Warwynd

Holy fucking shit... Thsi shows two things One, this asshole needs to go. He is obviously trying to game the system Two, This asshole really sucks at this. Even with all this bullshit going on he still isn't doing as well as Blake Phoenix and his "Brother"

Long time no see, Kelly. Good luck to you. I just came back last year myself (well, technically November of 2017, but that's roughly a year. Who's counting, right?)

Fair enough Fair enough

Run him over with a car then get out and slam a cinder block on his head. Then grab your sledgehammer and beat the unmitigated Hell out of him. Then maybe you might have a chance.

Congrats on hitting Exactly 12,000 posts. LOL And also to Steel Penn for ten years in this game.

Granted. You would need one-on-one training at some point in real life to fine tune, but that doesn't invalidate my point. You can still benefit just as well, if not better overall in groups up to 3-4 on 1. My proposal would be to make the efficiency drop off at least half of what it is now up to 4-1 sessions and make the drop-off above 4 more significant. For this game I feel it is the better option. In fact, I feel that the drop off in efficiency between 1 and 4 on one should be only about as severe as the current drop off between 1 and 2. Then above four is when you start seeing the significant drop off in efficiency. When I first started playing this game the drop off between 1 on 1 and 2 on 1 was crippling. It was I think three or four times as severe as it is now. I cannot find the two charts anymore without spending more time then I care to to do so, but it was BAD. If you didn't get 1 on 1 then you just lost. it was that simple. You could never compete at the top and it was probably a big cause for player base declining. I feel that although it is much better now, that training is still a big problem. I feel really bad for the noobs that join the game today. They have no decent public gyms, and almost nothing that they can afford. With many of the newer ID restricted orgs wanting to pay paltry signing bonuses and show and win bonuses being equally anemic it's no wonder they go inactive and lose interest. They aren't seeing gains because they can't get decent training. Therefore they cannot win against the guys that have the good gyms; the private ones with one-on-one training. This to me is more important than physical caps and a lot of other things that have been brought up because it is doing a lot of harm to the player base, I think. I know this is going slightly off topic here, but physical caps is just silly. What should be addressed is actually more along the lines of a total skill point cap being lowered so you don't see all Elite/Elite/Elite/Black at the top end of the game. Those builds are unrealistic. The issues with nutrition companies as startups and so on is another problem, but ultimately unrelated to this one.

Agreed. And once the companies/gyms thing is addressed the only people left doing multis will be the cheaters and then it will be much easier to spot them and terminate them. P.S. I don't really care too much about multis as long as they are not interacting with each other to gain unfair advantages over others. I would not mind having another account just so I could see how I do from a fresh start, but I don't because it's against the rules. But would anyone really give a shit if I did and there was no collusion or contact at all between the two accounts? I rather doubt it. In fact as long as nothing shady was going on then I doubt anyone would even look into whether or not I had a multi.

A big part of the problem as I see it in gyms is the coach wages. These assholes want $5K+ per week and that means at least 5 people need to train there to pay for one coach. you can easily see where this is going. 5-1 ratio in training is useless. Outside of physicals or sparring, your fighters will learn precisely dick. Which is just fucking wrong. No wonder noobs give up on this game so easily. It is hopeless for them. Now, don't get me wrong. I am not saying that all noobs should get elite training that took veteran managers years to gain access to right out of the gate, but the current setup should be totally revamped. The only reason that I have a private gym is because: Two of my friends in this game from back in the day gave me a bunch of money to get started when I came back. ($1,250,000 to be exact) I realized that you can simply buy in-game cash buy selling your VIP time. I did just that and banked a few million dollars. Now I more or less make enough money to stay afloat, but without spending real world money, I would likely have been struggling a lot with that aspect. The gym hemorrhages cash though to the tune of about $45K per week due to the high cost of coaching staff. The concept of a gym as a business in this game is completely unsustainable due to the logistics of it. I have many ideas about ways to fix this problem. Some might have flaws that I have not foreseen, and others might be even better than I anticipate. Some of my thoughts on gyms are as follows: Coach wages are entirely too high. The drop-off in effectiveness of training between 1-1 and 2-1 is still way too sharp. Above four fighters per coach and I could see an argument for significant drop off in gains, but the drop between 1 and 2 is huge and gets progressively less significant from there until four to one. That is just stupid. Even some of the best fighters in the world still train with TEAMS and do quite well. (Obviously, they are the best fighters in the world). So greatly reducing the amount of diminishing returns from training with more than one on one training will do wonders for not only giving people significantly better training but also making gyms a viable business proposition. Even without reducing the coach wages at all. All VIP Managers should have a "private gym". They should get access to a pool of Pre-made coaches that they can then hire onto their staff. These guys should be made in a way that makes sense for what they train, and not all have to be Double Elites. I'm not one hundred percent in favor of the pre-made coaches idea tbh, but the part where all VIP managers should have access to a private gym with an option to open another business I think is a great idea. With some of these options in place then it would make public gyms viable as a business option and allow even the non-VIP players to have access to affordable and at least decent training options. If the training effectiveness drop-off were to be addressed than the cap on number of gym members would/should be increased or removed altogether. The coach limits should still be in place so there really doesn't have to be a membership cap anyway since the gyms will find a logical balance naturally. No one will make a gym with 5000 members between their 14 coaches. Or more to the point, no one would join that gym. They would seek other less crowded gyms which would likely be more plentiful if the training in them was able to be made both effective (at least somewhat) and affordable. That's all I can think of off the top of my head, but I think that some of these options are at least looking in the right direction.

