PurplNurplToast Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I vote 205!! When does the tournament start? And when does registration start, how does that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Lockdown, I was just taking it from what someone else posted. If we can describe it in terms of our game positions and what score you would get, then I'll implement what you are saying. So let's take each position and describe points scored from moving to each other position. Takedown to xposition = xpoints. Someone has your back- to xposition=x points Mounted - to Side Control Bottom - Half Guard Bottom - to Guard Bottom - to Guard Top - to Half Guard Top - to Side Top - to Mount Top to Back taken (x points) Someone has your back - No points for escaping or reversing (into guard) back mount Mounted - No points for escaping or getting a reversal from mount Side Control Bottom - No points for escaping or getting a reversal from side control bottom Half Guard Bottom - 2 points to Half Guard Top - 2 points to Full Guard Top - 2 points to Mount Top - 2 points to Side Control Top Guard Bottom - 2 points to Half Guard Top - 2 points to Side Control Top - 2 points to Guard Top - GUARD BOTTOM TO MOUNT - I'm honestly unsure of this one, I'll have to ask around. I think it's either you get only 4 points for the mount or only 2 points for the sweep Guard Top - 3 points to Side Control Half Guard Top - 3 points to Side Control Side Control Top - 4 points to Mount - 4 points to Back Mount Mount - 4 points to Back Mount I think that's accurate but I honestly can't remember the points you get from Guard Bottom ---> Mount. I'll see if I can find out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Lockdown where did you get this scoring from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comte Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 265+ open weight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp61503 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 my fighter i have been trying to get in since this thing started never gets in i would love to see a lower weight class so he can compete. I gotta cut him soon only been keeping him around the past 6 months or so for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyJones Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Anyone who wants a lower weightclass should just vote 155, 135&145 is out of the race 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbsh209 Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Same with 265, give 205 your votes (although you wouldn't really benefit much from it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Lockdown where did you get this scoring from? standard IBJJF rules, which suck by the way. I've been DQ'd before lol Basically it's this 2 points takedown 3 points pass guard 2 points sweep, which has to happen from half guard or guard bottom 4 points back 4 points mount reversals are not rewarded with points 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbsh209 Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Why don't we just make two divisions? +185lbs, including Middleweights, Light Heavyweights, Heavyweights and Super heavyweights. -185lbs, including welterweights, lightweights, featherweights and bantamweights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbarr72908 Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 145. I'd like faster guys to compete especially in Grappling. You will see the 205'ers lose against 135'ers because the system makes lighter guys faster (faster takedowns and counters) and bigger guys get their KO power enhanced. Takedowns = points, so... Where will you use KO power in grappling? At grappling comps in Scotland if you tap someone they immediately challenge you to a 'square go' outside which is where KO power comes in handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 standard IBJJF rules, which suck by the way. I've been DQ'd before lol Basically it's this 2 points takedown 3 points pass guard 2 points sweep, which has to happen from half guard or guard bottom 4 points back 4 points mount reversals are not rewarded with points Thanks for sharing them! How did you get DQ'd out of interest? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 If 205 is the chosen weight, I wonder if Womba will be making an appearance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manfred Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Hey Mike where are you getting this scoring system from? This is what you have posted • Passing the guard = 3 points • Mount position = 2 points • Back mount with hooks = 3 points • Takedown (ends Guard or Half Guard) = 2 points • Clean Takedown (ends passed the guard) = 4 points • Sweeps (ends Guard or Half Guard) = 2 points • Clean Sweep (ends passed the guard) = 4 points To clarify.. - A mount is actually 4 points - Back mount with hooks is actually 4 points - Takedowns are 2 points regardless what position you land in - "Clean Sweep" sounds like a reversal to me. There is a difference between a sweep and a reversal. If you are in side control bottom and hit a reversal and you end up in side control top on you're opponent you get NO points. If you are mounted and you reverse him and end up in his guard, you get NO points. Let's say you sweep him from half guard bottom and land in side control top. You don't get 4 points for that, you get 2 points for a sweep (because a sweep has to happen from guard or half guard) and then you can get further points for mounting or going knee on belly or back mount. (obviously knee on belly doesn't exist in tycoon) but yeah... I posted them based on ADCC rules in the developers forum, and Mike made a few changes. This is what I posted: Posted 07 September 2013 - 08:43 PM I think a points based system makes more sense, is less subjective and more realistic. Something like ADCC: • Passing the guard = 3 points • Knee on stomach = 2 points • Mount position = 2 points • Back mount with hooks = 3 points • Takedown (ends Guard or Half Guard) = 2 points • Clean Takedown (ends passed the guard) = 4 points • Sweeps (ends Guard or Half Guard) = 2 points • Clean Sweep (ends passed the guard) = 4 points I don't think you should be penalized for pulling guard. Only ADCC does that. IBJJF doesn't nor does any other to my knowledge. But you don't get points for it either. EDIT: Remember that you have to hold the position for 3 sec, so if he passes directly into mount, he doesn't get 3+2, he just gets the higher score of 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 155 and a hw or 205. But definitely a 155 it easily adds the fw and bw guys without much of a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilTownMMA Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Are the weight classes like the last grappling tourney, where it goes by natural weight? Or does it go by the cut to weight? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMATycoon Posted May 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 natural weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havenwest Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Wen does this start I've been looking forward to this this i started as i haven't seen one yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyJones Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 In the news post yesterday it said the tournament will start in a couple weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havenwest Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Hahah cheers . I'm lazy when.it comes to know these things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rac2 Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 205 please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyJones Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 WTF how did 205 take the lead all of a sudden? Damn. Well clearly we need to do both 155 and 205 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 maybe there should be voting on whether to use IBJJF or ADCC rules. Although ADCC is the superbowl of grappling it only happens once every 2 years. Honestly probably 80%+ grappling competitions on the planet use IBJJF scoring and rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manfred Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 maybe there should be voting on whether to use IBJJF or ADCC rules. Although ADCC is the superbowl of grappling it only happens once every 2 years. Honestly probably 80%+ grappling competitions on the planet use IBJJF scoring and rules Only the world championships happen every two years. The regional and national competitions are more frequent. i reffereed a bunch of them in the last couple years. But you are right, IBJJF rules competitions are more common. I don't like advantages since they are more subjective and probably a lot harder to program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbsh209 Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Well we don't have to pick one or the other. These are TWGC rules, so a combination of both would be welcome I'd think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Oh and Mike please allow weight cutting for god sake I don't understand why you don't allow it. It's not like grappling tournaments ban it anywhere in the world I had a PURE grappler who fought like 20+ times at middleweight not be able to compete in the last middleweight TWGC because his natural weight was like 194lbs. That is a serious kick in the balls. Allow weight cutting you insane bastard, there is no reason to use 'natural weight' unless you just want to piss people off 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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