Face Kicker Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 of my active fighters (3 of my fighters are just sparbots now, and 1 is a personal assistant) i have 5 fighters that are 35, one that's 36, a 34 year old, a 33 year old and a 28 year old. i'll probably have to pretty much start from scratch in like 6 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 i have been slowly releasing my older guys even if i still think they can win some -- just time to move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CusDamato Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I did, i still have a few of them. I'm pretty much in the process of starting over again like you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_Pidasol Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I've always had a mix of fighters - a few old, a few primes, a few up and comers and some that are training away waiting to debut. List management - much like any professional sporting team.. You want to stagger the retirments so you don't bottom out. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j666 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 i did actually start over from scratch. it's the best thing...very fresh, lots of pops and mystery wondering if they'll be good or not. it's exactly what i needed. then i got a couple of my old guys back, workin on one more currently, and that's cool too cuz now i have a decent mix of young and old. btw, for anyone wit too many old timers, and wanna give them one last hurrah: http://www.mmatycoon.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38262 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Kicker Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 i've had a couple empty fighter slots for quite a while now, i just haven't had the interest to create any new guys. whenever i sack a few i'll prob create like 5 on the same day so i can see how they all stack up against each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I have a 39 year old and a couple 38s. But about half my guys are over 33. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I've always had a mix of fighters - a few old, a few primes, a few up and comers and some that are training away waiting to debut. List management - much like any professional sporting team.. You want to stagger the retirments so you don't bottom out. I think this is the best approach. Stagger the retirements. Obviously if you have a winner which 35-36, it does not make sense just getting rid of him. If he can still win the big fights, then hold on. I created a slightly diffrerent strategy. I created 5 fighters, then when they hit 19, i made a new batch of 5, then 5 more and so on. Slowly i got rid of guys which lacked something, so now i have 2 or 3 24y olds going down to 17y olds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Kicker Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I have a 39 year old and a couple 38s. But about half my guys are over 33. 39?? damn i didn't realize anyone was that old yet lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italscratch Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Jigoro Kane is 40...man, how times fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 39?? damn i didn't realize anyone was that old yet lol Jorge Cruz was 40 when he left GAMMA this week. So you do get the occasional guy which can perform at the top level even that later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Yeah my guy goes on runs of a couple wins then loses several. Idk if I'm going to release him anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I assume you are talking about Brian Lobe. If i was you i would get rid of him. 39y, p4p 9000 and his skills are depreciating. Personally i would not get rid of a guy ranked inside the top 2000 or 2500 p4p. Once he drops out of there and his skills are going backwards, i would say he is out of the "top orgs" range, so probably i would get rid of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italscratch Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I assume you are talking about Brian Lobe. If i was you i would get rid of him. 39y So you do get the occasional guy which can perform at the top level even that later As this fighter, age 39, http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=29365; to KO Marciano after 3 rounds of losing is quite an accomplishment. We could have Randy Couture here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j666 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I assume you are talking about Brian Lobe. If i was you i would get rid of him. 39y, p4p 9000 and his skills are depreciating. Personally i would not get rid of a guy ranked inside the top 2000 or 2500 p4p. Once he drops out of there and his skills are going backwards, i would say he is out of the "top orgs" range, so probably i would get rid of him. or u could just take him out of the "top orgs" and fight him in some nice mid-tier org while letting certain skills drop and still maintain others...then finally succumbing to father time, u could either go low level, or specialty or send him to the bahamas. just another scenario that apparently is frowned upon but very realistic. not all fighters are world beaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 or u could just take him out of the "top orgs" and fight him in some nice mid-tier org while letting certain skills drop and still maintain others...then finally succumbing to father time, u could either go low level, or specialty or send him to the bahamas. just another scenario that apparently is frowned upon but very realistic. not all fighters are world beaters. I am not saying