aveiro17 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Hi, i wonder how new orgs for the 300k can profit on making contracs such as 5000/4000/4000 an stuff like that, i have went 1/3000/3000 and have lost about 35-60k each of my 4 first events???? or do they just crash after a couple of events?It's funny how 1 month old managers, think thier 18 old 0-0-0 fighters is worth 6k-6k-6k lel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Hi, i wonder how new orgs for the 300k can profit on making contracs such as 5000/4000/4000 an stuff like that, i have went 1/3000/3000 and have lost about 35-60k each of my 4 first events???? or do they just crash after a couple of events? It's funny how 1 month old managers, think thier 18 old 0-0-0 fighters is worth 6k-6k-6k lel They can't, you are bound to make a loss on the first event with the wages fighters get. You just have to sit out the first few events and take the loss, otherwise you won't get any fighters. 5000/4000/4000 is a bit high, but 3000 or 3500 across the board is not out of the question at all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 They can't, you are bound to make a loss on the first event with the wages fighters get. You just have to sit out the first few events and take the loss, otherwise you won't get any fighters. 5000/4000/4000 is a bit high, but 3000 or 3500 across the board is not out of the question at all. This is why I cringe when I see a new fight org opening up in Las Vegas; there is quite a bit of competition for entry level contracts in this city, so the value of such a fighter has been increasing. Anywhere with more low level fight orgs is going to have an increased cost to bring in such fighters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 This is why I cringe when I see a new fight org opening up in Las Vegas; there is quite a bit of competition for entry level contracts in this city, so the value of such a fighter has been increasing. Anywhere with more low level fight orgs is going to have an increased cost to bring in such fighters. Yeah, now that 300k is hit, I see a lot of new managers creating orgs. I honestly only trust two of the 300k org created so far to have any long term potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itakebrides Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 nan the most you can offer guy with no contract and no hype is 1 2000 2000 i if you pla to make money .You Have to cut wages or wait for there hype to go up but freeze wages 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 nan the most you can offer guy with no contract and no hype is 1 2000 2000 i if you pla to make money .You Have to cut wages or wait for there hype to go up but freeze wages You have to have a sack of money stashed away, so you can survive the first few events. No one is signing for 1-2000-2000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Yeah, now that 300k is hit, I see a lot of new managers creating orgs. I honestly only trust two of the 300k org created so far to have any long term potential Knockout FC in Vegas is going to overtake a lot of the lower ranked orgs in the city, I think. They were ranked higher than we are now before they started dropping fighters in favor of this new cap. But, that's all the more reason for young organization owners to stay AWAY from Las Vegas right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Knockout FC in Vegas is going to overtake a lot of the lower ranked orgs in the city, I think. They were ranked higher than we are now before they started dropping fighters in favor of this new cap. But, that's all the more reason for young organization owners to stay AWAY from Las Vegas right now. Knockout FC is one of the few I trust to do well. He's offering really low contracts though, don't know if he'll win the battle for fighters with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted August 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Yeah, now that 300k is hit, I see a lot of new managers creating orgs. I honestly only trust two of the 300k org created so far to have any long term potential i have created the 298k id one, and i only have 3 wc, to get a deep roaster... i hope i have long term potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted August 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 I have 99 fighters so far, it's my first org so i hope i grow with the task.#urban troops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Knockout FC is one of the few I trust to do well. He's offering really low contracts though, don't know if he'll win the battle for fighters with that. I wouldn't call his contracts low at all, at least the one I've been offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 i have created the 298k id one, and i only have 3 wc, to get a deep roaster... i hope i have long term potential. Deep roasters always have potential, I mean we're talking roast chicken,roast beef, roast potato's...perfect. All that aside start up orgs are definitely being out priced at the moment, I know some orgs are giving 18 year olds 5k across the board. There's nothing wrong with that its just a tough market currently. Which means patience an resilience is required to survive. But it isn't impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 All orgs unless they are literally offering peanuts (Case in point, Troid when it was restarted in early 2014 was offering 500/400/600 contracts and as a result managed to profit after 2 events), will make a loss in their first few events. The reason for this is low hype throughout the roster, and low hype on the org starting. As the fighter's hype starts to build, the org's hype will slowly rise also leading to more ticket sales, and more income. A mistake I see orgs make is they will offer huge increases in contracts for fighters even though their value to the org has barely risen. As long as the fighter is covered in their gym fees, they should be fine to keep signing