 50k Nemara Grabovac (bole3890) - 50k Miguel Hopkins (migsholl) - 50k Mikey Smith ( Bshs05) - 50k Mr Heyusa (rmyres900) - 50k Mikey Kyle (mizzou39) - 50k Mike Hunt (robbymyres) -50k Joey Parker (tufflive247) - 50k Rogelio Cottonfloss (arayburno) - 50k Timothy Buckles (tatt4) - 50k James Listerman (kfurlotte) - 50k Lebron James (LBJ6) - 25K Theodore Boston (CaCold) - 50k Carson Branch (JudoJoker) - 50k Mr. Murto (sonof) - 50k Jimmy Gustav (boscorp) - 25k Freddy Flamingo (JST1151971) - 25k Kai Hyem (LL) - 50k Eric Kiddoo (Kiddoo) - 50k Liam Davidson - 25k Chero Kee - 50k Bobby Grey - 25k Cisco Gomez - 25k Damien Marley - 25k Joseph Ramsey - 50k Barbie Hard Candy (mmagurl) - 50k Schtekis Den Brutale (klund) - 50k Viktieu Boss (viktieu) - 50k Roger Stones (genes) - 50k Adrian Johnson (hawkeadon) - 50k Clint EastWood(3ford) - 25k Connor Yager - 50k Yulz Mishimo - 50k Buster Delefield - 25k James Hope - 25k Vladimer Avdalov (vlad01)- 50k Andrew Hartley - 50k Charles Sin - 25k Chris Godfrey - 25k Kevin Hart - 25k Mark Loyola - 25k Austin Scott - 50k Mark Factor - 25k Jim Mac - 25k Andre Ignition - 50k Dale McCann - 50k Darren Russell - 50k Andrej Martinovic - 50k A.J. Styles - 50k Juan Garcia Gomez - 25k Ben Maxwell - 15k Ayush Gupta - 15k Ivan Drago - 25k Barry Frick - 25k Vojislav Georgijevic - 50k Marcel Martin - 25k Petra Greening - 25k Digga Dogman - 50k Dill Pickle - 25k Ben Robins - 50k Mr knowledge - 25k David Mckenzie - 25k Vicente Mendoza - 50k Umbu Mizary - 25k Mickey Goldmill - 25k Furious Styles - 50k Heban Hebanowicz - 50k Kestas Igaris - 25k Aj van Rensburg - 25k Erik Åberg - 50k Pedro Fernandes - 25k Dan Monk - 25k Puf Puf - 25k FueL4 Hatered - 25k Floris Maljers - 50k Danny Boy - 25k Aderbal Maciel - 50k Butch Jones - 50k Janez Gorenc Jony - 50k Ozzy Chandler - 50k Big Mitch - 50k Jet Mantoba - 50k Je Rams - 50k John Coffey (93474) - 50k Victor Svensson 92203 - 50k Juston Roark (93357) - 25k Georges St-Pierre 93452 - 25k Garry Boyle 93719 - 25k Daeron Killer 94023 - 25k Jeremiah Lukker 87458 - 25k Jake Sweet 93730 - 25k VIP Draw Entrants(12/25) Charles Lee Ray FueL4 Hatered Tom Kuggoz Ivan Kroshevik Tage McNutt Coach Carlos Pothead Thatsme Stoned Trainer Johnny Tirado Jonas Ferreira John Jones Wes Sloggett Ted Dibiase Liam Davidson Bobby Grey Damien Marley Dave Chapelle Aj Henderson Rasputin X Bilbo Samhain Den Duston Erik Åberg Mister Worldwide Jeremiah Lukker VIP Winners - Next Vip Drawing - 12/25th Jack Khan (7/12) provided by Dead Disney. Peter Pancake (7/31) Provided by Ezekel Rage Arthur Vandelay (7/31) Provided by Chero Kee Freddy Flamingo (7/31) Provided by Jark Durak Gerbert Bryant(8/12) Provided by Dead Disney Pueblo Escobart (9/12) Provided by Dead Disney Jin Bogan (10/12) Provided by Dead Disney Dan Monk (11/15) Provided by Dead Disney
  15. please direct any donations to NYPFC to 82693, any donation is greatly appreciated.
  16. I'm giving away my private gym in Helsinki if anyone wants it. I need to get rid of it in the next few days, so post here or pm me asap if you want it.
