BigJoeSullivan Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 I just wanted to give a bit of advice to anyone who is new to the game and wants to maintain a good relationship with an org and also how to make more money or get things that you want. ID restriction Orgs A lot of people don't understand this when they first start the game. They are orgs that only allow in fighters with an ID higher than their restriction. This makes for a more level playing field for the fighters. New contracts The biggest thing most orgs are looking for is hype and popularity. Hype+pop = more tickets sold. The amount of money you are going to be offered will depend greatly on your hype/pop and what kind of org it is. Unrestricted orgs can often pay a bit more but their competition is likely to be much more difficult because they have older fighters. The opposite is true of ID restriction, less money but the fighters will be closer to your level of training. You may not get many offers until you have won a couple of QFC fights. If you don't want to wait you can always message the org and ask for one. If you don't like the contract, don't just hit decline with a blank box. There is a message box where you can tell them why you are not interested. If you tell them why you are declining they might sweeten the deal to change your mind. If the trip is too long for you they may offer to pay for that. If they money is not right they may be willing to come up. Want less fights, more fights, tell them. Most people will try to work with you but some may start off with their top offer so they may not all budge. Fight offers If you don't log in regularly at least every few days then most orgs are not gonna want to deal with you again. We have cards to fill and every time someone wastes a week to make a decision and then declines, we then have 1 week less to find a replacement. The second time around it is even harder to find a good match because most of the other fighters will already be locked into fights. Also since there is less notice time managers are more likely to decline. This can be a snowball effect all caused by one guy who didn't make a decision within a few days. My partner and I just don't resign these people and most orgs operate this way although they will all have their own preference for how long they can tolerate no response to the fight offer. Declining fights If you see an offer you are not happy with it is ok to decline. It is better to decline a fight than to do nothing at all. If you declining you need to give a reason, every time. Last week I had a guy decline without a reason, I sent a reminder that I need a reason and also a new fight offer. He declined again because the original reason was that he wanted more training time. Not knowing that, I made the new offer for the same date but with a different fighter. This is a prime example of why a reason needs to be given for every decline because ultimately I lost over a week of time playing around with this issue. I don't think you will find an org in this game who doesn't want to know why you are declining. Keep in mind that everyone in the game is represented by a real person who wants to win too. You can't always be the favorite. Sometime you will be the underdog. That certainly doesn't mean you wont win. That doesn't mean you should accept a fight where the opponent is better than you in every aspect of the game by a large amount. If it is just a couple points in each of the 4 primaries that would be an uphill battle but not impossible. I try to make sure every fighter has an advantage somewhere. Some managers will decline any fight that is not to their advantage. Including exceptionally even matches. These people quickly find themselves homeless and unwanted. On the flip side there are some bad orgs that are going to try and take advantage of you and throw you to the wolves for your hype. I don't think it is that many though. I have never had anyone try any crazy matches with me but I have seen a few guys that came to my org because the last one they were in was just farming them for hype. If you are unhappy with an org, you can offer to return the signing bonus if they will release your fighter. Many orgs will do this. Most of them don't want anyone who doesn't want to be there. Depending on the hype of the fighter they may ask for more than the bonus was. This is not unreasonable if you have won some matches in their org. Resigning When your contract is nearly up and the org wants to keep you they will send a new contrat. Usually while the original is still active. Since you will have at least 1 fight left on that contract they may add 1 fight to the new deal since it is coming from the original. 3-5 fights is standard early on. Late game I think it tends to be less when your fighter is getting to be a big shot. If the original deal was for 4 fights and you have done 3. The new contract maybe for 5 because although they want to do another 4 fights you still owe them one from the original contract. You should always get more money if your hype went up. If you lost most of your fights it shouldn't go down under most circumstances. If you lose a large amount of hype may not be able to afford the original contract but I have not seen that yet though I'm sure it happens. Communication Ultimately the most important thing is to communicate with the org. You will get more out of it and they will appreciate it and try to keep you happy. If you don't communicate with them then you are just another number and if that number isn't a high one then they wont care. Orgs that don't respond back to your communication are not worth dealing with. Finish your contract and move on because if they can't be bothered to respond to you they probably can't be bothered to do the work it takes to give you fair fights and contracts. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope that helps some new people who are coming into the game. If you are looking for a contract and are happy to fight in Hilo send me a message on my manager profile. http://www.mmatycoon...php?MgrID=76200 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesLeeRay Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Very nice guide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duphus Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 +1 good post Joe! Org choice is extremely important early on in the game, to get fair fights and against more even level managers so you don't get discouraged right off the bat. A good org makes the game way more fun and enjoyable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Thanks for the guide man. The only time I declined a fight I didn't give a reason so I'll make sure not to do that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJoeSullivan Posted August 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Thanks for the guide man. The only time I declined a fight I didn't give a reason so I'll make sure not to do that again. This is kind of why I decided to make this. A lot of guys just never really thought about it or maybe don't know if the org would even care. Until you are on the other side of the fence it is hard to understand how difficult putting a card together can be. It's a bit like putting a puzzle together because not every fighter in a division is currently a suitable match for everyone else in the division. Different managers want different things. I like to have lots of training time between each fight, 4 weeks. Others like to fight as often as possible and want less then 2 weeks between fights. Some guys will fight almost anyone you put in front of them and others are exceptionally picky. It's not easy to make everyone happy but nearly impossible when you don't know what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesLeeRay Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 I'm currently a matchmaker at HWP and there's nothing more frustrating than managers ignore the fight offers for days only to decline in the end without a reason. You will be left doing short noticed fights that will get declined too because a lot of managers didn't want a short notice fight in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Excellent post. As a newer org owner, I have only had one fight decline so far. However, it was accompanied with an explanation that made a lot of sense. I was able to respond and the manager felt respected as opposed to jerked over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Well said Joe! And they said you were good for nothing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJoeSullivan Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Well said Joe! And they said you were good for nothing... Those people must be bitter from a beating they took from me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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