deamon Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 What is the best skill in clinch? Pure punch is enough or knee plus punch ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwang Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 For an MMA fighter punches should be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itakebrides Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 well put it this way a fighter with knees and punches will beat guy with only punches 90% of the time in the clinch (if there clinch value is the same that is)i found that out the hard way a few times..This fight below would be a perfect example of this .It just depends do you what your clinch to be your main offence or not .Since knees can only be used in the clinch you better be sure the clinch will be your main offense since the points spend on knees could be used better else where http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=771661 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniConor Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 well put it this way a fighter with knees and punches will beat guy with only punches 90% of the time in the clinch (if there clinch value is the same that is)i found that out the hard way a few times..This fight below would be a perfect example of this .It just depends do you what your clinch to be your main offence or not .Since knees can only be used in the clinch you better be sure the clinch will be your main offense since the points spend on knees could be used better else where http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=771661 Wait.. what is that link supposed to prove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Wait.. what is that link supposed to prove? He said it is an example of how a fighter with Punches AND Knees will be able to beat a fighter with just Punches inside the clinch I don't agree with that completely, since there are a bunch of factors to include in that (Hiddens, Physicals, Striking Defense, Clinchwork and Primaries). If someone has just Punches, they will be able to beat the opponent with the right factors from those. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madness Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Really it is the first guy to land a body blow all else being equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwang Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 ^ sorry but that is misleading, and wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPowell Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 I don't really see the need for knees unless you are at a very high level. Dirty boxing is plenty good enough at the lower levels. If it isn't then you shouldn't be engaging the guy in the clinch anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 The way I see it, if your guy has no knees then I'll just spam knees in the clinch and you're gonna get knee'd in the face a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEpicity Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 The way I see it, if your guy has no knees then I'll just spam knees in the clinch and you're gonna get knee'd in the face a lot. I honestly do not remember ever losing a fight to a fighter who used knees and most of my fighters specialize in stand up. In fact they usually spent their load trying a bunch of different strikes in the clinch on to get knocked out in the next round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockg Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Gauntlet thrown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPowell Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 How well are your knees going to work against a guy with equal or better clinchwork and elite strike defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEpicity Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 How well are your knees going to work against a guy with equal or better clinchwork and elite strike defense? That's kinda what my point was originally going to be. If you can mess a dude up with knees in the clinch, it most likely means you have better clinchwork and/or primary advantage. If knees are working in the clinch, then your punches most likely would have worked just as well if not better. Obviously in a KT fight it's nice to have those extra and if you're fight a granite chin, elbows may get you a cut tko if you can't knock him out. Haven't heard to support the theory about Knees being needed to defend knees but there has been quite the evidence to the contrary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romano130 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I am not sure about this but using elbows in clinch can be effective right? to score points. I noticed my fighter often loses a round when he gets cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPowell Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I am not sure about this but using elbows in clinch can be effective right? to score points. I noticed my fighter often loses a round when he gets cut. True but clinchwork and strike defense are 2 staples in ANY build so you should be able to negate elbows destroying you if the fighters are close to the same level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProphetX Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I've had a gut feeling about this for years in this game (based mostly on the anti spamming/predictions of take downs) but the more you're able to mix up a fight the better your fighter potentially can be if all stats are similar or equal. Using the clinch as an example: if two fighters match up and have similar stats but one fighter also had solid elbows and/or knees then he'd potentially be in a better position because the fighter would end up expecting the punches in the clinch but the other fighter would have more to contend with and lack the ability to predict what was coming next as accurately. Just my opinion though, It's something I've felt is likely in place for clinchwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romano130 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I've had a gut feeling about this for years in this game (based mostly on the anti spamming/predictions of take downs) but the more you're able to mix up a fight the better your fighter potentially can be if all stats are similar or equal. Using the clinch as an example: if two fighters match up and have similar stats but one fighter also had solid elbows and/or knees then he'd potentially be in a better position because the fighter would end up expecting the punches in the clinch but the other fighter would have more to contend with and lack the ability to predict what was coming next as accurately. Just my opinion though, It's something I've felt is likely in place for clinchwork That is also the way i feel about it. i have about 4 fighters now that i am trying to make MT fighters. So we will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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