Guest Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 And yes I didn't know you have some weird fantasy way of running your org, my bad. We could of settled this easily but you chose to get up on your high horse thinking that you're some sort of internet gangster instead. I wasn't aggressive to you in anyway up until you sent me offensive inboxes and blocked me. I came to the forum because I had no way to contact you and now look, everybody is calling your bullshit. Send me proper fight offers and I'll stfu. Or release my guys and I'll block you and we will be done. Seconded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcool Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 As a sidenote...he's holding http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=315058 hostage as well, I only took the fight because I want him to avenge his loss. If it was another fight, I would've declined and just rode out the contract. I have no issues not fighting for a while and training up my fighter =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsieur.Camara Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 We all know you and grumpy are butt buddies but stop defending your boyfriend. My guy has no good hiddens? Maybe not but all four of his fights have come by way of stoppage with 3 being knockouts. Very fair fight? Yeah, not really. I got another can to crush with a shit p4p rating and 0 fights Vs my 4 - 0 record and a 7000 p4p rating difference.. Everything grumpy says is bullshit. He said he'd never hold a fighter hostage yet here we are. He said he only had his fighters in to fill cards which is also a lie and everyone or should I say almost everyone knows it. My guy and everyone else in that org would be much better off in Cage Colosseum. The true premier 310k-320k organization. I've been very respectful to you trying to educate you. Not sure why you are so mad. P4P does not matter at this point. The absolute top of the division you said? No, my guy is the only guy at the top: http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=312691 You haven't even fought the tough managers this division has to offer. You fought 2 guys with their points spread out too much (incorrect creations) and 1 retired guy. Your entry fight at Peterhof was your first semi-difficult fight but believe me everyone in the top 10 crushes your guy. You are complaining about Grumpy giving Cojones Crusher a title fight against my guy when he was 5-0? Look at the guys he fought. Pure talent (that includes you Alex). He totally earned that title fight and I had already cleaned up the top of the division so I was happy to accept his challenge. I fucking retired his arse and no hard feelings. Or do you want to pull an Alex K. move, run to another easier org and fight cans like: http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=321155 Sorry but you guys are ridiculous. Facts are facts and you guys can chase Hype, P4P or whatever makes you tick all you want but I see 150+ managers happy and competing and a few guys complaining. Bone I challenge you to win a fight or 2 and try your luck at my belt. I am 7-0 (That CK Cbomb win had my sliders settings) since I picked Steve up and am not going anywhere. I mean if you guys don't play for the challenge I just don't get you. Learn from Rob Roy and http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=319004 we have a bit of a fun rivalry going and he retired Donald Trump. I'm gonna make his ass great again in our rematch He learns fast and Steve learns slow so we are pretty evenly matched. Gonna be a war. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 I've been very respectful to you trying to educate you. Not sure why you are so mad. P4P does not matter at this point. The absolute top of the division you said? No, my guy is the only guy at the top: http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=312691 You haven't even fought the tough managers this division has to offer. You fought 2 guys with their points spread out too much (incorrect creations) and 1 retired guy. Your entry fight at Peterhof was your first semi-difficult fight but believe me everyone in the top 10 crushes your guy. You are complaining about Grumpy giving Cojones Crusher a title fight against my guy when he was 5-0? Look at the guys he fought. Pure talent (that includes you Alex). He totally earned that title fight and I had already cleaned up the top of the division so I was happy to accept his challenge. I fucking retired his arse and no hard feelings. Or do you want to pull an Alex K. move, run to another easier org and fight cans like: http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=321155 Sorry but you guys are ridiculous. Facts are facts and you guys can chase Hype, P4P or whatever makes you tick all you want but I see 150+ managers happy and competing and a few guys complaining. Bone I challenge you to win a fight or 2 and try your luck at my belt. I am 7-0 (That CK Cbomb win had my sliders settings) since I picked Steve up and am not going anywhere. I mean if you guys don't play for the challenge I just don't get you. Learn from Rob Roy and http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=319004 we have a bit of a fun rivalry going and he retired Donald Trump. I'm gonna make his ass great again in our rematch He learns fast and Steve learns slow so we are pretty evenly matched. Gonna be a war. I don't have time to reply to all that lol but what I will say is that the fact you say my fairest fight is my FASTEST finish where my opponent did absolutely nothing just goes to show that you have no idea what a fair fight even looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsieur.Camara Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 I don't have time to reply to all that lol but what I will say is that the fact you say my fairest fight is my FASTEST finish where my opponent did absolutely nothing just goes to show that you have no idea what a fair fight even looks like. I don't quite understand your point, you want harder fights? You have: Jesus: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=319004 Corban: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=310664 Dale: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=312248 Ohanian: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=311225 Reid: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=311976 Crusher: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=315167 Tim: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=314621 Chavez: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=310005 And that is just to name a few. Jesus, Corban and Chavez 100% beat your guy. Ohanian too. Of course you don't have time to answer , maybe you are too busy stealing other people's avatars and trying to get out of a stacked division. