Guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Rusty Griswold popped today. He is now Sensational in all primaries. I think he may be the first. (Unfortunately, if you look at his record, while he may have skills he clearly has no idea how to use them.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Very nice, first quad sensational I've seen. Record isn't too awful, 13-6, at least he can fight. I love it when I see a 0-0 double sensational who ends up having paper skin or a glass chin after a few fights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 I hear he's also got legs, ZZ Top style. Well, I guess this just goes to show that stats aren't everything. *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Impressive. NOw that his primaries are intimidating enough you should work on his Striking D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Impressive. NOw that his primaries are intimidating enough you should work on his Striking D You can't train chin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyster89 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 You can't train chin. Or heart, or likelihood to cut. Exactly why I have to throw my "projects" into a fight as soon as they have basic skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 That's some sickening primaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CusDamato Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 congrats,very nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Have any double elites emerged yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 There are a few double elites but this guy is probably the most well known. http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=52003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I guess I'll take this time to say realistically there should prolly be a primary cap. Not say there's anything wrong with what we have now, but if there's a quad elite... no fighter in the world would be considered quad elite minus Bas Rutten or Chuck Norris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I guess I'll take this time to say realistically there should prolly be a primary cap. Not say there's anything wrong with what we have now, but if there's a quad elite... no fighter in the world would be considered quad elite minus Bas Rutten or Chuck Norris. True. Why not, during the Figter Creation, pick two Primaries where you want to specialize in and only in those two you can become Elite and you will learn them 10% faster and the other two Primaries can come up to Wonderful max. or something. I like the Idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 You should be able to roll a "Bas Rutten or Chuck Norris" roll and get all 4 elites from creation though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 You should be able to roll a "Bas Rutten or Chuck Norris" roll and get all 4 elites from creation though. considering there has probably been millions of fighters created i agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 maybe in a year or 2 give some lucky n00b the love child of Norris and Segal, Elite across an unobtanium chin, a meteor for a right hand, a nuclear heart, Dhalsim kicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 True. Why not, during the Figter Creation, pick two Primaries where you want to specialize in and only in those two you can become Elite and you will learn them 10% faster and the other two Primaries can come up to Wonderful max. or something. I like the Idea You wouldn't even have to select it to be honest. Just put a cap on it. Basically let somebody train to two elites (tops), maybe 1 sensational and 1 exceptional/wonderful or X amount of total points. Secondaries could still increase to multiple elites, nobody see's secondaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 You wouldn't even have to select it to be honest. Just put a cap on it. Basically let somebody train to two elites (tops), maybe 1 sensational and 1 exceptional/wonderful or X amount of total points. Secondaries could still increase to multiple elites, nobody see's secondaries. But in that case, one could train his fighter so Sensational and then get two to Elite, which isnt very realistic aswell. I mean, ingame, sensational is almost Elite, and i cant think of one fighter who would have Elite A and B and almost Elite C and D. I would cap it at something lower though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 But in that case, one could train his fighter so Sensational and then get two to Elite, which isnt very realistic aswell. I mean, ingame, sensational is almost Elite, and i cant think of one fighter who would have Elite A and B and almost Elite C and D. I would cap it at something lower though. Thing is you have double elite's already. What do you do? You say hey, no more guys like that. Double Elite is acceptable, they'd just be capped on their other primary's. Granted it should prolly just be a point cap. Examples (these numbers might not be correct, just numbers) Elite = 150 points Sensational = 130 Exceptional = 120 Wonderful = 110 Remarkable = 100 Superb = 90 Strong = 80 Proficient = 70 Respectable = 60 Competent = 50 Say the cap was 500 You have an Elite Boxing (150) Elite Muay Thai (150) that's 300 points. Sensational Wrestling (130 points) at best you'll have proficient BJJ. So although 3 major strengths, there's a glaring weakness, much like with any elite striker, or elite submission specialist IRL. I think realistically, for realism and game benefits, cap of 500 would be acceptable and understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I wouldn't worry too much about elite primaries. You'll still have high level elites and low level elites. As far as I know noone has actually hit 150 yet, although I had a sparring partner that was close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I wouldn't worry too much about elite primaries. You'll still have high level elites and low level elites. As far as I know noone has actually hit 150 yet, although I had a sparring partner that was close. What's the different between 140 and 150? Prolly about the same advantage as a superb++ boxer has over a superb-- which is just about none. Having a triple elite fighter or a quad elite isn't realistic, and good luck finding fights on a consistent basis. As I said, double elite would be fine as long as there were restrictions on how far their other primary's can actually go. Doesn't make much sense to have a quad elite fighter in the game. The double elite's are scaring enough people lol I'm not saying put a cap on secondaries, even though there prolly should be, since nobody can see them. A cap is hands down the best way to go. Especially since I've heard there's no deteriorating effects on fighters ability's. You could prolly put a cap secretly in effect and 90% of people who play this game would never even find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I have 2 guys at 99% of one primary, 100% seems like it will take a while even with a fast learner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_Pidasol Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 What's the different between 140 and 150? Prolly about the same advantage as a superb++ boxer has over a superb-- which is just about none. Having a triple elite fighter or a quad elite isn't realistic, and good luck finding fights on a consistent basis. As I said, double elite would be fine as long as there were restrictions on how far their other primary's can actually go. Doesn't make much sense to have a quad elite fighter in the game. The double elite's are scaring enough people lol I'm not saying put a cap on secondaries, even though there prolly should be, since nobody can see them. A cap is hands down the best way to go. Especially since I've heard there's no deteriorating effects on fighters ability's. You could prolly put a cap secretly in effect and 90% of people who play this game would never even find out. Watch that kind of talk many players here will jump down your throat ... 6-8 months ago maybe longer there was a discussion about capping primaries and secondaries.. It was met with much talk of "the sky is falling down" "quad elites won't happen" blah blah blah... Well the first quad sensational is here and the full affects of private gyms still won't be seen for 6-12 months... There really isn't any strategy to fighter creation, and realistically diversity among fighters is going to further diilute. Capping primaries and secondaries for that matter will go a long, long way to solving that problem. Basically its 9 random rolls and the ability to train in in a private gym that decide if you get a great fighter.. Luck not skill makes a great fighter.. Yes there should be some element of luck in there so the random rolls on hiddens should stay, but having a cap on points will mean managers will actually have to make choices as to what style of fighter to build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Watch that kind of talk many players here will jump down your throat ... 6-8 months ago maybe longer there was a discussion about capping primaries and secondaries.. It was met with much talk of "the sky is falling down" "quad elites won't happen" blah blah blah... Well the first quad sensational is here and the full affects of private gyms still won't be seen for 6-12 months... There really isn't any strategy to fighter creation, and realistically diversity among fighters is going to further diilute. Capping primaries and secondaries for that matter will go a long, long way to solving that problem. Basically its 9 random rolls and the ability to train in in a private gym that decide if you get a great fighter.. Luck not skill makes a great fighter.. Yes there should be some element of luck in there so the random rolls on hiddens should stay, but having a cap on points will mean managers will actually have to make choices as to what style of fighter to build. Yes, the first quad Sensational (not Elite) is here. 13-6 mired in the mid 2000's of the P4P. Sweet Christ the sky has fallen and the game is now broken! Tapeleg ruined everything for everyone! My god, he has only been a member since May of 2009! You should have to sink at least 5 real time years into this game to be able to have a guy who has reached the bottom of the second level near the top of four skills. I mean he only has to train him for what... another real year to make it to Quad Elite- maybe! Aaah! Aaah! Aaah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Yes, the first quad is here. 13-6 mired in the mid 2000's of the P4P. Sweet Christ the sky has fallen and the game is now broken! Tapeleg ruined everything for everyone! LMAO -- --- the world is over --- he will never be beaten -- oh wait nevermind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 The problem has never been that they would be unstoppable or whatever, it has always been that if you have everything at elite there is no planning involved in building a fighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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