Personally, I think everyone should be allowed a Gym and a Company. Since Gyms really don't make money they should just not be considered a business. Either that or give gyms a serious makeover so that they can be both profitable (mildly at least) AND provide halfway decent training, rather then the way shit is now. Either the gym makes money and anyone training there may as well do situps at home for all the good the gym will do for them, or they provide good training but are money pits. It's stupid. No one would open a gym in real life if this were the logistics of them and in this game having gyms be the way they are only encourages people to run multi's because it's either you train in the private gyms or you lose. That sucks ass.

RISE Rankings (As of 1/5/2019) Bantamweight (135 lbs): Champion: Glass Joe Dieselnoi Por Pramuk Chamuaknoi Sitsongrit Leo Kovarov ↑ 1 Jaro Lalla ↑ 1 Eta Knox ↓ 2 Kisada Hida Chosen One ↑ Christian Baier ↓ 1 Seng Goku ↓ 1 Robert Vanderweil ↓ 1 Not Rated Yet: Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Key Fights This Month: None Featherweight (145 lbs): Champion: Henrique Gusmao Ronald Mateo Suarez Andre 3000 DeMario Valdez Kron Diego Lee Bruce ↑ 2 Mono Loco ↓ 1 Killian Armstrong ↑ Christian Cyborg ↑ Antonio Zetsika ↓ 3 Caniel Dormier Not Rated Yet: Albert Sure, Altansarnai Shinjo, Great Tiger Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Jeremy Glenn Key Fights This Month: Great Tiger vs. Altansarnai Shinjo Lightweight (155 lbs): Champion: Nick Morris Ronald Wagenknecht ↑ 3 Tud Stoddler ↓ 1 Scott Smith ↓ 1 Niudu Kakka ↑ 3 Darren Tellkins ↓ 2 Humberto DaSilva ↑ Wale Ammond ↓ 1 Armin Schultz Shannon White ↓ 4 Ernest Graves ↓ 1 Not Rated Yet: Tyrone Spong, Steph Curry, Shoju Bayushi Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Key Fights This Month: Ernest Graves vs. Tyrone Spong Sagat Shanti vs. Pedro Changggg Steph Curry vs. Shoju Bayushi Welterweight (170 lbs): Champion: Henry Aron Valerio Bartoli ↑ 1 Jhin Markell ↓ 1 Meatball Destroyer Lee Sin ↑ 3 Besy Jyre Lani Kirby Ariel At Night ↑ 1 Suicide Bunny ↑ 1 Ruslan Danilov ↑ 1 Mr. Gibbs ↑ Not Rated Yet: Yokuni Togashi, Mosi Kondo Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Ryouta Sato Key Fights This Month: None Middleweight (185 lbs): Champion: Carmelo Anthony Torcidall Sailcirc ↑ 2 Anthony Falcone Middle Weight ↓ 3 Max Slaughter Cody Brinks ↑ Johnny Truth ↑ Bug Turd ↓ 1 Matteo Boretti ↓ 3 Tomo Jr. ↓ 2 Chief Bear ↓ 2 Not Rated Yet: Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Key Fights This Month: Chief Bear vs. Max Onera Bug Turd vs. Piotr Chojnowski Rafal Mazur vs. Shaun Brownie Light-Heavyweight (205 lbs): Champion: Daniel Orndorf Lighty Light Heavyweight Riley Knox Petr Antonovich Joosep Löhmus ↑ 1 Cornelius Burns ↓ 1 Reinhard Heydrich ↑ 3 Juha Niska ↓ 1 Nicky Santoro ↑ Chief Shadow ↓ 2 Gargan Morus ↓ 10 Not Rated Yet: Brendan Moker, Gordon Marlow Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Key Fights This Month: Chief Shadow vs. Gordon Marlow Jeremy Jones vs. Brendon Moker Jack MaHogOff vs. Erikki Salmi Heavyweight (265 lbs): Champion: Heavy Heavyweight Fedor Emilianegro Mario Farina Benny Allison Frank Granger Pension Buckets Alexandru Mircea Keone Kapisi ↑ 1 Ricky Rawse ↓ 1 Crazy Lobo Gandolf Schmidt Not Rated Yet: Desi Kraag, Jessie Karhu Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Key Fights This Month: None Super – Heavyweight (265+): Champion: Cajun Puto Super SuperHeavyweight Tembo Laibon Mo’ Money Leonard Rocambole Not Rated Yet: Delirious Creation, Jimmu Tenno Hantei, Fu Leng Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Tembo Laibon, Leonard Rocombole Key Fights This Month: None