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 I don't quite understand your point, you want harder fights? You have: Jesus: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=319004 Corban: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=310664 Dale: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=312248 Ohanian: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=311225 Reid: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=311976 Crusher: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=315167 Tim: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=314621 Chavez: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=310005 And that is just to name a few. Jesus, Corban and Chavez 100% beat your guy. Ohanian too. Of course you don't have time to answer , maybe you are too busy stealing other people's avatars and trying to get out of a stacked division. I'll take Jesus Sanchez SET IT UP if he beats you and I win the belt I'll honor it and sign again after I win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsieur.Camara Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 I don't work at the org man. You gotta talk it out with Grumps and fight your way into relevance to earn a shot. It's like that everywhere. The point of my posts and facts is that the division is stacked. If you want the top fights you just gotta earn them 1 win at a time and make it work with the org owner. It's like that everywhere. Are you familiar with the UFC? Dana White is not the easiest guy to get along with but no doubt his org is the best in the world. Good luck, if he blocked you maybe you can post your public apology here and I will make sure to direct him back to the thread and you guys can take it from there. Grumps has joined #heritage too so maybe Humors can help you as mediator. Good luck, happy we could dispel this whole P4P nonsense at 310K 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revheat Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I have no issues with PFC and always felt the fights were fair enough. It is a pretty stacked division. I have a former Champ while in RBB http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=313135 but he has been taking some licks since everyone moved to PFC. Despite whether you like grumps or agree with him, managers that have their own idea what is a good of matchup just make things harder for the org owner. Everybody has their own opinions and it's impossible to cater to everyone. If you offer to return the signing bonus I dont know why he wouldn't release. He has done it for my fighters before.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasman Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I don't work at the org man. You gotta talk it out with Grumps and fight your way into relevance to earn a shot. It's like that everywhere. The point of my posts and facts is that the division is stacked. If you want the top fights you just gotta earn them 1 win at a time and make it work with the org owner. It's like that everywhere. Are you familiar with the UFC? Dana White is not the easiest guy to get along with but no doubt his org is the best in the world. Good luck, if he blocked you maybe you can post your public apology here and I will make sure to direct him back to the thread and you guys can take it from there. Grumps has joined #heritage too so maybe Humors can help you as mediator. Good luck, happy we could dispel this whole P4P nonsense at 310K The P4P difference of the fighter, means almost everything. If there is a large p4p deficit against you, you gain almost nothing with the win.. If there is a large p4p benefit for you, you gain a LOT with the win. This applies to both you as a manager and your fighter. Doesnt matter whether it 1k v 10k fighter or a 100k vs a 200k fighter. Guys, youre not "tough" by sending your "Random number generated" bit based "high p4p fighter, against a low p4p fighter",, only "stupid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeF Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 The P4P difference of the fighter, means almost everything. If there is a large p4p deficit against you, you gain almost nothing with the win.. If there is a large p4p benefit for you, you gain a LOT with the win. This applies to both you as a manager and your fighter. Doesnt matter whether it 1k v 10k fighter or a 100k vs a 200k fighter. Guys, youre not "tough" by sending your "Random number generated" bit based "high p4p fighter, against a low p4p fighter",, only "stupid" This. Matchmakers should take hype into consideration if they want to book fair fights. There is absolutely no point for a 500 p4p fighter to fight a 5000 p4p one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 The P4P difference of the fighter, means almost everything. If there is a large p4p deficit against you, you gain almost nothing with the win.. If there is a large p4p benefit for you, you gain a LOT with the win. This applies to both you as a manager and your fighter. Doesnt matter whether it 1k v 10k fighter or a 100k vs a 200k fighter. Guys, youre not "tough" by sending your "Random number generated" bit based "high p4p fighter, against a low p4p fighter",, only "stupid" Absolutely agree and this is what grumpy fails to understand. It doesn't even make sense for an org to run like his does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTree Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 This. Matchmakers should take hype into consideration if they want to book fair fights. There is absolutely no point for a 500 p4p fighter to fight a 5000 p4p one. Fighters with closer hype/pop fights benefits the org in the long run as well 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revheat Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I agree its ideal but some managers will complain about a hype difference one week, the next week they decline a fight because the of the primary difference and the following week its because the ID difference is too large then they dont like the p4p difference.... What if after a ufc win and fighters response to whats next was always. I want to fight a top ranked fighter, that hasnt been traing as long as me or not a skilled as me, with a minumum of 3 consecutive wins but not wins by submission because i dont like fighting ground guys. Oh and he needs to be a really really popular fighter.