UK ban on porn

[Mystery]

If we don't hear from Rory again he's either beheaded or stoned(and not in the way he would like) lmao jk

[Guest]

Fuck it come at me police!

 

PS if you guys dont here from me again i am in jail. lol?

 

Which country do you work in?

[Guest]

If we don't hear from Rory again he's either beheaded or stoned(and not in the way he would like) lmao jk

 

Touch wood. Besides I am back to the beautiful land of Scotland in 5 days!!! Will probs be less active then, so don't get too worried about me haha

 

Which country do you work in?

 

UAE, Abu Dhabi. Its actually great over here. (Hopefully the po po read that bit) but seriously it is!

[Guest]

Haha i was talkin to my dad and step mum about the ban on porn and she says it should happen but my dad was getting protective. I know sonebody is watchin porn

[Erik]

Haha i was talkin to my dad and step mum about the ban on porn and she says it should happen but my dad was getting protective. I know sonebody is watchin porn

 

That or your dad can tell an expensive exercise in censorship (which undoubtedly won't just censor what it claims to) when one is glaringly obvious.. but he probably is.

[Eveas]

hell didnt some chick running for congress or something in the usa want to ban masturbation or make it illegal act -- not 100% on the entire story just remember hearing some shit on it

Christine O'Donnell from the Tea Party.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0aKgZckokCU/TJkN--qNB7I/AAAAAAAACDE/w5aXsC8JHXI/s320/christine+o'donnell.jpg

She is also the, "I'm not a witch." girl. Not as bad as Phyllis Schafly who wants to legalize spousal rape I suppose, but loony none the less.

[Widing]

http://i.imgur.com/sUxRV.png

[Mystery]

Shit is spreading to Canada now zzzzz

[THT]

He's a tw@

 

He's made so many U turns I am surprised he isn't dizzy.

[Guest]

This is not only completely wrong and immoral to agress against people minding their own business on their own property, but it is a recipe for disaster. If this were to happen, I guarantee rapes, underground sex trading, kidnappings, STDs, and unwanted pregnancies would skyrocket.

 

And the worst part, nobody would be held accountable.

[Guest]

Christine O'Donnell from the Tea Party.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0aKgZckokCU/TJkN--qNB7I/AAAAAAAACDE/w5aXsC8JHXI/s320/christine+o'donnell.jpg

She is also the, "I'm not a witch." girl. Not as bad as Phyllis Schafly who wants to legalize spousal rape I suppose, but loony none the less.

@

 

People are retarded. Government is fundametally incapable of solving problems unless it was created by the government.

[Lefty]

This is not only completely wrong and immoral to agress against people minding their own business on their own property, but it is a recipe for disaster. If this were to happen, I guarantee rapes, underground sex trading, kidnappings, STDs, and unwanted pregnancies would skyrocket.

 

And the worst part, nobody would be held accountable.

I was actually thinking about this the other day and thats exactly what I was thinking. Which is why it will most likey never happen. I mean look at countries that have problems with male: female ratios like india and china. They have mad human trafficking problems. Pirates steal ppl and sell them as sex slaves its fucked up! And thats just from not having enough females! Lets just pray it doesnt cum to pass. I mean come to pass... Ahem

[Erik]

People are retarded. Government is fundametally incapable of solving problems unless it was created by the government.

 

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Are people seriously this ignorant to history?

[Guest]

 

 

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Are people seriously this ignorant to history?

 

Are you talking to me?

If you are, what has the government ever solved that wasn't created by the government.

 

Seriously, try me.

[Guest]

 

I was actually thinking about this the other day and thats exactly what I was thinking. Which is why it will most likey never happen. I mean look at countries that have problems with male: female ratios like india and china. They have mad human trafficking problems. Pirates steal ppl and sell them as sex slaves its fucked up! And thats just from not having enough females! Lets just pray it doesnt cum to pass. I mean come to pass... Ahem

 

Same thing to a lesser extent with prostitution. If you go to Amsterdam, you aren't going to get raped or kidnapped or abused by an owner of a brothel. Or shot in a drug war.

 

People are freaking retarded if they think banning anything is wise.

[Guest]

Are you talking to me?

If you are, what has the government ever solved that wasn't created by the government.

 

Seriously, try me.

 

Having a strong state sure seems to do a swell job keeping us from murdering each other indiscriminately, most of the time..

[Erik]

Are you talking to me?

If you are, what has the government ever solved that wasn't created by the government.

 

Seriously, try me.

 

 

Lets start with some basic problems where government intervention has at least resolved some of the issue: Corporate Monopolies, Acid Rain, Building Standards, Education, Workplace Safety, Health Care, Hazardous Import Control (Customs), Food and Medicine Safety.

 

 

Also this..

 

Having a strong state sure seems to do a swell job keeping us from murdering each other indiscriminately, most of the time..

[AK47]

if there ever was a ban on porn there would either be 3 "outcums"

 

1. crime rises

 

2. people eventually get used to it and beat their meat with imagination

 

3. widespread public masturbation where everyone unloads themselves onto one girl ........

