Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 All i know is that im done creating companies!!! i suck at it!! Hey Mike maybe you should add a category on the ranks list.. "most horrible manager" at least im good at that...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMATycoon Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Oh dear, not good to hear OK, to open up a can of worms, is perhaps having 1 company per user the most sensible solution? What we'd do with the people who have 2 I don't know. Maybe just let them keep them but it seems to me that perhaps this is the most sensible solution??? 1 company plus an alliance actually.... It doesn't matter how many alliances we have. I think what I'd probably do is give people who have 2 companies the option to give one up and get e.g. 6 months free VIP, including clearing any operating loss they might currently have (because obviously the company wouldn't have matured yet). Or if they want to keep them they can, at least for the period of their current VIP. In general though this does seem a good solution to me for excessive companies within the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 booooooooooooooooooooooooooo.......................! I strongly dislike this idea. It might be because I have a successful company and have been patiently waiting for some of the new companies before starting another though.. Either way I dislike the cap. Maybe limit each vip to one loan? That would mean that their second company would need to get its startup costs from the profits of their first company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoothSlayer Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 How about in a similar way to supplements, the company could hire a marketing expert of X hidden skill level, which may or may not be any good. They then charge whatever they like to the fighter. It's then down to the managers to determine who is doing a good job. Open to ideas on this one. I think it's a bit too thin to have as a proper company unless we can think of other things to add to it. I could also involve getting the fighter on the front page or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I think VIPers should own 2 companies, but not 2 of the same type. No oen should own 2 organizations, or 2 clothing companies, etc. I know you have a hotel, but it would be nice if you can make like a travel agency so we can get our fighters to certain destinations cheaper, and in the future competition will be greater cause popular/really hyped fighters won't be stuck in one base in which they can only choose from 4 or 5 organizations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I want 2 companies, just waiting for more to come up, cause I need more to do in this game but it is getting a little crazy in Vegas now, lots of new ORGS that are popping up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMATycoon Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I know you all want more than one company but I'm not sure it's feasable. I'm sure you realise that if I could let you have 5 each then I would because I want to give VIPs as much stuff as possible to play with. It's whether it's going to cause carnage though when we have thousands of members. Bottom line is that we can't let things turn into a farse with thousands of companies. There are already too many fight organizations. How do we stop that? Maybe we can have a 2 tiered system. Gyms and Orgs are worth 2 points. Other companies are worth 1. If you create an org or a gym you can have a 1 point company too but your VIP goes down faster?? Bottom line though - we've got to do something about this because it's getting out of hand already and it's better to deal with it now than in a month or so when there are thousands of people affected. Another possible suggestion = Company points Gym = 2 points Org = 2 points Clothing = 1 point Nutrition = 1 point Alliance = 1 points Future companies probably all 1 point If you have 1 point then your VIP goes down slower than normal (14% slower/1 extra day per week). If you have 2 points then the VIP goes down at the current speed If you have 3 points your VIP goes down faster than current rate (14% faster/1 less day per week). You can have a max of 2 companies OR 3 points. Again, I know you all want to have as much freedom and as many companies as possible but surely it's better to run one company that actually has a point to it rather than 2 that dont, because there is an uncontrollable amount of competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I support the concept of allowing just one company per VIP user. I think it's the best course of action for the long-term sustainability of the game, regardless of if it isn't popular. I think it's a necessary move due to the number of companies being created already at this limited level and also because managers having two orgs could conceivably lead to some inappropriate behaviour btween the two. It may not be a decision people like, but it's the best course of action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMATycoon Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Just to confirm one thing quickly. You can't have more than one of the same type of company already. That's been a constraint since the start. I'd like everyone's feedback on this fairly quickly actually because I would like to get a plan of action into place fairly soon. And we can implement more than one measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setsuna Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I know I haven't been a longtime member, but I'm okay with that proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Another possible suggestion = Company points Gym = 2 points Org = 2 points Clothing = 1 point Nutrition = 1 point Alliance = 1 points Future companies probably all 1 point If you have 1 point then your VIP goes down slower than normal (14% slower/1 extra day per week). If you have 2 points then the VIP goes down at the current speed If you have 3 points your VIP goes down faster than current rate (14% faster/1 less day per week). You can have a max of 2 companies OR 3 points. I vote Yes for the above proposal. I think this sounds good except I think you missed 0 Points. I personally only have VIP so that I can have 10 fighters. I don't have any interest or time for a company. Of course I might look into being a bookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyFin Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 im all for one company per person. i just took a nap and 5 new "fighting championchip(s)" popped up . but i think 2 companies for one person should be an option also, though only reachable under "tough conditions" ... like paying for a year, or being a trusted longtime-member. the "elite" of the "vips" should have the privilge of