Bwang Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I know Mike is aware of this but I'm not sure if it's near the top of his to-do list. I think it's a very important mistake to be fixed. To train transitions you need a coach with Wrestling and BJJ. But there are no gains made in Transitions when Wrestling is sparred. A common bug bear is the extra points gained in Elbows and Knees due to sparring Muay Thai. I'd definitely appreciate a Transitions boost too. Sparring Wrestling at the moment gives gains to Takedown Offence and Defense and a smaller amount to Ground and Pound and a smaller amount to Defensive Grappling, but nothing to Transitions. Here's my fighter Johnny Heimlich's Tycoon Assistant data to show it: http://i60.tinypic.com/2hx7kfd.jpg Edit: there should be a submission boost as well. And escapes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpierrecanada Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 By far the slowest thing to train for all my fighters is transitions... I have a really fast learner who got to elite strike d in 125 sessions and he's done 12 transitions sessions with a double elite coach with 1 on 1 sessions and he is only woeful+ transitions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMATycoon Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 yeah i need to add this. it was an oversight that it doesnt increase as a secondary from wrestling but i might try and get that sorted today. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpierrecanada Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 yeah i need to add this. it was an oversight that it doesnt increase as a secondary from wrestling but i might try and get that sorted today. I was not aware, I thought wrestling contributed to this quite a bit. That would be a great addition if it's a small enough change to not cause you too much hastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shards Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 I haven't really seen much of a problem, one of my guys has 19 Transition classes with 0 sessions in both Wrestling and BJJ sparring and has Respectable+. I haven't tested his learning speed but I guess it's alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwang Posted August 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 I haven't really seen much of a problem, one of my guys has 19 Transition classes with 0 sessions in both Wrestling and BJJ sparring and has Respectable+. I haven't tested his learning speed but I guess it's alright. that's a reasonable learning speed. but my point was from the other way round - only sparring wrestling should boost the relevant secondaries, which is transitions and subs and escapes (as well as the ones it does do: def grap, tkds and tkd def). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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