aveiro17 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Hi, if my guy has 12 wrestling would i be able to still take down a 1 wrestling guy with the damage on 100% every single time i want? slam and confuse him, or should i go for little less damage and more accuracy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelPenn Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 No, not in this game. If you spam the takedown or if your opponent knows its coming chances are you will not get it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylib Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Whats the relationship between damage/accuracy setting and efficiency of takedowns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Going 100% damage and 0 % accurancy? Mate, it means Your fighter has close eyes and runs madly around. I wish see it. Really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Going 100% damage and 0 % accurancy? Mate, it means Your fighter has close eyes and runs madly around. I wish see it. Really. So it is like if i go 50/50% damage, he only use 6 out of 12(wonderful) in wrestling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 No, not in this game. If you spam the takedown or if your opponent knows its coming chances are you will not get it. how? if he got 1, even if he know im gonna take him down, im going to do it anyways? just like a white belt who know know the sweet is coming, but the brown belt De la riva him, because yeah... he is a brown belt?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbodave222 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 the sliders dont work like that. if you go 100 % damage, means you'll go charging in like a mad bull without really aiming for the fighter to take him down. So i guess, its like your fighter runs in a direction, and have to hope the opponent is in that direction. if he is in that direction, he'll be taken down no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniConor Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 No, not in this game. If you spam the takedown or if your opponent knows its coming chances are you will not get it. I can smell the salt dripping from your fingers. People who say "THIS will certainly happen and this won't happen in this game" are generalizing the game too much. It's fight by fight, some days a grappler a get a takedown and some days they won't be able to get it and will be knocked out. Fight by fight. going 100% damage on takedowns will increase your damage of the takedown and you will slam them to the floor and increase the likelihood of you getting a KO (slam) - fact We don't know yet, if 100% accuracy means the takedown you get is any easier than 100% damage but it will do less damage. I can only assume the compensation for less damage is a better chance of a takedown but I can't be certain as I haven't seen any evidence to support that assumption. I would say go for it. While you're still early in the game, why not fuck around with the sliders for a little while when the fight isn't all that important, you might not get another chance to do it. You SHOULD get the takedown to my calculations, but nothing is certain. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelPenn Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Salty I be. I have never got a slam, ever. I have created many wrestles and focused on the ground game for years and have never got a slam let alone a slam knock out. Now I do know it happens but not by trying to do it. Seems very random to me. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaston Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I can smell the salt dripping from your fingers. People who say "THIS will certainly happen and this won't happen in this game" are generalizing the game too much. It's fight by fight, some days a grappler a get a takedown and some days they won't be able to get it and will be knocked out. Fight by fight. going 100% damage on takedowns will increase your damage of the takedown and you will slam them to the floor and increase the likelihood of you getting a KO (slam) - fact We don't know yet, if 100% accuracy means the takedown you get is any easier than 100% damage but it will do less damage. I can only assume the compensation for less damage is a better chance of a takedown but I can't be certain as I haven't seen any evidence to support that assumption. I would say go for it. While you're still early in the game, why not fuck around with the sliders for a little while when the fight isn't all that important, you might not get another chance to do it. You SHOULD get the takedown to my calculations, but nothing is certain. It seems to me as you guys are trying to turn this thread into something its not. The poor kid obviously needs help based on his two post. Lets focus on that. So it is like if i go 50/50% damage, he only use 6 out of 12(wonderful) in wrestling? I would advise you to read the slider manual on this game because this game doesn't work the way you seem to think it does. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itakebrides Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Salty I be. I have never got a slam, ever. I have created many wrestles and focused on the ground game for years and have never got a slam let alone a slam knock out. Now I do know it happens but not by trying to do it. Seems very random to me. From my "bro sicene with sliders" you only get a ko by slam i going very high damage.Your more then likely get a better position when you get the take down if you go more damage then accuracy but it is harder to get get the take-down .If you go to accurate you more likely to land in his guard and half guard .I generally to go more damage then accuracy with ground guys to try and get that good position if i do get the take-down .With the ref stand ups being so bad you might as well not get the take-down if you land in the guard because it will be stood up quick 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 From my "bro sicene with sliders" you only get a ko by slam i going very high damage.Your more then likely get a better position when you get the take down if you go more damage then accuracy but it is harder to get get the take-down .If you go to accurate you more likely to land in his guard and half guard .I generally to go more damage then accuracy with ground guys to try and get that good position if i do get the take-down .With the ref stand ups being so bad you might as well not get the take-down if you land in the guard because it will be stood up quick Thanks, it was a brosceince answer like that i needed. I have been reading, that more power makes the guy use more power momentum to drive through and end up in ex. Side control (Y) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 It seems to me as you guys are trying to turn this thread into something its not. The poor kid obviously needs help based on his two post. Lets focus on that. I would advise you to read the slider manual on this game because this game doesn't work the way you seem to think it does. I dont know why you see me as a new kid i have been in this game in a while tho. What i meant with 50/50 and