Qester Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Hello! I was wondering if anyone could explain to me how I can figure out if my fighters are quick learners or are duds? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madness Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 1 training session 1v1 with an elite coach in a skill you did not place any points in. Use a grease monkey script to see how high the skill jumped. 7.2 I believe is the highest it can go in 1 session. Anything over 6 is pretty good. 5-6 is average, and under 5 is pretty terrible. Now, learning speed is not everything. If you test him in a fight and he gets granite chin I would still keep him and just count on spending more time training before he is rounded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwang Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 1 training session 1v1 with an elite coach in a skill you did not place any points in.. ..without involving greasy monkeys, if the skill goes from useless -- to useless - he is a slow learner. If it goes to useless + he is a good learner. If goes to useless ++ he is super fast! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madness Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Or for a specific number you can highlight the skill bar on the skill snapshot page, right click it, and select view source. Multiply the number that comes up by 1.5 ( since skill cap is 150 and that number is a % ). So a completely useless skill would show 1.3 multiplied by 1.5 and you get 1.95. A brand new fighter with no points spent in a skill would have 1.95 in that skill. Scripts are easier, but in their absence you can do that instead. After 1 session you cannot be higher than 7.2 which is only useless +. As far as I am aware you cannot get useless ++ in one session. Don't throw away fighters and VIP time trying to get ++. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornmma1 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 One important piece of advice, in the end it's pretty much about hiddens. Don't sack a fighter because he has bad learning speed if he has good hiddens! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splitm Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 What are hiddens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 What are hiddens? http://www.mmatycoon.info/index.php?title=Fighter_skills#Hidden_Attributes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 i agree with some here -- while its nice to have a fast learner sometimes they end up lacking in other hiddens -- i rather have a medium learner but better other hiddens -- especially with a cap now in place, sure might take an extra in game year for your fighter to catch up but the good hiddens will make up for it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpierrecanada Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 One important piece of advice, in the end it's pretty much about hiddens. Don't sack a fighter because he has bad learning speed if he has good hiddens! I always favor hiddens over learning speed, myself.. But I've never been a great manager so maybe that's why hahaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leland Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 On a side note, what about the commentary of a fight clues you into the hiddens your fighter may have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 The commentary doesn't give you too much, but it can help you figure out the heart for your fighter. For instance, if your guy gets rocked but 3 moves later is says '*** has recovered his senses' etc. his heart is really good, but if he doesn't recover or takes ages to, then his heart hidden is pretty bad. I can't really think of how else the commentary helps with discovering your fighter hiddens though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madness Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Introduction can also say something about your chin sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leland Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Yeah or a solid chin, my guy said he was rocked, not even one move later... sweeped for a takedown. Thats gotta mean something right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdmh74 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 So, in the figures next to fighters skill/learning level...... - next to the numbers means hes not learned much. + means hes learned a bit. ++ means hes learned a lot. Is that correct? Also, what do the numbers in the brackets represent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwang Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 In brackets is the number of weeks since that skill last popped. For the first training session with optimum conditions you are really looking for a change from 1-- to 1+ for normal decent learning speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 So, in the figures next to fighters skill/learning level...... - next to the numbers means hes not learned much. + means hes learned a bit. ++ means hes learned a lot. Is that correct? Also, what do the numbers in the brackets represent? A fighter's skill begins at 1.95, and the --, - , +, ++ is an indicator of where they are between popping the skill. -- means the fighter is between 0-2.49 - means the fighter is between 2.5 - 4.99 + means the fighter is between 5 - 7.49 ++ means the fighter is between 7.5 - 9.99 Learning Speed is the number your fighter moves to in a skill when he starts with 1.95 in it, and trains in perfect conditions (1v1 with an Elite coach, 100% energy, 100% morale). So the best way to do this usually is to have them test the speed in their first training session after being made. The highest your learning speed can be is 7.5, while I have seen as low as 3.5 for it. Most people will look for their fighters to hit at least + after a training session, but if a fighter has good hiddens, having - after a session might not be the end of him. And Bwang is correct in terms of the numbers in the brackets representing how many weeks since they popped in that skill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdmh74 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 So, in the figures next to fighters skill/learning level...... - next to the numbers means hes not learned much. + means hes learned a bit. ++ means hes learned a lot. Is that correct? Also, what do the numbers in the brackets represent? A fighter's skill begins at 1.95, and the --, - , +, ++ is an indicator of where they are between popping the skill. -- means the fighter is between 0-2.49 - means the fighter is between 2.5 - 4.99 + means the fighter is between 5 - 7.49 ++ means the fighter is between 7.5 - 9.99 Learning Speed is the number your fighter moves to in a skill when he starts with 1.95 in it, and trains in perfect conditions (1v1 with an Elite coach, 100% energy, 100% morale). So the best way to do this usually is to have them test the speed in their first training session after being made. The highest your learning speed can be is 7.5, while I have seen as low as 3.5 for it. Most people will look for their fighters to hit at least + after a training session, but if a fighter has good hiddens, having - after a session might not be the end of him. And Bwang is correct in terms of the numbers in the brackets representing how many weeks since they popped in that skill. Thanks guys, much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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