My concept does not allow for practice fights. Just for training purposes. I think that the OP does want to see it for practice fights/ slider settings etc, and I don't think that aspect is a good idea either.

No one should even sign that guy... ridiculous

I still feel that way today, though.

No that is a script that was made sometime after the other one stopped working. The old one would extract the information from the page and you could then copy it into a spreadsheet in just a few keystrokes. It was pretty amazing actually. the problem arose when something changed with either the way the snapshot page worked or in the coding of the browsers but whatever it was it broke the script. the one you posted is the one i am running. Which is helpful, but not the one we are talking about.

As I stated. Set your schedule to have no training until the fighter is fully rested back up. Then make sure that your energy does not go below 90%. Check it daily (at least) to make sure that you are above 90%. If not then take a session off to rest before resuming training. When you are fully rested, I would suggest training nothing but Cardio until you get to AT LEAST Wonderful before training other things. As usual, do not let your energy level drop below 90% while doing this. Also, take a 160Q Increase Stamina Supplement while training your cardio. It should only take about two and a half weeks to go from Abysmal (the minimum) to Wonderful in this way.

This +100

There are a lot of variables involved with training. Physicals are not affected by your fighters learning speed, only his age, so it's possible that you have a slow learner. I would also need more information then you have provided so far. Things like How old is your fighter? And how much energy does he have at the moment and during training etc. If you dip below 90% energy you will progress much slower than if you maintain your energy levels above 90%. Things like that. It is also possible that your fighter just has a crappy learning speed to start with. It happens. PM me in game and I can go over this stuff with you in more detail. I would also advise you to get yourself a mentor. They are invaluable for starting players and will help you to understand the game better and likely increase your enjoyment of the game (because winning is way more fun then losing). P.S. Also two training sessions without noticeable improvement is not at all uncommon. It usually takes at least that many to see improvement.

I'm going to write up something in more detail and then get with you to put a proposal together for Mike and maybe put a poll up. This idea has merit and I think that somewhere between your idea and mine we have gold. So, let's see if we can get this rolling.

