Guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Everyone knows that if you spar twice in a row without a rest session in between you will be penalized and not get as much improvement from the latter session/s. well here are my statistics. first session was saturday morning and i gained 3.465 points in boxing skill. second session was saturday night and i gained 1.385 points in boxing skill. if i were to have a rest session in between, then i would have expected to get an improvement of 3.300 points in boxing skill. now you cannot just divide the numbers and say the penalty was X%, because you have to take into consideration the energy loss from the first session put my fighter at maybe 98% energy. Maybe this is not a considerable amount, maybe its enough to care. so with my careless math i would say you are penalized by only receiving 40% of the normal gain from a second successive sparring session. a 3rd or 4th may be higher penalty but im not going to figure that out cause i dont need to know. like finding out what a gun shot wound feels like, not interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 oh, and these numbers started at 12.55 boxing skill before the above mentioned gains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffWanderer Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 My rather more uneducated mind makes that a loss 60% of original factor as well even including a 2% energy decrease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 depends though was the sparring one on one? seems like a big drop and i wouldnt expect it to be that big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 My rather more uneducated mind makes that a loss 60% of original factor as well even including a 2% energy decrease. read the post again lol. we actually agree if you pay attention. and yes 1 on 1 sparring (first time for me!) im excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Everyone knows that if you spar twice in a row without a rest session in between you will be penalized and not get as much improvement from the latter session/s. well here are my statistics. first session was saturday morning and i gained 3.465 points in boxing skill. second session was saturday night and i gained 1.385 points in boxing skill. if i were to have a rest session in between, then i would have expected to get an improvement of 3.300 points in boxing skill. now you cannot just divide the numbers and say the penalty was X%, because you have to take into consideration the energy loss from the first session put my fighter at maybe 98% energy. Maybe this is not a considerable amount, maybe its enough to care. so with my careless math i would say you are penalized by only receiving 40% of the normal gain from a second successive sparring session. a 3rd or 4th may be higher penalty but im not going to figure that out cause i dont need to know. like finding out what a gun shot wound feels like, not interested. My rather more uneducated mind makes that a loss 60% of original factor as well even including a 2% energy decrease. read the post again lol. we actually agree if you pay attention. and yes 1 on 1 sparring (first time for me!) im excited. What? He said the loss was 60% and you said 40%. Sounds like he read your post just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 OP said he got 40% of his first sparring. CW said it was a 60% loss. That's the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 is this just for sparring of the same type? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaman Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Diminishing returns occur with back to back Sparring of the Same Primary or 3 consecutive Sparring Sessions of any Primary. Good luck! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffWanderer Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 read the post again lol. we actually agree if you pay attention. and yes 1 on 1 sparring (first time for me!) im excited. I was being mischievous giving the other factor.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 How did you calculate the 3.3%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Would this happen with say Boxing sparring in am and submission grappling PM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffWanderer Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Would this happen with say Boxing sparring in am and submission grappling PM? You will still get a depletion of gain but it will not be so severe but if you tried to do yet another session the next morning you would get almost no gain at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 and is that for all sparring or just the same type of sparring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffWanderer Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 and is that for all sparring or just the same type of sparring? You get a loss (compared to the maximum) if you do any sort of sparring back to back. You get a bigger loss, if you do the same sparring back to back. It gets worse every time you spar back to back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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