  17. most common problems upon signing up is "whats going on?! and how do i make my fighters do the face punching thing?" lol well i have been there... and ill give you some tips to get you on your way a little faster than i did when i started. before you get lost in the reading and if you dont wanna read this and just wanna fight and make money, skip down past this entire post to my next post below. that should get you started nicely! now if your here to stay a while on this game. i would suggest reading further! --- --- --- 1. you got a question? ask ANYTHING. no matter how small your question is. but before you do, try a quick search and read about it in the help sections provided in the game and on the forum. --- --- --- 2. most everyone signing up wants to FIGHT, and fight NOW! if your going to do this, create a 25 year old fighter and put him in the QFC But first, know how to make a proper fighter that you can fight with immediately! but first i want you to understand what makes a good fighter so if you lose you can understand why. Now a QFC fight takes place in 2 days, and when it happens it becomes a webpage of text. you can view the fight by reading it after it happens. this is not a "live" game. so dont worry about being online during your fight like i tried to do lol. also, read your fight from the first page that comes up upon signing in. its way at the bottom. this page is called the "spoiler page" cause it dont tell you who won or lost so you can read it without knowing til the end Now dont go and fill up your fighter slots yet! i wouldnt create more than 2 fighters until you figure things out. cause you only get 4 and you can delete one every 30 days so you might be stuck with your fighters for a while and want to build and train young 18yr old "project" fighters once you get the hang of it. If i sent you this message in a "hellow" message then reply to me with 2 of your fighter numbers and ill send them a few thousand tycoon dollars so you can begin a small project fighter. Now i dont usually respond to messages as im very busy so unless you ask a question i might not reply or event message you to let u know u got the money. so you'll have to check yourself on the finances page. --- --- --- Most important attributes of a figher in order of importants. a). sliders. heres a good slider informational. http://www.mmatycoon...=60#entry437595 . HIDDENS! your fighter will have ALL hiddens, but you can improve 3 of them a small amount. heres the link to read about hiddens. http://www.mmatycoon...fighter#Hiddens If you want to know the secrets of how to find out how good your hiddens are here is a good link! and SHhhhh! keep it secret lol. http://www.mmatycoon...topic=35753&hl= c). Proper build. having your skills line up to work together. heres an example of a great build for new players to make some quick money without training whatsoever. 160-180 cm tall (short to avoid takedowns) 265ish pounds and in Las Vegas because thats the most awesome place to fight historically Boxing 77 MT 36 (you can take the 35 points off this and put onto boxing but then a kicking fighter could take you out very easily. risky move but it could work for you. clinchwork is a lot of muay thai also tho so remember that as well) Wrestling 57 BJJ 1 Punches 110 Kicks 1 Elbow 1 Knee 1 Clinchwork 110 Striking D 110 GnP 1 Takedown O 1 Takedown D 110 Submission 1 Defensive Grap 1 Transitions 1 Escapes 1 This gives you about 40 extra points to place wherever you want. I would put them on knees,elbows,takedowns, or kicks. elbows cut more than they take energy from opponent. if your going against a pure striker, you could mix in 3-5% takedowns to make your striking more effective by making him think about more things. but dont kid yourself, you dont want this fight on the ground much even against a pure striker. And throwing kicks make you likely to be taken down so... Agility 60 (very helpful for kicks and striking defense and some clinch and more even) Flexibility 1 (needed for ground game, kicks) Speed 60 (very helpful with takedowns and striking offense/defense) Strength 1 (might want to do a few sessions of weight to get this a little higher. its very useful with clinch and ground game but used in almost everything.) Conditioning 110 (both cardio and strength is easy to train up, but if you wanna fight NOW. i'd put them high. if you have some patients then take a few weeks training them from the lowest setting leaving you room to put points on the harder to improve attributes like speed and agility) Balance 36 (needed to maintain top position on the ground, and to avoid takdedowns. so consider upping this if your afraid of takedowns.) your going to want to be a counter fighter against wrestlers with this build. if your opponent is going to be going for a takedown as his ONLY weapon. i would go 90-100% counter. and throw about 70% head shots (simulates uppercuts IRL) Single shots not combos! and only go about 40% for power on your shots to make sure you make him pay early and get him winded before he catches a lucky takedown early and wins easily on the ground against your lacking ground skills. Try to clinch 10-15% of the time. less if your opponent is great in the clinch and more if hes usless in the clinch. now once your in the clinch, set your sliders to be very active. with around 70-90% aggression and 50/50 for head/body strikes. more head strikes if hes going for only takedowns. And now your ready to book a qfc fight right off (unless you wanna up your physical skills a little more first) and it will happen in 2 days from signing up. now, if you want a ground