for minuscule increases in pay. I've seen Mickey suggest the low signing bonus suggestion before, and even to date it still doesn't hold any merit as many of the newer managers need the money to keep their fighters in the gym before even fighting. Personally, I've felt 3k/3k/3k is the best way to go about when striking the balance. It gives them the money to keep in a gym until they first compete, while not being overly expensive that it fucks over an org. Many experienced managers will be inclined to sign for cheaper since they are financially safe, and it remains enough to interest a newer manager. There is the argument of "What if people go inactive?", but that is ALWAYS the risk with orgs starting out. That's why people who save up cash to start their org will always be better off than those who impulse start the org with little capital to survive any issues. Just on the subject for your org - You are running 3 events within the space of a week which will cut into your profit margins immediately. The best thing you can do is run 1 event a week, and increase it to 2 per week when your roster is big enough to handle it. On a final note - You had two of your own fighters fight in your org for a title. That could turn off people from signing with you if they see it and take it purely for face value. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 I wouldn't call his contracts low at all, at least the one I've been offered. Could be, I got offered 1-2000-2000, before I renegotiated. I think he's willing to pay more for managers who aren't as likely to go inactive 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted August 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 All orgs unless they are literally offering peanuts (Case in point, Troid when it was restarted in early 2014 was offering 500/400/600 contracts and as a result managed to profit after 2 events), will make a loss in their first few events. The reason for this is low hype throughout the roster, and low hype on the org starting. As the fighter's hype starts to build, the org's hype will slowly rise also leading to more ticket sales, and more income. A mistake I see orgs make is they will offer huge increases in contracts for fighters even though their value to the org has barely risen. As long as the fighter is covered in their gym fees, they should be fine to keep signing for minuscule increases in pay. I've seen Mickey suggest the low signing bonus suggestion before, and even to date it still doesn't hold any merit as many of the newer managers need the money to keep their fighters in the gym before even fighting. Personally, I've felt 3k/3k/3k is the best way to go about when striking the balance. It gives them the money to keep in a gym until they first compete, while not being overly expensive that it fucks over an org. Many experienced managers will be inclined to sign for cheaper since they are financially safe, and it remains enough to interest a newer manager. There is the argument of "What if people go inactive?", but that is ALWAYS the risk with orgs starting out. That's why people who save up cash to start their org will always be better off than those who impulse start the org with little capital to survive any issues. Just on the subject for your org - You are running 3 events within the space of a week which will cut into your profit margins immediately. The best thing you can do is run 1 event a week, and increase it to 2 per week when your roster is big enough to handle it. On a final note - You had two of your own fighters fight in your org for a title. That could turn off people from signing with you if they see it and take it purely for face value. Does it matter how long between the events? i just tried to increase the hype and so of the fighters fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Does it matter how long between the events? i just tried to increase the hype and so of the fighters fast As long as it's 1 week between, it's fine. If the events are within 1 week of each other, the second event will be affected by the ticket sales it receives and the event rating. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toejam98 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 when i started playing this game the going rate for a 0-0 fighters for 3/300/300/300 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted August 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 As long as it's 1 week between, it's fine. If the events are within 1 week of each other, the second event will be affected by the ticket sales it receives and the event rating. Okay thanks for the info! we learn new thing everyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted August 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 when i started playing this game the going rate for a 0-0 fighters for 3/300/300/300 i think it is impossible to sign fighters with that now days... rip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornmma1 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 i think it is impossible to sign fighters with that now days... rip Not really. Multiple veteran managers let their new creations fight completely for free. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveiro17 Posted August 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Not really. Multiple veteran managers let their new creations fight completely for free. yeah, i always look for them! as they dont care about money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CusDamato Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 i have created the 298k id one, and i only have 3 wc, to get a deep roaster... i hope i have long term potential. Glad i seen this, i recently came back to the game and made a stack of projects just before the 300k ID range. Glad there will be somewhere to fight my guys without an ID disadvantage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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