Paradigm Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I wonder if the judges can even tell cageside? I noticed a fair amount of his blitz's weren't connecting and Mousasi was actually countering him pretty well during some of them. Mousasi might've taken that second round before the headkick landed imo. Not the best scrap around but pretty par for a Machida fight. Mousasi said it best Lyoto was just a step ahead all night. Couldn't match his speed and just wound up chasing him for 25 mins. It's funny how some people accuse other fighters of "running" but Machida gets mad respect for being elusive and exploding from time to time. You could almost argue his style should be causng him to dropmore decisions as his opponents are generally the ones seemingly looking to engage where Machida is backing away and circling a lot of the time. Machida vs Jacare should be the next #1 contender fight but I don't think they'll fight each other. Also props to Carmont for not tapping to the choke in the first I think it was, that was deep. He has dropped some decisions because of his style. Rampage, Phil Davis... Mous should have won on chin alone. Also, it's funny that mous actually out struck him. Though machida had the more significant shots.. on the other hand, mous had more ''control of the pace''. I'd really have to go back and score it round by round to tell who I thought won. But at the time, I had machida winning. I don't think that chin is part of the scoring criteria... no, that's not octogon control. machida was going side to side the whole fight, it's not like gegard kept getting him against the cage. Mousasi just kept following him like a dog...though, in his defense, it's hard to cut a guy off that has superior footwork and speed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 He has dropped some decisions because of his style. Rampage, Phil Davis... I don't think that chin is part of the scoring criteria... Mousasi just kept following him like a dog...though, in his defense, it's hard to cut a guy off that has superior footwork and speed. Yup he has. That's why I said drop more decisions. He has 11 decision wins as opposed to those 2 losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I generally hate watching Machida when he fights like Machida (in other words counter fighting and running around). I also hate when he is consistently feinting and clowning around. I think he deserved the win, but i still do not like watching him. I also think that he could be a problem for Weidman because he hits and moves a lot and i am not sure Weidman can close the distance, we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Well. Machida's foot is fucked up :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I'll leave this gem. http://blog.fightmetric.com/2014/02/machida-vs-mousasi-official-ufc.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Well. Machida's foot is fucked up :/ 6 months, he better hope that x-ray shows them enough to change their minds..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VladTheImpaler Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I'll leave this gem. http://blog.fightmetric.com/2014/02/machida-vs-mousasi-official-ufc.html Clearly Mousasi won. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 I'll leave this gem. http://blog.fightmetric.com/2014/02/machida-vs-mousasi-official-ufc.html Clearly Mousasi won. did you guys bother to click on Decision/TPR? ill leave this gem...clearly Mousasi won lol: http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s568/ParadigmMT/MachidavsMousasi_zps74478754.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VladTheImpaler Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 did you guys bother to click on Decision/TPR? ill leave this gem...clearly Mousasi won lol: http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s568/ParadigmMT/MachidavsMousasi_zps74478754.png Did you check how Mousasi did land a lot more strikes than Lyoto in almost every round? Looking at these stats I even think Mousasi won round 3 so only round I would score for Lyoto was 5. This fight looked the same as Diaz vs Condid just that Mousasi landed more strikes then Lyoto. Look up the internet the aggressiveness and the octagon control is also a part of the judging criteria so if you put that in the picture you have to understand why did he win the fight. If you don't know how the fight should be judged there is a good link for you. http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/ufc-judging-criteria-nsac-640304/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce7 Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Fight is already over with. It's almost been a week. Machida won, Mousasi lost........argument over. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VladTheImpaler Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Fight is already over with. It's almost been a week. Machida won, Mousasi lost........argument over. I understand fight is over but I just wanted to explain how the judging is these days. Guys backs up for 25min lands 4 times less strikes and throws the same but he can win a fight because of 1 head kick where Mousasi didn't even notice that it landed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Did you check how Mousasi did land a lot more strikes than Lyoto in almost every round? Looking at these stats I even think Mousasi won round 3 so only round I would score for Lyoto was 5. This fight looked the same as Diaz vs Condid just that Mousasi landed more strikes then Lyoto. Look up the internet the aggressiveness and the octagon control is also a part of the judging criteria so if you put that in the picture you have to understand why did he win the fight. If you don't know how the fight should be judged there is a good link for you. http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/ufc-judging-criteria-nsac-640304/ you should send that link to the judges, not me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymon123 Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 I see lyoto's oponent always control the octagon. Lyoto just keep backing and timing when he'll strike. That's why it always look like boring to watch; but the guy is one of the best and in my opinion, Lyoto won 3 rounds of this fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eveas Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Honestly, the fans lost. It was a boring fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 I see lyoto's oponent always control the octagon. Lyoto just keep backing and timing when he'll strike. That's why it always look like boring to watch; but the guy is one of the best and in my opinion, Lyoto won 3 rounds of this fight. That's called fighting smart. If you always rush forward you'll eventually make a mistake and get KO'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Lol i cant believe this is still an argument,hell GSP's last fight didnt get this much tycoon world discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Lol i cant believe this is still an argument,hell GSP's last fight didnt get this much tycoon world discussion probably weren't as many trolls in that discussion??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 probably weren't as many trolls in that discussion??? Lol more were present for Bones Gustaffson though, cant wait to hear the rousey/mcmann argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VladTheImpaler Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Lol more were present for Bones Gustaffson though, cant wait to hear the rousey/mcmann argument Gustafson lost that fight 2-3. Rousey/Macmann was a early stoppage but Ronda would won it anyway. Mousasi won 1 2 4. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Gustafson lost that fight 2-3. Rousey/Macmann was a early stoppage but Ronda would won it anyway. Mousasi won 1 2 4. I agree with everything except mousasi lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eveas Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Lol more were present for Bones Gustaffson though, cant wait to hear the rousey/mcmann argument It was a great fight up until that knee. Herb Dean jumped in way too fast. It would have been nice to see if she recovered or not, but he was jumping in before her knee hit the ground. Up to that point it was living up to the hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 It was a great fight up until that knee. Herb Dean jumped in way too fast. It would have been nice to see if she recovered or not, but he was jumping in before her knee hit the ground. Up to that point it was living up to the hype. true and his stoppage in the Pyle/Waldburger fight was criminal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK47 Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 true and his stoppage in the Pyle/Waldburger fight was criminal... i think herb did good in that one. pyle even said he didn't think waldburger was done until he flattened him out when he had his back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VladTheImpaler Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 i think herb did good in that one. pyle even said he didn't think waldburger was done until he flattened him out when he had his back If only the fight would been stopped when he was flattened out. He did landed few more strikes and elbows after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Gus won. Hendricks won. Machida won. Herb's stoppage was fine. Hail Satan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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