fighter... im not really the guy to talk to at all. --- --- --- 3. Now you want to see how far your fighter can go! well, put him in a gym gyms: you dont need the best... all you need is slighly better coach than your skill your training on. dont sacrifice too much time, effort, and tycoon dollars on elite coaches when you are at an abysmal skill. And dont go under 90% energy. heres the help page on gyms. http://www.mmatycoon....php?title=Gyms But cool your jets, hes an old guy at 25 so dont get your hopes up. But from here even old guys and train up physicals pretty good so pop him some supplements and get him doing some CT, cardio, or weight classes. Now nutritional supplements in this game are not like real life! Here they are extremely important if your trying to improve your fighters skills. not an option, its essential. heres some info on supplements http://www.mmatycoon...46 so in your quest to further your fighters fame you think about a belt almost immediately because its only natural to try and place a goal. I order to do this you need to sign with a fight organization. --- --- --- 4. Contracts/orgs: its not about the money... its about your freedom, enjoyment, competition, and mostly your boss. if your locked into a contract with an asshole, its not gonna be pleasant and they could keep you trapped in it for the duration of the contract and make you sit it out. so be careful. Now dont go looking at the top fighters in an org and get scared! YOU DONT HAVE TO FIGHT THEM! and probly wont be asked to. if the org owner says you gotta fight an ELITE ELITE ELITE fighter with your SUPERB overall fighter, thats horse shit and should never happen. even if you were all sensationals vs all elites i would never force that fight. Some organizations only have ten guys in your wieght class, with only 3 of them near your skill so be sure to look around before you sign and make sure they have ample opponents so you dont have to fight any monsters. it only takes about $1,200 a week to give your fighter everything his little (make believe) heat desires. So if on average most orgs give you one fight every 2 months. (i try to give fighters one every 4 weeks), Your going to need 500-5,000 a month to train your fighter depending on how good of coaches he needs based on his skill level. If your not going to train, then thats a different story. some orgs that go out of busienss and just quit playing the game, leaving you stuck in a contract. THAT SUCKS! been there quite a few times as a rookie. you might want to make sure the org your signing with has survived a handful of events before signing a long contract with them. heres a good read about contracts and how different they can be. http://www.mmatycoon...+good +contract --- --- --- 5. sponsorships!: they probly arent going to come ur way... lol people are lazy and it doesnt help you enough in this game to send out a million sponsorships to no name fighters. so if you want one your goign to have to go out and talk to store owners. send them all a message and let them know your here to stay and want to represent their store by using their products. im willing to bet that can net you a few sponsors. im working with Brute right now and that guys real busy IRL but he might respond if u send him a message! --- --- --- 6. money. if you dont have enough to train right off the bat just message me and ill send you some cash to spend at my betting company where i take 0% of bets and its a sure thing to make money if you study the fighters and bet enough times you definitely come out ahead. HW CRAZY BETS! heres a thanks to companies that i trust and that have helped me over the years. i would love to get everyone so if i forget you message me! i mean it. The old Beez nest gym MMA's Best Nutrition - Pit Inc for being the first reliable source of weight control and everything really. Just Fight (Shirts 6$ Shorts 8$) Firebird designsFirebird Designs for being my first clothing partner and being totally awesome to work with! Steel Pen for offering me help constantly even tho i always decline lol. they are super nice people from what i can tell. I will edit this as people message me with advice on what i could change or add to it.
  18. My fighter is down to 1/4 of his energy, how do i replenish the energy without sacrificing too much of my training regiment?
  19. Hey guys, new to the game obviously and im not sure exACtly how many sessions per week, and what type of sessions i should have my fighter working on? here is my fighters profile link: http://mmatycoon.com....php?FID=206870 AiDEN "sPADES" aCE (206870) 265lb weight class AiDEN has Mediocre (5)boxing, Strong (9)Muay Thai, Abysmal (2)wrestling and holds a bluebelt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Boxing http://mmatycoon.com/images/layout/stars/25.jpg Muay Thai http://mmatycoon.com/images/layout/stars/25.jpg Wrestling http://mmatycoon.com/images/layout/stars/10.jpg BJJ http://mmatycoon.com/images/layout/stars/10.jpg Muay Thai Strong (9) Boxing Mediocre (5) BJJ Woeful (3) Wrestling Abysmal (2) I really love the setup and premise of the game and i am going VIP today i really am dedicated and want to do well. I need a mentor and some advice on training and all aspects of the game. Thanks, Corey
  20. Any and all Donations are appreciated. My manager id 82693. Thanks to all who help out.
  21. Hi guys, I just started playing this game and I searched for the info but couldn't find it. I just want to know when the am/pm sessions start, how long they last and if it's game time or is it local city time.
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