Guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 brock was hurt by the knee...he even said he was hurt by it at the post fight press conference. he recovered quick, but he was hurt. Well at least 2 of us heard him say it although a number of people here don't believe him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 this shit is gonna be hilarious when someone will finally land a clean strike on brocks head/chin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexinaco Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 this shit is gonna be hilarious when someone will finally land a clean strike on brocks head/chin. That will be very difficult but I would definitely enjoy that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 thats' a good conspriacy theory. mazzagatti and his porn stache obviously hate pro wrestlers, heh. now you're jsut reaching...you can do better than that... i dont know how much of an effect had on the mir/lesnar fight...you dont know how much effect of it had, no one has any idea how much it changed the fight. right now it's just an excuse, because whether you like it or not...mir's hand was raised at the end of the night. If it were just the odd stand-up or the staring at his hand tapping for a few moments and not doing anything, whatever. However, it was both. I'm not saying why because I don't know, but he definitely had an agenda. Lesnar fought reckless, but at that stage, Mir wasn't going anywhere. He was trapped like a kid under a boulder. Well at least 2 of us heard him say it although a number of people here don't believe himHe said he saw birdies for a second, maybe two. However, there was not much visibly to suggest he was actually rocked. this shit is gonna be hilarious when someone will finally land a clean strike on brocks head/chin.Both Couture and Mir did and they lost. Nothing anyone will hit him with will hurt more than his botched SSP (he jumped way too far out) at WrestleMania XIX and he still finished the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexinaco Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Both Couture and Mir did and they lost. Nothing anyone will hit him with will hurt more than his botched SSP (he jumped way too far out) at WrestleMania XIX and he still finished the match. You say that now but we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 He said he saw birdies for a second, maybe two. However, there was not much visibly to suggest he was actually rocked. He went down and laid on Mir for 20 seconds barely moving and didn't try throw a punch of anything (and was warned to work because of it) You say that now but we will see. Did you see it? I can't imagine a KO would hurt more than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 i dont blame mir, id be pissed too after how badky brock embarassed and disrespected him... but he wouldnt have a chance brock would never let himself get caught by mir again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 If it were just the odd stand-up or the staring at his hand tapping for a few moments and not doing anything, whatever. However, it was both. I'm not saying why because I don't know, but he definitely had an agenda. Lesnar fought reckless, but at that stage, Mir wasn't going anywhere. He was trapped like a kid under a boulder. He said he saw birdies for a second, maybe two. However, there was not much visibly to suggest he was actually rocked. Both Couture and Mir did and they lost. Nothing anyone will hit him with will hurt more than his botched SSP (he jumped way too far out) at WrestleMania XIX and he still finished the match. seeing birdies=being hurt. why are you saying brock wasnt hurt when he said he was? you're being more delusional than frank mir right now, heh. i also wouldnt call couture or mir the hardest punchers in the sport. name me some people that couture has knocked out. mir had his moment against nogueira...but i dont think that had much to do with mir's pwoer, it had mroe to do with nogueira having the worst performance of his life. we can pretend lesnar cant be hurt until he fights a hard hitter if you want though, heh. if you dont know why mazzagatti didnt step in right away then you dont know that he had an "agenda." youre just speculating because brock almost lost a leg that night and that upsets you. brock tapped slowly, it's possible the ref thought that brock thought about tapping but decided not to. ive never seen more excuses for a loss than ive seen in this thread. it's quite amazing and i'm almost glad ive had this experience...i didnt think it was possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Show me where I said he wasn't hurt. I said nothing showed that he got rocked. Hurt and rocked are VERY different things. I never said he can't be hurt or that he hasn't. However, I do not believe anyone besides Carwin in his division has even the slightest chance of knocking out a head that big on a neck like he has. Punches aren't the end all, be all of landing clean shot. Mir landed two flush, hard knees on Lesnar in succession. I'd much rather get punched than take a knee to the face. The bone is bigger and leg muscles generate a lot more power. Couture has knocked out Gonzaga, Liddell, Belfort x2, Rizzo, and Randleman. Nog's fight wasn't a bad performance as it was coming in off an injury along with entering the fight with a serious knee injury. It's why he moved like old man. Don't pretend to know what upsets me. I wasn't bothered by anything except the stand up, but the Countdown event clearly showed Mazzagatti having a clear angle on Lesnar tapping, looking directly at it the entire time and just stood there for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 There are no conspiracies. Brock is better than Mir. Maybe he isn't as technically gifted but he is such a physical specimen that has dominating power and enough quickness to surprise the other guys in his weight class. Nobody truly knows what it is going to take to beat him but there is someone out there that will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Show me where I said