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeF Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I agree its ideal but some managers will complain about a hype difference one week, the next week they decline a fight because the of the primary difference and the following week its because the ID difference is too large then they dont like the p4p difference.... What if after a ufc win and fighters response to whats next was always. I want to fight a top ranked fighter, that hasnt been traing as long as me or not a skilled as me, with a minumum of 3 consecutive wins but not wins by submission because i dont like fighting ground guys. Oh and he needs to be a really really popular fighter.... Yeah, ofc there are assholes on the both sides. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsieur.Camara Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 The current situation at 310K is that we lack orgs and fighters. I tried picking up a second 310k fighter for months to fight him at Kings FC when Ikki gave it a shot to revive him but it was impossible. In an ideal world where tons of people are playing this game , orgs + divisions are full then yes of course we would look at P4P but the reality of MMAT in 2018 is that 290K & 310K are barren. You are lucky to get a fight every 30 days on any of the few remaining orgs at these IDs, if managers start getting picky it complicates things even more. For big orgs with maxed out fighters yes 100% P4P has to be taken into consideration but right now beggars cannot be choosers unfortunately. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pababear Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 not only is he a creepy old grumpy guy nicknamed hotwheels but now this poor fella is obviously experiencing the beginning stages of Alzheimers..which when you look at all the recent incoherent outbursts and his wild and illogical claims towards anyone he has a slight disagreement with or he just doesnt like, and then to hear about his matchmaking system it just adds supporting evidence to the Alzheimers theory. But even with all the negativity and hostility he expresses towards a large number of managers on a regular basis could not keep this years #1 new manager away and at the mentor/mentee level of friendship. Ibrafuck is his cheerleader, hype man, personal sex object and caretaker tbh actually impressive he finds the time to do it all 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsieur.Camara Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 not only is he a creepy old grumpy guy nicknamed hotwheels but now this poor fella is obviously experiencing the beginning stages of Alzheimers..which when you look at all the recent incoherent outbursts and his wild and illogical claims towards anyone he has a slight disagreement with or he just doesnt like, and then to hear about his matchmaking system it just adds supporting evidence to the Alzheimers theory. But even with all the negativity and hostility he expresses towards a large number of managers on a regular basis could not keep this years #1 new manager away and at the mentor/mentee level of friendship. Ibrafuck is his cheerleader, hype man, personal sex object and caretaker tbh actually impressive he finds the time to do it all you've obviously never seen anyone with Alzheimer's or you would not be making fun of it. It's a really sad disease. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 The P4P difference of the fighter, means almost everything. If there is a large p4p deficit against you, you gain almost nothing with the win.. If there is a large p4p benefit for you, you gain a LOT with the win. This applies to both you as a manager and your fighter. Doesnt matter whether it 1k v 10k fighter or a 100k vs a 200k fighter. Guys, youre not "tough" by sending your "Random number generated" bit based "high p4p fighter, against a low p4p fighter",, only "stupid Exactly, I however don't have much choice it's either accept shit fights and get the hell out or don't accept shit fights be stuck in the organization because all I'm offered are shit fights and be forced to release my fighter because he's a piece of shit who refuses to release my fighter. Hell, I even offered 60k to release him but he still refused simply because he's a prick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revheat Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Exactly, I however don't have much choice it's either accept shit fights and get the hell out or don't accept shit fights be stuck in the organization because all I'm offered are shit fights and be forced to release my fighter because he's a piece of shit who refuses to release my fighter. Hell, I even offered 60k to release him but he still refused simply because he's a prick. My guess is you must have pissed him off before offering the 60k. His name is Grumpy after all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I took $1/$1/$1 contracts to help the org while starting out but he is still holding them hostage after offering to release them.......the guy is a feeble minded gutless simpleton (mike gives zero fucks though so he will just keep getting away with it) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 My guess is you must have pissed him off before offering the 60k. His name is Grumpy after all By asking him nicely to release my fighter and offering more than my fighter is currently worth to be released? Yeah now that you say that you're probably right. There were no prior engagements outside of signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseppe Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 I have to be honest i had a back & forth with Grumpy once & he was very helpful. I rejected a fight he asked why & i said i needed abit more time to train, he said your guy could do with some solid training & i agreed that he could so i said 3 months is ok right?, the next time i logged on my fighter was released lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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