being allowed to run 2 companies if theyd like to. thatd be a way to go about this problem. i dont think raising vip-costs a bit for 2 companies would solve much. vip is too cheap for that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 When the game goes live and a lot of people join, are you planning to add more cities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMATycoon Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Oooh... I like the idea of 1 company first off and then 1 more after a year or something like that. Or maybe one more after you get your first company into profit? Or a combination of the 2. And yeah, we'll add more cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I wholeheartedly support one company per VIP. I was thinking about starting up a clothing company but really that would only have been to further fund my org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyFin Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 turning a company into being profitable is achieved too quickly imo. you need one tough condition, or even better a couple tough conditions. with the goal in mind that a handfull of users will create a second company every now and then. id say something like: subscribing to long term VIP (6-12 months, id go for 12). as a second condition then maybe: having played the game for id say 3 months or so. if a user signs up for a year and is playing activly for about 3 months id say he should have the option for a second company as its safe to say he comits to the game and surely knows how things run by then, so the users wholl get the second company can be trusted (somewhat, no systems perfect ). the ultimate way to limit the users having 2 companies would be if you handpick the "elites" of the "vips" but i dont think ud want that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleventhsun Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 OK, so I don't want too many companies, especially ones created by people who are just doing it so they feel they "get the most out of VIP", so I had an idea yesterday. You can have a max of 2 companies already. How about if I give out an extra 1 day per week VIP to people who don't have a company? So e.g. every Friday it has a look to see if you have a company or not and if you don't then it gives you 1 free day VIP, so 14.3% extra free, which is 50 days free per year. Maybe even give 0.5 days free per week to people with only 1 company too. Does that sound like a good idea to prevent excessive company creations? you could cap of the amount of orgs there are per city...And when eventually some go under, new ones should be able to be proposed to the admin or something. Sort of an extra bit of realism. I think with the clothing companies and such, it really shouldn't matter, because if people are actually designing different gear, than it could be ok to have lots of clothing stores, in the real world there are many many stores, but not like 50 or more fight orgs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 it seems like some ORGs are already killing themselves but I guess if you can't read, then it would be hard to run anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 and I like the time thing, like if you are a proven member and have the best interest of the game in mind, then you should be able to open a second company after some months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 and I like the time thing, like if you are a proven member and have the best interest of the game in mind, then you should be able to open a second company after some months I agree with this one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 How would you work the media company in terms of what the company owner would do to make them a better media organization than any of the others? Photographers & Writers - quality, cost and number of employees move up in the same way as coaches. The more employees have, the more events you can cover...also work in a travel cost. Advertising - give the other gyms, clothing, arenas, orgs and supplement companies a place to boost their hype/pop or advertise a show. Media outlets - work your way up through internet sites, radio, print and TV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMATycoon Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Frenchy, that's more of the theory behind it, what's difficult with stuff like that is how you actually put it into practice. What would the agency actually DO in the game... i.e. if you run one, what do you DO? Like what button do you click, what number do you put where? I just can't see a way to make it work. Not saying it can't just saying I can't think of a way to make it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnan Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Allow VIP's to make "Spa's" --At a Spa, fighters can go and get rest for a "Costly price" before a fight(Ice baths, massages) instead of having to wait to regain energy. -- VIP's can charge there own amount to use spa's have to hire spa' specialists, so similar to Gym, (upkeep of equipment ect) Maybe allow VIP's to make "Public Dietician's" to help your fighter gain weight/ cut weight (over periods of time)That way fighters can change weight classes-I know there will be supplements comming up soon, but this could be a just a little bit faster (if the fighter can afford it) to cut/gain weight , Doctors offices? Fighters can pay to have there injuries healed? (Fighter can go to a doctor's office/Clinic spend certain amount of time healing, and depending on the quality of the doctor take few days cut/injury off, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMATycoon Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Yep, you're all slowly but surely working your way through my hidden list of "to do" companies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGuy Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I run 2 orgs and would be very sad(Not Happy)if I had to give one up.I just started to see a little profit in both and they are both still very new.I think the point system is not a great idea ether,mostly because I'm a 4.I think the best idea is new cities ASAP.But I know that will not stop the uprise of orgs and gyms ect,but it will by time for other businesses.Also on that note I remember on judo you said something about seminars for judo I think that is a great idea for a org.Gyms pay you to come in and train there fighters for some stat boost and a couple of new moves in the fight game.Moves you can only get by going to the seminar, Gyms with the most seminars will probably have the most fighters.Also it will give gym owners more options.and I would gladly pay for one year for both my orgs I was planing on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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