Guest Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Right now, 1 non-private gym available in Hilo, and it's $1000. Is the gym model as it stands profitable to own a gym? Why aren't there more open gyms? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itakebrides Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 yep people can make profit on public gyms . People rather have private gyms for themselves and alliance so they can get the best training .Cant have that if it is public. I posted in the improvement section to get rid of cap on charges since there a lot of money in game but people shot down the idea.I yo got rid of cap gym owner would have more money to hire better coaches and more of then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skap Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I think the training keeps people from making public gyms... you have a choice you can turn a small profit or you can privatize and make better fighters... the managers that have played for awhile dont need to make small profits so most gyms will be made for their own fighters... Soon all public gyms will be no more attractive than a cozad. Yes changes to Public gyms are needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Yes changes to Public gyms are needed. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romano130 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 There is no real advantage to running a public gym. You make a small profit but you can get a bigger profit by just winning fights with your private gym trained fighters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Changes are definitely needed. Public gyms are going extinct. ~Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronix Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Public gyms have been a problem for ages. There simply isn't enough motivation as why to have one. Crappy pay and lousy training for the owners if we open up the gym to the public. It's charity work if anything to run a public gym. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMATycoon Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 yeah this is a very tricky issue. always open to hearing solutions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronix Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 yeah this is a very tricky issue. always open to hearing solutions. There has been some great and bad ideas in the past and the discussions have flurished in many ways but they tend to derail because we, the community, don't know what type of framework we have to work with. It would help a lot if we knew what we could work with. What is an absolut no no and what do you prefer to keep and what things could be open for discussion. If you just could lay down some ground rules as to what you are looking for, I'm sure there will be plenty of ideas for instance.; Are you willing change the effectiveness of class sizes? Are you open to allowing a limited version of gyms being created by non vips. The coaches points, will you consider puping up the number? The more specific rules you can give us the better the feed back will be. This is a big issue for anyone not owning a gym, which makes interesting for a lot of people. I myself enjoy thinking about how the gyms could be improved but it's a very time consuming task and it's nice to know that the effort might actually led to something good. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Two possible solutions: #1 Raise gym caps significantly. If this was done, people could offer acceptable training while making a profit. or #2 Allow people who run a public gym to also run a second business. This would encourage owners who have a profitable business to be able to open a quality public gym as a form of charity without losing their source of income. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 I run a pseudo public gym.. 19 are my fighters.. rest are public. Some of the classes get a bit too busy but it's also nice having good sparring sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMATycoon Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 I'd be happy to change class size effectiveness / coach skills etc. Not keen on non VIPs owning gyms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Currently 2 is the fullest you want any class to be.. maybe make that 4? From 1 to 4 in a class you get full... 5 and higher is diminishing returns (much like 3 currently). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Currently 2 is the fullest you want any class to be.. maybe make that 4? From 1 to 4 in a class you get full... 5 and higher is diminishing returns (much like 3 currently). That would actually work really well. If four people could train with a coach without diminishing returns, that essentially doubles the number of people who can train in a gym, and doubles the potential income for gym owners without hurting quality of training. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaston Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 As sorta a new comer, I feel like once you learn the game and create your fighters, your almost at a disadvantage if you even try to train at a private gym. I definitely think change is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabaton Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Have coaches cost less in public gyms and more in private ones. Then public ones wouldnt need 100 fighters to make a buck and the class sizes could be smaller, thus making them viable to run and train in. Private ones should still be better. With the current economic situation, there is likely no easy fix other than to let all vips run a public gym without it costing them a gym slot. Doing that, i am sure you would see quite a few open up, thus giving the general public better training without massive changes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronix Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 I'd be happy to change class size effectiveness / coach skills etc. Not keen on non VIPs owning gyms. I was hoping for a little more info than that. But alright, as you can see the ball is starting to roll. Something will come out of this. Hopefully it will be good enough to run with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Let's allow people to charge 2000$ per week. Double the income means better coaches, more gyms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabaton Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Let's allow people to charge 2000$ per week. Double the income means better coaches, more gyms.Except that noobs cant even afford $1000/wk Would be better to make public gyms half as expensive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coton81 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 I'd be happy to change class size effectiveness / coach skills etc. Not keen on non VIPs owning gyms. Currently 2 is the fullest you want any class to be.. maybe make that 4? From 1 to 4 in a class you get full... 5 and higher is diminishing returns (much like 3 currently).I'd like to see this the higher numbers that can train with a coach without diminishing returns It would b a good start to work from in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Except that noobs cant even afford $1000/wk Would be better to make public gyms half as expensive Noobs would ask more from org owners, org owners would spend more money on people, and orgs wont be the money printers as they are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djparki91 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 I'm a noob (finishing my first month now) I got VIP and opened a gym, after doing so I spoke to quite a few veterans of the game, all explaining how hard it is running gyms (successfully). It is very hard just to get the numbers, and impossible to attract new members with the facilities I can afford. I wouldn't have even got this far without the assistance of the Noob Fund. If anyone fancies helping out a newish manager, come join Parko Ludus Top Team in St Petersburg... Also didn't help that there wasn't a single gym with vacancies in St P when I first opened, now there is about 6!! That's why I rushed into it, thought there was a better market for my gym. Anyway, not sure how releventthis is, but just thought I'd add to the difficulties of starting up a gym, especially as a new player. DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 With a change like this I'd open at least 5, if not 10 slots in my gym. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 FYI, posted this is in improvements forum, please go there and get behind it: http://www.mmatycoon.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=49108 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duphus Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 I'm a noob (finishing my first month now) I got VIP and opened a gym, after doing so I spoke to quite a few veterans of the game, all explaining how hard it is running gyms (successfully). It is very hard just to get the numbers, and impossible to attract new members with the facilities I can afford. I wouldn't have even got this far without the assistance of the Noob Fund. If anyone fancies helping out a newish manager, come join Parko Ludus Top Team in St Petersburg... Also didn't help that there wasn't a single gym with vacancies in St P when I first opened, now there is about 6!! That's why I rushed into it, thought there was a better market for my gym. Anyway, not sure how releventthis is, but just thought I'd add to the difficulties of starting up a gym, especially as a new player. DJ I'm gonna send you 100K to help you keep it open for a while 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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