RISE Rankings (as of 12/29/2018) Bantamweight (135 lbs): Champion: Glass Joe Dieselnoi Por Pramuk ↑ Chamuaknoi Sitsongrit ↓ 2 Eta Knox ↓ 1 Leo Kovarov ↓ 1 Jaro Lalla Kisada Hida ↑ Christian Baier Seng Goku Robert Vanderweil Not Rated Yet: Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Key Fights This Month: Vladimir MagomedsharipovNumagomedov vs. Chosen One Bubba Bizzle vs. Thad Thayer Leo Kovarov vs. Seng Goku Featherweight (145 lbs): Champion: Henrique Gusmao Ronald Mateo Suarez ↑ 1 Andre 3000 ↓ 2 DeMario Valdez Kron Diego ↑ 2 Mono Loco ↓ 1 Antonio Zetsika ↑ Lee Bruce Min Holloway James Howlett Caniel Dormier ↑ Not Rated Yet: Christian Cyborg, Killian Armstrong, Albert Sure, Altansarnai Shinjo, Great Tiger Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Key Fights This Month: Christian Cyborg vs. Lee Bruce Caniel Dormier vs. James Howlett DeMario Valdez vs. Killian Armstrong Lightweight (155 lbs): Champion: Nick Morris Tud Stoddler Scott Smith Darren Tellkins Ronald Wagenknecht Shannon White Wale Ammond ↑ 4 Niudu Kakka ↓ 1 Armin Schultz ↑ 1 Ernest Graves ↓ 1 Black Alligator ↓ 3 Not Rated Yet: Tyrone Spong, Humberto DaSilva, Steph Curry, Shoju Bayushi Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Key Fights This Month: Ronald Wagenknecht vs. Humberto DaSilva Shannon White vs. Niudu Kakka Nick Morris vs. Tud Stoddler Adlan Aukhadov vs. Son Gohan Welterweight (170 lbs): Champion: Henry Aron Jhin Markell Valerio Bartoli Meatball Destroyer ↑ 1 Besy Jyre ↑ Tiaga Toriyama ↑ 3 Lani Kirby ↓ 3 Lee Sin ↓ 2 Ariel At Night ↓ 2 Suicide Bunny ↓ 2 Ruslan Danilov ↑ Not Rated Yet: Yokuni Togashi, Mosi Kondo Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Key Fights This Month: Lee Sin vs. Ryouta Sato Hans Swartzmuller vs. William Scout Buddy Franklin vs. Jeff Rinaldi Middleweight (185 lbs): Champion: Carmelo Anthony Middle Weight Anthony Falcone ↑ 2 Torcidall Sailcirc Max Slaughter ↓ 2 Matteo Boretti Bug Turd Tomo Jr. Chief Bear Max Onera Jim Sterntz Not Rated Yet: Johnny Truth, Ian Maan Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Key Fights This Month: Carmelo Anthony vs. Middleweight (Title Fight) Torcidall Sailcirc vs. Mateo Boretti Johnny Truth vs. Ian Maan Light-Heavyweight (205 lbs): Champion: Daniel Orndorf Lighty Light Heavyweight ↑ 1 Riley Knox ↑ 2 Petr Antonovich ↑ Cornelius Burns ↑ Joosep Löhmus ↑ Juha Niska ↓ 5 Chief Shadow Gargan Morus ↑ Reinhard Heydrich ↓ 3 Chief Wolf ↓ 3 Not Rated Yet: Brendan Moker, Gordon Marlow, Tomomisian Tsuruta Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Key Fights This Month: Nicki Santoro vs. Tomomisian Tsuruta Reinhard Heydrich vs. Liam James Heavyweight (265 lbs): Champion: Heavy Heavyweight Fedor Emilianegro ↑ 1 Mario Farina ↑ 2 Benny Allison ↓ 3 Frank Granger ↑ 1 Pension Buckets ↑ 2 Alexandru Mircea ↑ 2 Ricky Rawse ↑ 2 Keone Kapisi ↑ Crazy Lobo ↑ 1 Gandolf Schmidt ↑ Not Rated Yet: Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): Key Fights This Month: Pension Buckets vs. Ricky Rawse Super – Heavyweight (265+): Champion: Cajun Puto Super SuperHeavyweight Mo’ Money Tembo Laibon Leonard Rocambole Not Rated Yet: Jessie Karhu, Delirious Creation Inactive Fighters (15 days or more): None Key Fights This Month: Super Superheavyweight vs. Mo’ Money

Still works as advertised for me also.

I was more thinking of retired fighters from ones own stable or something like that. Either that or just a list of Sparring partners that are available for hire and just like other fighters/free agents you take your chances with their hiddens. Or even more like what I was thinking is to hire sparring partners like coaches in a gym. that way they would not decline and so on. Being able to fully customize right down to the hiddens is unimportant and needlessly complicated in my opinion.

Yup. This has potential

I like the basic concept. I am thinking that it should be more like a sparring session but with greater gains then normal sparring sessions, (but also with greater energy loss perhaps). This would also remove money from the game by giving fighters something else to spend money on (an often discussed topic). It should be no injury also or maybe (for a bit of added realism) it could still be possible to get some injuries. Maybe half the normal chance of injuries? A quarter? How often do we see fighters coming to fights with injuries in real life? Pretty often. This could introduce that possibility into the game, but the risk of injury could be worth it if the added training was higher then a regular spar session. You could "purchase" up to four of these guys for your gym and they would have a cost dependent upon their "star" rating in the giving Primary. and be limited to 3 or 4 fighters in that time slot (other than themselves). Just throwing some ideas out there to add to what you did.

As amateur fights, yes. That would be cool.

Yeah, my 5-0 fighter took his first loss for similar reasons. I wasn't able to log on for two days. In the mean time autoflight.. followed by ass-raping... it was a fight I was sure I could have won had i not lost a shit ton of energy flying to Sydney from New York.