Most people don't use knees though and there are only so many gyms (unless it is a private gym) that would allow a manager to reach elite knees anyway. It is a good counter to KO Power and Granite Chin opponents in my opinion if your fighter has terrible hiddens and he has at least wonderful knees, then again I'm still a fish out of water with only 3 months of experience so I haven't dealt with the same frustration you had Rambo lol.........