that is not an option, some people go down that road i know. Personally if i cannot see him bouncing back to a respectable level i just let him go. That said, i have never had 35y old fighters. My first batch i released before they hit 28y old. It was back in the day i wanted to focus more on just GAMMA. Some of them went to to top 100 p4p which is nice to see. My new batch is up to 24y old now, so i will see. I could end up doing what you said, and role play them. One thing is certain, the older a fighter gets the more you "understand him". Everyone wants the KO machine which kills the other guy within 7 seconds, but as your fighter gets older you find out he lacks something and you have to adjust your strategy. Sometimes it does suck though that the guy you wanted to be a HW Kick Boxer should actually be a MW ground technician, but he is too tall or his skills were set wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I assume you are talking about Brian Lobe. If i was you i would get rid of him. 39y, p4p 9000 and his skills are depreciating. Personally i would not get rid of a guy ranked inside the top 2000 or 2500 p4p. Once he drops out of there and his skills are going backwards, i would say he is out of the "top orgs" range, so probably i would get rid of him. Yeah its more of a how long can he fight kind of thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyM5 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I used to have a lot of older guys but I've been in the process of dropping all of them for a while now. My plan is to basically start over. I have many guys on the sack list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Most of my guys over 32 went in the shitter real quick skills wise, so I've been cutting a lot lately. I know I had bad injury hiddens for them, but I must have also got bad degrade age rolls as well. Reilly and McDermot in particular really fell apart in a manner of months, once that age/injury degradation starts it is impossible to keep up with. I have two fighters who have yet to fall apart over 32 and one of them is my oldest who has also had the most fights of any of my guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j666 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I am not saying that is not an option, some people go down that road i know. Personally if i cannot see him bouncing back to a respectable level i just let him go. That said, i have never had 35y old fighters. My first batch i released before they hit 28y old. It was back in the day i wanted to focus more on just GAMMA. Some of them went to to top 100 p4p which is nice to see. My new batch is up to 24y old now, so i will see. I could end up doing what you said, and role play them. One thing is certain, the older a fighter gets the more you "understand him". Everyone wants the KO machine which kills the other guy within 7 seconds, but as your fighter gets older you find out he lacks something and you have to adjust your strategy. Sometimes it does suck though that the guy you wanted to be a HW Kick Boxer should actually be a MW ground technician, but he is too tall or his skills were set wrong. yessss! that is something a noob should see. honestly, that is something a lot of managers should see haha. no one has said it better imo. the last part def does suck also, but we all run the risk of a poor decision here, bad decision there i guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Most of my guys over 32 went in the shitter real quick skills wise, so I've been cutting a lot lately. I know I had bad injury hiddens for them, but I must have also got bad degrade age rolls as well. Reilly and McDermot in particular really fell apart in a manner of months, once that age/injury degradation starts it is impossible to keep up with. I have two fighters who have yet to fall apart over 32 and one of them is my oldest who has also had the most fights of any of my guys. I think the game should have a random roll for when the degradation should start. Injuries should be a factor, but not the only one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_Pidasol Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think the game should have a random roll for when the degradation should start. Injuries should be a factor, but not the only one Pretty sure there is already - but I disagree injuries should play a massive part if not the biggest part of degradation. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasman Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I have a few old farts, this one being the oldest at 39 and still hanging in there after 61 fights. A very slow learner, but quite a good fighter. He's beat a few young bucks with much better stats in his time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think the game should have a random roll for when the degradation should start. Injuries should be a factor, but not the only one Pretty sure there is a random roll for degradation age. There definitely hasnt been a consistent age for when my older guys have fallen apart except that it is over 32. So i think 32 might be the earliest age it can happen, i.e. the worst roll possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762x39 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Pretty sure there is a random roll for degradation age. There definitely hasnt been a consistent age for when my older guys have fallen apart except that it is over 32. So i think 32 might be the earliest age it can happen, i.e. the worst roll possible. My guy Orange started giving me fits when he turned 32. You may be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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