Rambo Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 As a community can we get together all (or at least most) of the former P4P #1 fighters that should be included in the KT Hall of Fame? I'll start. Please add anybody I missed. Thomas Stark Magnus Mamba Rich Aces High Stack Shillings William Bird Qing Kong Antonio Laborina Lim Li Xiaolong Simon Kanitz Giacomo Benvenuti Don Marciano Garson DeBramalo Lorenzo Von Matterhorn Sergei Dimitrovich Sher Sha Suri Ebraham Azhari Milovan Cirkovic ...missing anybody? Jon Hess was #2 KT but never made it to #1... he was 11-0 though. Just think he was roadblocked by my fighter Qing Kong during his run. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theking04 Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Damn CK that is a hell of a list you put together there, makes me wanna bow down to the greatness in this post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Not sure if he was #1 P4P in KT Tommy Grunge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theking04 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Not sure if he was #1 P4P in KT Tommy Grunge Tommy Grunge is a traitor who ran away from KT, fighters like him are one of the big reasons KT is in the shape that it is! You know what, on a lighter note I would like to have seen Grunge vs Cirkovic back in the day, wouldn't be much for Joe to gain from that fight now though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762x39 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Tommy Grunge is a traitor who ran away from KT, fighters like him are one of the big reasons KT is in the shape that it is! You know what, on a lighter note I would like to have seen Grunge vs Cirkovic back in the day, wouldn't be much for Joe to gain from that fight now though! They were in EFFA at the same time right before he left KT, I am surprised they never met up then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theking04 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 They were in EFFA at the same time right before he left KT, I am surprised they never met up then. I'm not surprised 1 bit becuz Cirkovic isn't a can........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted August 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Grunge ducked Qing Kong several times. I don't know if he ever got to #1 though. Kong was pretty much #1 until 11-22-2014 and lost it to Li Xiaolong - who became #1 after defeating Kong. Antonio Laborina Lim and Kong swapped #1 spots by beating each other before Kong lost it to Xiaolong. Kong, Lim, Xiaolong passed back #1 spot around until Simon Kanitz won it from Xiaolong on 11-01-2015. Don't think Grunge ever became #1 p4p KT. He never really beat any KT fighters with even the slightest bit of hype iirc. William Bird ?/?/? - 7/28/13 Kong 7/28/13 - 7/11/14 Lim 7/11/14 - 10/17/14 Kong 10/17/14 - 11/22/14 Xiaolong 11/22/14 - 2/28/15 Lim 2/28/15 - 3/15/15 Xiaolong 3/15/15 - 7/04/15 Lim 7/04/15 - 7/18/15 Azhari 7/18/15 - 8/08/15 Xiaolong 8/08/15 - 11/01/15 Kanitz 11/01/15 - 6/11/2016 (he went to MMA, still remained p4p #1 for awhile @ KT) Azhari ??? the bold was 100% how the P4P #1 KT fighter was swapped around during that time. I think Sergei Dimitrovich might of took it sometime during Xiaolong's 3/15 - 7/04 reign, but lost it when Marciano beat him. Then Marciano became #1 P4P KT fighter on 9/04/2015 and retired #1 P4P KT fighter in game at the time. I think he reached it before that around July or June, but was very brief til Kanitz won his next fight. I think Matterhorn became #1 P4P on 3/08/15 when he TKO Head kicked Marciano then he lost it on 4/04/15 to Sergei Dimitrovich. Then Sergei got TKO'd by Marciano on 5/09/15. Timeline gets a little rough trying to figure out who had most hype at what times, but I know after the Bird - Kong - Lim - Kong - Xiaolong reigns @ #1 P4P, it kind of got swapped around by Xiaolong, Lim, Matterhorn, Marciano, Dimitrovich, Azhari, then Simon Kanitz came along an took #1 p4p KT for a while. There's a chance Grunge's name was in there somewhere, but I personally don't recall it being #1. I remember him declining matchup vs Qing Kong and moving up a w/c and specifically being known as a pussy who wouldn't take any fight that was close on paper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpierrecanada Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Grunge has always been the same as "Snake the Pendelum" from back in the old days. Grunge is still a hand picking quacker. Duck duck duck duck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyGrunge Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 I can't recall 100% but I am pretty certain Grunge was #1 KT for a brief period. It's been over 2 years since I fought KT with him though so I'm not positive. I think the discussion here has gotten off track however. I don't think we need to debate whether or not Grunge should be in the KT HOF. I think the real discussion that needs to take place is whether we should name the KT HOF after him or not? Tommy Grunge KT Hall of Fame ... Has a nice ring to it. Anyways, what are your guys thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 I can't recall 100% but I am pretty certain Grunge was #1 KT for a brief period. It's been over 2 years since I fought KT with him though so I'm not positive. I think the discussion here has gotten off track however. I don't think we need to debate whether or not Grunge should be in the KT HOF. I think the real discussion that needs to take place is whether we should name the KT HOF after him or not? Tommy Grunge KT Hall of Fame ... Has a nice ring to it. Anyways, what are your guys thoughts? Duck Duck Goose now has a Hall of Fame attached to it? I know Bob had a bunch of fighters near the top of the KT rankings Abe Lievin ^ I'm pretty sure I saw him Ranked #1 at some stage. I'll ask Bob to jump in and give some insight since he pretty much ran KT single handedly for a long part of it's history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted August 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 I'm pretty sure Abe Levin was #1 at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbob Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 I know Azahri and Lievin where #1 Also cant comment on the Grundge Fighter he cherry picked and just wanted a good record. I think this guy might have been #1 as well, but please check i am just flighing over names if i remember them as #1 "The Beast" Hank McCoy after matterhorn, Kanitz was a shit long while #1 even after he left , then Chris found the right guys, switched around a bit and then my guy hold a long while. Dont know what happend the last 3 month tho. But i think all in all you got them. Of course i cant speak to the times before my time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted August 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 I know Azahri and Lievin where #1 Also cant comment on the Grundge Fighter he cherry picked and just wanted a good record. I think this guy might have been #1 as well, but please check i am just flighing over names if i remember them as #1 "The Beast" Hank McCoy after matterhorn, Kanitz was a shit long while #1 even after he left , then Chris found the right guys, switched around a bit and then my guy hold a long while. Dont know what happend the last 3 month tho. But i think all in all you got them. Of course i cant speak to the times before my time. Mostly Estefan's guys were #1 KT in the beginning. Thomas Stark, James Jones, Stack Shillings. Then Rich Aces High when he beat one of them. Big upset at the time. I know the time frame around when Bird was dominant because Kong was the first fighter to beat him and take #1 spot. Obviously remember who Kong lost to, and so on. Could be missing a guy or two but overall I think pretty good job getting most of them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornmma1 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Kanitz was awesome. He was killing everyone in KT and then I asked Mihail if he wanted to come over to Syn after he showed interest in MMA. He did great and nearly won the 185lbs belt. Great manager and great fighter, those were fun times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Kanitz is the KT GOAT. DeBramalo a distant #2, would have been #1 if I had kept him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762x39 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Kanitz is the KT GOAT. DeBramalo a distant #2, would have been #1 if I had kept him. You are probably right. Cirkovic is pretty tough and the one time they fought Kanitz whipped him every round before KOing him in the 4th. Even whipped him in the clinch. Guys sometimes beat him in one or the other, but Kanitz is only one I can think of that really whipped him the whole fight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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