[Guest]

Lets start with some basic problems where government intervention has at least resolved some of the issue: Corporate Monopolies, Acid Rain, Building Standards, Education, Workplace Safety, Health Care, Hazardous Import Control (Customs), Food and Medicine Safety.

 

 

Also this..

 

Corporate Monopolies: Monopolies cannot exist in a free market and the government is the largest monopoly in the country

Acid Rain: The rain where I live has a pH level close to vinegar, so I guess it's working

Building Standards: It would help if you actually knew background information about this, I have actually worked in development, and all the building codes do is increase costs, slow down productivity, and give power to bureaucrats. You're assuming that if there were no government regulations as to how to build houses, people would start making cheap houses that would simply fall apart. That is absolute nonsense.

Education: *facepalm* You realize that the US spends more money on schools each year and test scores haven't increased a bit. If you actually think that the government has created a solution to provide education to all, you really prove to me you have no clue what you are talking about. Just look at the statistics and you will find that the US school system is horrible. In fact, it has probably created more problems. More and more teenagers find themselves learning from their peers rather than adults, and the things they are learning are not very valuable (ie, sex, drugs, etc.)

Workplace Safety: The government did not solve the problem of workplace safety. Labor unions did.

Health Care: *facepalm again* I don't want to get into a healthcare debate with you because it would go on forever. America had the best healthcare system, now we're adopting the same as Canada and UK basically, there are a ton of Canadians that have came to America for healthcare (seriously, think about it, people have actually crossed the border to pay for our healthcare, when they could have gotten healthcare for free in Canada) and you are over 700% more likely to die if you are diagnosed certain kinds of cancer in Canada than America. Once again, I don't believe you understand, are simply repeating something that you heard from someone you agree with and do not actually comprehend the reality.

Customs: I'm going to be honest, I don't fully know all of the details about customs and hazardous imports. Although it is probably something that could easily be done through privatization of airports and seaports. So it really isn't that much of a problem anyways.

Food and Medicine Safety: **facepalm again** I don't know how people actually believe the government has actually helped with food or medicine safety.

Medicine Safety: There are plenty of dangerous and bead drugs out there that the FDA was not able to stop. The FDA has also stifled the creation of potentially groundbreaking medicinal products (especially in products that could alleviate the symptoms of cancer). It is common knowledge that marijuana is very helpful to cancer patients, yet the federal government is not only continuing to ban it, but also forcefully closing stores in California, where it is "legal". The FDA also has some of the strictest testing regulations in the world, which is why most medicines are created in America and first introduced in Europe.

Food safety: Two questions: have you ever got food poisoning? Before you go to a restaurant you're unsure of, do you call the local health inspector, or do you check Google reviews/Yelp?

 

As for the prevention of murders, this is a really unfair statement considering we have nothing to compare government to, but how do you know that if there was no government there would suddenly be widespread murder?

Also, if preventing murder is the goal, then it is worth noting that governments have killed well over 100 million people in the 20th century by governments.

[Hammer]

A ban on porn would be a gross violation of human rights! If ever there was a good reason for war, this is it

[Guest]

A ban on porn would be a gross violation of human rights! If ever there was a good reason for war, this is it

 

We must use our GUNS and SWORDS.

 

We must SHOOT towards the enemy.

 

We must ERECT a statue for our cause.

 

We must fight HARD.

 

We must go IN DEEP.

 

We must attack FROM BEHIND!

 

We must F**K the enemy up.

 

We must POUND the enemy.

 

We caught the enemy WITH THEIR PANTS DOWN!

 

Fire your WILLIE!

 

So many puns

[Erik]

Corporate Monopolies: Monopolies cannot exist in a free market and the government is the largest monopoly in the country

 

The Government is a malleable entity, first of all, and secondly a monopoly (or sometimes a duopoly, which isn't much better) can easily exist in an unregulated market and in fact did just that (which is why antitrust legislation got implemented in the first place).

 

 

Acid Rain: The rain where I live has a pH level close to vinegar, so I guess it's working

 

Well Acid Rain is down 65% over the last 40 years; it would probably be down further but the cap on the chemicals that cause it has been too high quite often (so companies have been able to "bank" some of the cap).

 

 

Building Standards: It would help if you actually knew background information about this, I have actually worked in development, and all the building codes do is increase costs, slow down productivity, and give power to bureaucrats. You're assuming that if there were no government regulations as to how to build houses, people would start making cheap houses that would simply fall apart. That is absolute nonsense.

 

You're assuming that if there were no government regulations people wouldn't cut corners or just plain make mistakes, the kind of relatively innocuous thing that results in peoples lives being put at risk.

 

This not about absolutes, I'm not expecting that every house would fall apart on the third day after you bought it or anything batshit insane like that -- it's not even necessary that malice be involved. A failure to properly inspect structures in Australia lead to 3 people dying when a wall collapsed onto a footpath earlier this year -- this is why enforced regulation is a good idea.

 

 

Education: *facepalm* You realize that the US spends more money on schools each year and test scores haven't increased a bit. If you actually think that the government has created a solution to provide education to all, you really prove to me you have no clue what you are talking about. Just look at the statistics and you will find that the US school system is horrible. In fact, it has probably created more problems. More and more teenagers find themselves learning from their peers rather than adults, and the things they are learning are not very valuable (ie, sex, drugs, etc.)