he wasn't hurt. I said nothing showed that he got rocked. Hurt and rocked are VERY different things. I never said he can't be hurt or that he hasn't. However, I do not believe anyone besides Carwin in his division has even the slightest chance of knocking out a head that big on a neck like he has. Punches aren't the end all, be all of landing clean shot. Mir landed two flush, hard knees on Lesnar in succession. I'd much rather get punched than take a knee to the face. The bone is bigger and leg muscles generate a lot more power. Couture has knocked out Gonzaga, Liddell, Belfort x2, Rizzo, and Randleman. Nog's fight wasn't a bad performance as it was coming in off an injury along with entering the fight with a serious knee injury. It's why he moved like old man. Don't pretend to know what upsets me. I wasn't bothered by anything except the stand up, but the Countdown event clearly showed Mazzagatti having a clear angle on Lesnar tapping, looking directly at it the entire time and just stood there for awhile. couture didnt knock out any of the people you listed. there's a difference between actually knocking someone out and pounding on them until the ref steps in. name one time when couture has actually separated someone from consciousness...bet you that you cant do it, heh. i dont know if hurt and rocked are two very different things. it depends on how you define it i guess. brock was hurt for a second...he was rocked for a second. doesnt really make a difference. having a big neck doesnt mean you cant be hurt. i hate when people say things like that. it's like when people say a guy cant be choked because his neck is so big...isnt true. sherk was basically done and bj kneed him in the face and his neck is pretty huge. carwin has a prety big neck and he was almost put to sleep by gonzaga. the width of your neck has nothing to do with how well you take a shot, heh. the bottom line is that brock's chin rally hasnt been tested yet. the day he takes a headkick from cro cop and survives like nogueira is the day you can see he cant be knocked out. the day he takes a clean punch from anyone who has actual knockout power is the day you can say that. until then youre just making a guess at how good his chin is. i know what upsets you. the fact that lesnar had to wait a bit longer for the ref to save him upsets you. if it didnt uspet you i wouldnt be listening to the excuses youve been making, heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Me: I never said he can't be hurt or that he hasn't. / I do not believe anyone besides Carwin in his division has even the slightest chance of knocking out a head that big on a neck like he has. You: having a big neck doesnt mean you cant be hurt Me: Don't pretend to know what upsets me. I wasn't bothered by anything except the stand up You: i know what upsets you. the fact that lesnar had to wait a bit longer for the ref to save him upsets you. You're a funny guy and clearly one with reading comprehension issues. I have no desire to keep repeating myself or explaining things to a person that cannot grasp such simple concepts. Welcome to my ignore list. Nobody truly knows what it is going to take to beat himGood stand up, an excellent ground game, and the ability to absorb punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 i'm glad you find me funny. most people tell me i'm a funny guy...i'm glad to deliver again, heh. youre even more delusional than i thought if you really wont admit that brock losing the first time didnt bother you. if the standup bothered you then the loss had to bother you. we both know the truth....set the truth free. SET IT FREE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilScott Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 "Frank Mir" by Brock Lesnar http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/evilscott/mirpostbrock.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crzy1051 Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 check out the fight card for uec card before bad luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Can anyone put up a side by side of post Lesnar 2 Mir and one of the swollen faced people from the green day basket case video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleventhsun Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Mir is a joke That's a bit much. I just think he has too much of a passion for everything and ends up saying the wrong things. I think he means well at heart, and have always seen him as a true martial artist. I agree he's friggin delusional if he thinks he did anything but get destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexinaco Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 As simple as this: if Mir wants a rematch he has to earn it, because right now he doesn't deserve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepis Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 As simple as this: if Mir wants a rematch he has to earn it, because right now he doesn't deserve it. In my eyes, it's even more simple than that: if Mir wants a rematch, he can go blow himself, cause no one gives a deuce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Mir does not deserve a rematch end of story, Brock gave him a good pounding to the extent that he made him look like a girl facing a big man. In particular i cannot forget how Brock side locked him while on the ground and took all the time in the world to just place well timed punches to the head, then when he got tired of grinding leather to his head, gave himself a 30 second break before repeating what he did. Mir vs Brock is a waste of time for another reason, Brock has only really fought Mir and Couture, there are so many other fighters out there and their 2nd match was pretty one sided, if lets say Brock goes though a bunch of fighters and Mir goes on a 3 win streak over strong opponents then this could be possible, but something like that is maybe 2-3 years ahead of time (assuming that scenario actually plays out) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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