Guest Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 fixed your title and added a poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Not only two of the best, but two of the most versatile, so that makes it really exciting, that this fight could go in so many directions. The most popular opinion being that Tonal will take Snake down and work some GnP, and Snake will work his submission game. I personally think it's a mistake to go the ground with Pendelum. He showed the intelligence hidden in his first fight, and I'm of the opinion that intelligence is a huge factor in the ground game. Neither guy really takes it to the clinch often, but I think if Tonal has a strong clinch game, that's a good safety area to be, plus it's a much better position to get after Snake's body. You would think given his extraordinary length, that's a good spot to get after the body and possibly gas him. Pendelum does have some knees and elbows, so he's a little more versatile in there, but it's really difficult to land body shots on Snake in the standup--over the length of his career opponents are landing 23% of their body punches, and an even lower 20% of their body kicks on Snake--that's why I think the clinch is a really good opportunity to exploit the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexiZaitev Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 grappling is a bad idea with snake because on top of intelligence, snake is ridiculously long which helps him lock in submissions, also i think that it may help in defensive grappling as well. clinch will probably be the deciding point of the fight, while tonal has underrated stand up as he has mainly been using GnP in his fights of late, at least when it comes to finishing opponents. If Tonal gets inside it will spell trouble for STP as its far easier to combat height in the clinch than anywhere else. However i think STP may go for guard pulls in the clinch to try and lock a submission in on Tonal. while that is an unlikely result its entirely possible imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyMuchacho Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Tonal via TKO unless he shoots a takedown. STP has too high intelligence to sit in his guard for too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Tonal via TKO unless he shoots a takedown. STP has too high intelligence to sit in his guard for too long. fighter intelligence is important. but you've got to think in terms of manager intelligence. if you're taking two top 50 managers and facing off then fighter abilities play a big factor. but i dont think that tonals manager is ranked very high compared to STP's. last time i checked, deamus was barely inside the top 100 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 fighter intelligence is important. but you've got to think in terms of manager intelligence. if you're taking two top 50 managers and facing off then fighter abilities play a big factor. but i dont think that tonals manager is ranked very high compared to STP's. last time i checked, deamus was barely inside the top 100 Deamus is always in the top 10 or 50. He may not be now, but thats what happens when you fight great competition all the time. Name me one great manager who hasn't fallen out of top 100? Just look at the org's Deamus has guys fighting in...NFC, CFC, Ascension, GAMMA, Syn Euro, Syn. Props to him for always fighting top level competition and not taking the easy way to the top, but I'm sure I'm just pissing the wind here trying to get you to acknowledge that Deamus isn't just a "middle of the road" manager like you said a couple months ago. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky67 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Name me one great manager who hasn't fallen out of top 100? me . For sure Deamus is a good manager but i'm not sure that he's ready to face a god. tonald duck had a long run but now it's time to lose. I hope he last a few rounds. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Deamus is always in the top 10 or 50. He may not be now, but thats what happens when you fight great competition all the time. Name me one great manager who hasn't fallen out of top 100? Just look at the org's Deamus has guys fighting in...NFC, CFC, Ascension, GAMMA, Syn Euro, Syn. Props to him for always fighting top level competition and not taking the easy way to the top, but I'm sure I'm just pissing the wind here trying to get you to acknowledge that Deamus isn't just a "middle of the road" manager like you said a couple months ago. im not saying he's middle of the road. he's one of the best....one of the best at avoiding tough matches, for sure lol Deamus pre-tough fights: top 50 Deamus post-tough fights: top 300 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 im not saying he's middle of the road. he's one of the best....one of the best at avoiding tough matches, for sure lol Your insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Your insane i gotcha man. difference of opinion is all. i'd expect more if you werent an admitted PSU fan tho haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexiZaitev Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 this is the same guy who wagered whether or not he was going to get married on a NASCAR race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 i gotcha man. difference of opinion is all No doubt. PSU > Chokies. Fact. Better start practicing for NCAA 13 . Anyways...you staying around this time? Why you no VIP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 this is the same guy who wagered whether or not he was going to get married on a NASCAR race yep. i lost that one. that was dumb tho. so this time im going with a sure thing. STP over tonald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexiZaitev Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 thats entirely possible its a close fight, either guy can win but ill be cheer for Tonal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 No doubt. PSU > Chokies. Fact. lol you lost all credibility when you said that Deamus fights tough competition Better start practicing for NCAA 13 . a glutton for punishment are ya Anyways...you staying around this time? Why you no VIP? just re-upped for 2 years. cant go away completely. tycoons one of those things that apparently can go in to remission, but never away. been iracing in the mean time tho. made #1 manager in mmatycoon when my buddies said i couldnt. 2 years from now i'll be a professional sim racer. mark it down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 I think Tonal's power will be the difference but anything can happen in this one. Be interesting to see the strategy and which if any of them tries to take it to the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 STP via guard pull to armbar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZeR613 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 snake , just cause he's snake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 STP via guard pull to armbar. This is because I think the clinch is risky as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Probably the only time I've ever been anticipating a fight which I have no part in lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Probably the only time I've ever been anticipating a fight which I have no part in lol Weren't you excited for the Fidel Puno vs. Bubba Killsinwater fight? I was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 speaking of Bubba-Puno, what an anticlimax to a wonderfully hyped fight. Hope this one doesn't end terribly like that one did. This is the most intriguing match up I've seen yet in this game. Not just style wise, but with each managers personas in the game. In the roleplaying sense this is like the battle of good vs evil . Jacky plays a great heel and is disliked by many, Deamus is humble and well liked by most (I'm assuming) . Two elite managers, two of their top beasts. Undefeated Vs All-Time Great. I'm going to order a cheese steak stromboli tonight and will gladly get my greasy fingers on my mouse to scroll down and read the pbp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 speaking of Bubba-Puno, what an anticlimax to a wonderfully hyped fight. Hope this one doesn't end terribly like that one did. This is the most intriguing match up I've seen yet in this game. Not just style wise, but with each managers personas in the game. In the roleplaying sense this is like the battle of good vs evil . Jacky plays a great heel and is disliked by many, Deamus is humble and well liked by most (I'm assuming) . Two elite managers, two of their top beasts. Undefeated Vs All-Time Great. I'm going to order a cheese steak stromboli tonight and will gladly get my greasy fingers on my mouse to scroll down and read the pbp. Mmmmm.... Stromboli... Yeah... I wished the Puno - Killsinwater fight had been better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PBR Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 down goes snake -- down goes snake 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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