only half Skill was ironic, that i dont think the guy will run around blindly and "lost all of his Skill" just because of higher damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Salty I be. I have never got a slam, ever. I have created many wrestles and focused on the ground game for years and have never got a slam let alone a slam knock out. Now I do know it happens but not by trying to do it. Seems very random to me. Do you know how much the damage/accuracy affect the chance of getting the takedown? Like its much esier to hit with a jab If it is loose with not that much power, but in the takedown scenario you should have the power to drive through the takedown, and maybe the sprawl too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I can smell the salt dripping from your fingers. People who say "THIS will certainly happen and this won't happen in this game" are generalizing the game too much. It's fight by fight, some days a grappler a get a takedown and some days they won't be able to get it and will be knocked out. Fight by fight. going 100% damage on takedowns will increase your damage of the takedown and you will slam them to the floor and increase the likelihood of you getting a KO (slam) - fact We don't know yet, if 100% accuracy means the takedown you get is any easier than 100% damage but it will do less damage. I can only assume the compensation for less damage is a better chance of a takedown but I can't be certain as I haven't seen any evidence to support that assumption. I would say go for it. While you're still early in the game, why not fuck around with the sliders for a little while when the fight isn't all that important, you might not get another chance to do it. You SHOULD get the takedown to my calculations, but nothing is certain. The fight in on the Island for my wrestler there, so i dont want to take risks, but as im facing a blue belt like me. I thought If i could use my wrestling as an advantage against his not existing wrestling, to land him hard, and work from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEpicity Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 The fight in on the Island for my wrestler there, so i dont want to take risks, but as im facing a blue belt like me. I thought If i could use my wrestling as an advantage against his not existing wrestling, to land him hard, and work from there. If you gave him 110 clinchwork (which is what you should always do for any creation or some asshat will come and clinch rape you) is take him in the clinch and rape him(ironic I know). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 If you gave him 110 clinchwork (which is what you should always do for any creation or some asshat will come and clinch rape you) is take him in the clinch and rape him(ironic I know). I got him down every time, a slow start, but just GNP the shit out of him http://mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=790323 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniConor Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I got him down every time, a slow start, but just GNP the shit out of him http://mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=790323 did you go 100% damage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaston Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I dont know why you see me as a new kid i have been in this game in a while tho. What i meant with 50/50 and only half Skill was ironic, that i dont think the guy will run around blindly and "lost all of his Skill" just because of higher damage. I apologize then as I misunderstood what you were saying. But I would imagine that going 100% power would lessen your ability to get a takedown. If a elite boxer chooses to go with absolute power over accuracy, then his punches will be slower and easier to dodge and counter in real life. In this game though, I don't know. You might be on to something. If I go 100% power, I still have my speed and agility skill, so imagine that I would still get off some shots. Has anybody tested this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted January 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 did you go 100% damage? I did 65% damage, which maybe was the reason to that i ended up in side control, idk, but will be nice to test this more. I think i will try to go a bit higher next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted January 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I apologize then as I misunderstood what you were saying. But I would imagine that going 100% power would lessen your ability to get a takedown. If a elite boxer chooses to go with absolute power over accuracy, then his punches will be slower and easier to dodge and counter in real life. In this game though, I don't know. You might be on to something. If I go 100% power, I still have my speed and agility skill, so imagine that I would still get off some shots. Has anybody tested this? Yeah you might be right, becuase i see a difference in punching and shooting for the takedown, as in punches speed kills, but when you shoot for that takedown and drive it through, you need some kind of power right? and not just the accuracy, Hard to take one down, with no power, i think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madness Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Yeah you might be right, becuase i see a difference in punching and shooting for the takedown, as in punches speed kills, but when you shoot for that takedown and drive it through, you need some kind of power right? and not just the accuracy, Hard to take one down, with no power, i think? I was going to get into specific takedowns that use little to no power, but I decided it would take too long to type up. Instead, think of the power slider in this game as trying to pick someone up to slam them compared to simply being satisfied getting their butt on the ground. Shooting from outside in the center of the cage compared to running them up against the cage and grinding them down in the hopes you might scoop them up. A suplex or Cormier's famous single leg tossing them over his head compared to GSP driving in and straight to guard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted January 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I was going to get into specific takedowns that use little to no power, but I decided it would take too long to type up. Instead, think of the power slider in this game as trying to pick someone up to slam them compared to simply being satisfied getting their butt on the ground. Shooting from outside in the center of the cage compared to running them up against the cage and grinding them down in the hopes you might scoop them up. A suplex or Cormier's famous single leg tossing them over his head compared to GSP driving in and straight to guard. Have you some kind of tested this in any way? it makes sense to me too, but Mike just made this game hard to figure out, so we have to play on our own bro science Could be nice if any have done some test, about takedowns vs damage/accuracy aspect of the game.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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