Liquid Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Most of my Spar Bots are around 21. They have one primary at Elite+ or Elite++. Associated secondaries are Sensational. Pretty much like this guy for an example An example My actual fighters get at least same sparring "star value" as these Elite primary Sensational secondaries bots and some of my fighters get even more "star power". Which brings me to following dilemma: to train or not to train, to fight or not to fight Train the bots to fight? or Those bots are a lost cause and can never make it no matter what. Which is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Hes just 21. I would train him to be more well-rounded and at around age 24+ I'd start whoopin some serious ass! =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j666 Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 why not fight them at least once to see what they got? could be a decent earner for ya, they pick up experience (which makes them a better sparring partner) and really, even 1 elite primary and some halfway decent secondaries is still good enuff to fight. people seem to have forgotten how to fight without the quad-wonderfuls. not saying you have or anything but still. he can train in his off sessions and really, 21 is NOT completely worthless learning speed...and if he is a slow learner, what if he has 150 chin, heart or ko power? he's still a viable option with room to improve at least on the sparring front. http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=42666 - started as a 22 http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=46382 - started as a 21 http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=51013 - started as a 22 http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=52778 - started as a 22 all still learn very well. if ur gonna follow the pack, at least open your eyes when you do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Someone could do a spar bot tournament. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky67 Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Main issue with the sparbot is they will struggle to keep their primaries as high ,so you will either struggle to keep their stats as high or let them decrease a bit to train a new primaries . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_Pidasol Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 What rubbish. A boxing bot will be sparring 6/7 times per week you will have absolutely no problems keeping his boxing attributes up. You may need to chuck in a ct here and there and that's about it. The wiki itself say sparbots won't be useless just slightly less effective if you have an alliance gym and everyone puts their bots together the in most instances you are going to have the 4+1 bots and meet the group training criteria. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 But experience also helps when sparring, and so fighting as well will give you the best sparring from what I gather from the info provided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Just fight them a few times. Seems pretty straightforward to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 why not fight them at least once to see what they got? could be a decent earner for ya, they pick up experience (which makes them a better sparring partner) and really, even 1 elite primary and some halfway decent secondaries is still good enuff to fight. people seem to have forgotten how to fight without the quad-wonderfuls. not saying you have or anything but still. he can train in his off sessions and really, 21 is NOT completely worthless learning speed...and if he is a slow learner, what if he has 150 chin, heart or ko power? he's still a viable option with room to improve at least on the sparring front. http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=42666 - started as a 22 http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=46382 - started as a 21 http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=51013 - started as a 22 http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=52778 - started as a 22 all still learn very well. if ur gonna follow the pack, at least open your eyes when you do it. Fight and Train maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manfred Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 A couple of my bots were made bots because they were dumbasses, so they might get the ax. The others might get a second chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 anyone going to open up a spar-bot tournament? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 sparring guys are not worthless -- if they arent high on stars just do some physicals or couple fights -- but even if you dont they are still not worthless just not top notch anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Just for the record all my Elite spar bots are at least 4 stars. Most are 4,5 and as such top notch. I suppose few circuits etc. will make them all pop to 5 stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I will probably throw mine out. Or just suicide them onto some QFC and hope that they can get up to 4.5 or 5 stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Take them out the back and end them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loveladdy Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 If you want a place to fight your sparbots against other sparbots you can come to my Org. Dignity Young Guns, I am prepared to set bots against other bots only in either K-1 or grappling only tournaments. During this time you can see if they are worth holding on to, and after your contract is up you will have had enough time to train them and see if they are worth keeping, or giving the axe. Just throwing the option out to a few guys who might be interested in a solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Kicker Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 you can always grind them up and feed them to your other fighters. soylent green!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Main issue with the sparbot is they will struggle to keep their primaries as high ,so you will either struggle to keep their stats as high or let them decrease a bit to train a new primaries . this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyster89 Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 sparring guys are not worthless -- if they arent high on stars just do some physicals or couple fights -- but even if you dont they are still not worthless just not top notch anymore This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 If you want a place to fight your sparbots against other sparbots you can come to my Org. Dignity Young Guns, I am prepared to set bots against other bots only in either K-1 or grappling only tournaments. During this time you can see if they are worth holding on to, and after your contract is up you will have had enough time to train them and see if they are worth keeping, or giving the axe. Just throwing the option out to a few guys who might be interested in a solution. I would be interested in having my spar bot fight in your org. email me in game details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 This well maybe "this" is the difference between, competing at the top, and just simply competing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_Pidasol Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 well maybe "this" is the difference between, competing at the top, and just simply competing Sparbots will not be worthless, I highly doubt they would require much training due to them only needing to keep 1 discipline high. If you were smart when creating your sparbots you would have placed the secondaries and for that matter phycials in the correct places and any sparbot that has hit Elite++ would now have decent enough phycials to earn 4 stars.. Do some QFC's with them and next thing you know you have 4.5 star bots... Lets not forgot to get maximum benefit from sparring now you only need bots that are 20% better than you.. But hey of course you know best edwardsfan hicks from West Virginia always do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Sparbots will not be worthless, I highly doubt they would require much training due to them only needing to keep 1 discipline high. If you were smart when creating your sparbots you would have placed the secondaries and for that matter phycials in the correct places and any sparbot that has hit Elite++ would now have decent enough phycials to earn 4 stars.. Do some QFC's with them and next thing you know you have 4.5 star bots... Lets not forgot to get maximum benefit from sparring now you only need bots that are 20% better than you.. But hey of course you know best edwardsfan hicks from West Virginia always do well this good 'ol boy still disagrees with you. you go off and *assume* that taking a couple of fights will make your spar bot great. but why? i wouldnt. all you're doing when you're trying to salvage these spar bots is essentially investing time into a sinking ship. the wiki already says that you only need to be 20% above the other fighters skill to get max gain. why were spar bots important? so you could get your young fighters trained up quickly. a competent fighter can do that for you now. so you dont need to waste 4 fighter slots to have 4 elite sparbots anymore. you can if you wish. but all us goofy hicks wont be. i think that you're hanging on to something that isnt there or in your best interest anymore. but that's just me. but if you think that it is....then go get big guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furosuchi Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 With the new system of skills decreasing I'd reccomend fighting with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_Pidasol Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 well this good 'ol boy still disagrees with you. you go off and *assume* that taking a couple of fights will make your spar bot great. but why? i wouldnt. all you're doing when you're trying to salvage these spar bots is essentially investing time into a sinking ship. the wiki already says that you only need to be 20% above the other fighters skill to get max gain. why were spar bots important? so you could get your young fighters trained up quickly. a competent fighter can do that for you now. so you dont need to waste 4 fighter slots to have 4 elite sparbots anymore. you can if you wish. but all us goofy hicks wont be. i think that you're hanging on to something that isnt there or in your best interest anymore. but that's just me. but if you think that it is....then go get big guy And that competent fighter of yours suffers as he is not sparring with a fighter of greater skill.. so then you put your great fighter in and he gets no benefit because once again you guessed it there is no-one better than him.. Lets not forgot that 1v1 with an elite fighter/bot is 12% less effective than sparring with 4 elite fighters/bots... But yeah no problems you got it all nutted out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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