 

This is more a clear cut case of mismanagement rather than an inherent failing of the entity of government. Additionally, I'd point out that a good portion of nations ranking above the US in the OECD have pretty limited private schooling (some examples include: The Netherlands, New Zealand, Finland).

 

Part of the problem of course, is that bumblefuck states like Mississipi and West Virginia drag down the states that actually know what the fuck they're doing (like Massachusetts, Vermont, and New Jersey) that actually do quite well.

 

 

Workplace Safety: The government did not solve the problem of workplace safety. Labor unions did.

 

This is an oversimplification, but the truth is that Labor Unions and the Government often intertwined pretty closely or that the Government would work to broker compromises.

 

 

Health Care: *facepalm again* I don't want to get into a healthcare debate with you because it would go on forever. America had the best healthcare system, now we're adopting the same as Canada and UK basically, there are a ton of Canadians that have came to America for healthcare (seriously, think about it, people have actually crossed the border to pay for our healthcare, when they could have gotten healthcare for free in Canada) and you are over 700% more likely to die if you are diagnosed certain kinds of cancer in Canada than America. Once again, I don't believe you understand, are simply repeating something that you heard from someone you agree with and do not actually comprehend the reality.

 

Except Canada and Australia (not to mention most of the Nordic nations, France, and Japan) do better when it comes to virtually every available metric. From memory, cancer survival rates are literally the only thing America does better at and even that could be argued to be largely illusory (cancer is often picked up earlier in America due to the sheer volume of testing done to by American Doctors to avoid malpractice lawsuits).

 

The American health system *does* produce a decent outcome if you have plenty of money, I'm happy to admit that, but by and large it's just not that good. Also the system America is in the process of adopting is maybe half way between the current American system and the British NHS.

 

 

Customs: I'm going to be honest, I don't fully know all of the details about customs and hazardous imports. Although it is probably something that could easily be done through privatization of airports and seaports. So it really isn't that much of a problem anyways.

 

A couple of points here..

 

1) Even if it is private, it still has to be inspected (unless you trust private enterprises not to fuck things up without oversight, in which case I'm just going to say two words: British Petroleum).

 

2) Presumably a private airport is either subsidised, or people pay an extra fee to use it -- whereupon it essentially acts as a tax on all goods both incoming and outgoing (I hope I don't have to explain why increasing the cost of exporting goods is a really fucking bad idea).

 

3) It's important to note that a fuck up at customs can cause all kinds of problems like wiping out crops or bringing disease (that applies to produce) into an area. Admittedly this is less of a problem in America than here in Australia.

 

 

Food and Medicine Safety: **facepalm again** I don't know how people actually believe the government has actually helped with food or medicine safety.

Medicine Safety: There are plenty of dangerous and bead drugs out there that the FDA was not able to stop. The FDA has also stifled the creation of potentially groundbreaking medicinal products (especially in products that could alleviate the symptoms of cancer). It is common knowledge that marijuana is very helpful to cancer patients, yet the federal government is not only continuing to ban it, but also forcefully closing stores in California, where it is "legal". The FDA also has some of the strictest testing regulations in the world, which is why most medicines are created in America and first introduced in Europe.

Food safety: Two questions: have you ever got food poisoning? Before you go to a restaurant you're unsure of, do you call the local health inspector, or do you check Google reviews/Yelp?

 

You know all that fancy labelling on your food packages, you know why that's there? government regulation.

 

Also that part where Melamine hasn't appeared in any American baby formula lately like it did in China a few years back.

 

As for the stuff about the FDA, to say the FDA has been bastardised by corporate interests in recent years is a moderate understatement; this isn't so much a failing of mechanism as failing of administration, and could probably be traced to the fact that the majority of American voters keep essentially voting to shiv themselves in the stomach every 2 years.

 

 

As for the prevention of murders, this is a really unfair statement considering we have nothing to compare government to, but how do you know that if there was no government there would suddenly be widespread murder?

 

Somalia is a government free zone, I think we do have a pretty good comparison.

 

 

Also, if preventing murder is the goal, then it is worth noting that governments have killed well over 100 million people in the 20th century by governments.

 

Lets look at the majority of this though: 17 million from Nazi Germany in the Holocaust (mostly from occupied nations), around 20 Million from he USSR under Stalin (though not all were caused by the government), 1.5 Million from the Armenian genocide, somewhere in the range of 5 Million by the Japanese during WW2 on civilians (or POWs), 40 Million give or take by Mao Zedong, and 8 Million in the Congo Free State.

 

Have we spotted a common theme here?

 

It's starts with a D and rhymes with "ictatorships".

[JLP]

Kids these days have it too easy. I used to have to jerk it to bra ads in the newspaper when i was a kid.

[AK47]

Kids these days have it too easy. I used to have to jerk it to bra ads in the newspaper when i was a kid.

wait what ?lol

[Hammer]

 

wait what ?lol

 

Yeah, tell me about it. And the picture quality in newspapers was terrible in those days. "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger"