Guest Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Between the GOAT HW/LHW threads and the best fighter never to reach number one, I decided to come up with a list of the 50 best fighters in the game's history. I based my list on several factors: 1) historical significance of the fighter; 2) quality of wins; 3) highest rank; and 4) record. I'm sure there were other factors too. This is the list I came up with so far. The list, by the way, is in no particular order, and isn't yet complete. I'd love for other people to go through and come up with their own lists as a fun exercise to bring the forums back to what they were and what they should be again!Again, this list is in no particular order! The numbers are there simply to keep count.1. Jigoro Kane2. Fidel Puno3. YB Sol4. Jin Sen5. Jesus Gonzalez6. Jeremy Tonal7. Golden Glory8. Hakuin Ekaku9. Abayo Bokhari10. Bubba Killsinwater11. Jafar Agrabah12. Waldorf Astoria13. Lucas Lunar14. Johnny Cage15. Victor Creed16. Manu Okoro17. Cee Digits18. Snake the Pendulum19. Aloha Hoi20. Merrimac Mjolnir21. Arthur Meighan22. Shock N Awe23. Don Marciano24. Otso Jokinen25. Iiro Tolonen26. Boba Fett27. Manny Baddabing28. Clint Lomax29. Bomb Squad30. Gristle McThornbody31. Kyle Carlton32. Christian Slaughter33. Sam Hall34. Tor Nansen35. Milo Phillips36. Pete Doherty37. Sinuhe Egyptian 38. Taj al Din 39. Remy Lebeau 40. Noriyuki Nayoui 41. Kauko Partio 42. Carl Creel 43. James Bomb 44. Rinky spider 45. Bowser Stormcrow 46. Pat McDermot 47. Scotty Bennet 48. Ryo Narushima 49. Dustin Dougles 50. Smokudju Womba 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 How the hell can you have a list and not have Womba on it? He's beaten many big names and definitely has been one of the most dominant LHW's in recent times.  Edit:  6. Jeremy Tonal 38. Taj al Din 48. Ryo Narushima  Womba has beaten 3 people on this list and easily deserves a place in the top 20 at least. I'd really push for him to be in the top 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 How the hell can you have a list and not have Womba on it? He's beaten many big names and definitely has been one of the most dominant LHW's in recent times. Â Edit: Â Â Womba has beaten 3 people on this list and easily deserves a place in the top 20 at least. I'd really push for him to be in the top 10. Honest to god i ment to put him but i just forgot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 You have one of my fighters on the list, Bennet. He was my second best guy by a pretty wide margin. Pat McDermot would have eaten Bennet for breakfast and is way more deserving than him. There's also about 10-15 fighters on there that were way over-hyped. Egyptian is definitely missing as well as Carlton and Styles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 CHARLES FUCKING MARTEL! Â Just another list the man keeps him off. He's clearly the greatest fighter of all time(s), having beaten Skid Torres on two occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 I think styles is grossly overrated and i always found it a slight against Martel that the Ekaku fight never happened. other then that i made some adjustments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Start with adding all these fighters: Â http://www.mmatycoon.com/halloffame.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicemalone Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 What a terrible list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Start with adding all these fighters: Â http://www.mmatycoon.com/halloffame.php If you have not noticed, there are way better fighters who are not in the Tycoon HOF who have replaced those guys. Guys like Travis Reed are not top 50 all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 What a terrible list so make your own and post it so we can compare. also remember this is in not in order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 I think styles is grossly overrated and i always found it a slight against Martel that the Ekaku fight never happened. other then that i made some adjustments. Martel sucks. I set CGrace's sliders for him in every decent win he had. True story. Styles probably has more wins over good competition than half your list. He's probably incredibly underrated if anything because he has fought so much top competition. AJ Hearts is another fighter in that same vein. The only LT fighter you have is Remy LeBeau who didnt really fight all that great competition. Creed, Murdock and Creel were all much better and should be in the top 50. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortfuse122829 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Martel sucks. I set CGrace's sliders for him in every decent win he had. True story. Styles probably has more wins over good competition than half your list. He's probably incredibly underrated if anything because he has fought so much top competition. AJ Hearts is another fighter in that same vein. The only LT fighter you have is Remy LeBeau who didnt really fight all that great competition. Creed, Murdock and Creel were all much better and should be in the top 50.  I always felt Danny Power didn't get the respect he deserved despite the competition that he fought tbh too. I dunno if he belongs on this list or not but I'm going to list his opponents and their best rank.  L Benjamin Belleville -121 L Antero Wursty – 31 W Dumbass McWeakhands – 26 L Richard Dawkins - 17 L Rainer Varvaskoukku - 4 W Richard Dawkins - 17 D Richard Dawkins - 17 L Sly Randolph - 2 W Dumbass McWeakhands -26 W Suren Nazarethyan - 98 W Konrad Kurze - 93 L Mitch Heisenberg - 15 W Homer Simpson - 30 W Hector Cabrera - 4 L Oompa Loompa - 1 L Richard Dawkins - 17 W Jason Griffin – 38 D Jason Griffin - 38 W Hector Cabrera - 4 W Jason Griffin - 38 L Rainer Varvaskoukku - 4 W Katsu Higashikuni - 5 L Otso Jokinen - 1 L Waru Kuzuri - 2 L Sly Randolph - 2 W Katsu Higashikuni - 5 W Matt Miller - 9 W Scott Cain - 23 W Otso Jokinen - 1 W Cormac Maguire - 27 W Barry Scott - 5 W Clint Lomax - 6 L Sly Randolph - 2 W Angus Young - 8 W Roddy Piper - 18 W Charles Martel - 14 W Cormac Maguire - 27 W Mega Funkyama - 209 W Jay Colmen - 68 W Ivan Tunjic - 69 L Richard Teixeira – 18 L Dennis Wise KO (Punch) TTFC William Vs Corleone 2012-05-05 145 3 03:49 view   11  Domingo Perez - 10   I had 53 total fights w/ Danny & those are about 43 or 44 of the best guys he fought. Only 2 of those opponents didn't make the top 100 p4p. And he had 18 fights against former or current top 10 p4p fighters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtieBanks Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 I think Danny did fight top quality opposition but he lost a lot, i mean he doesn't have a 2/1 win loss ratio. Â As JLP noted they are a fair few fighters missing from that list and a few fighters who are questionable. Â As far as Womba goes hes top 5 no doubt. It was criminal he wasn't on the list to start with. Â Pretty sure Gable did the same thing though and got slated for his list. Â http://www.mmatycoon.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=29573&hl=%2Bboba+%2Bfett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortfuse122829 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 He did lose a decent amount of those, and like I said I'm not sure if he really belongs on this list. Â But 18 fights against top 10 competition. I bet you over half this list doesn't have near the amount of fights against top competition. He had like 27 or 28 fights against top 20 p4p fighters. I think too much credit is given to winning against average competition. Sure a win is a win, but a win over a guy who'd probably go 0-10 in EVO really matters? Â I guess it really depends on what you look at, I would probably put someone w/ 18 fights against top 10 competition despite only a 10-8 record over a guy who only had a handful of fights against top 10 competition but that's just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtieBanks Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 He did lose a decent amount of those, and like I said I'm not sure if he really belongs on this list.  But 18 fights against top 10 competition. I bet you over half this list doesn't have near the amount of fights against top competition. He had like 27 or 28 fights against top 20 p4p fighters. I think too much credit is given to winning against average competition. Sure a win is a win, but a win over a guy who'd probably go 0-10 in EVO really matters?  I guess it really depends on what you look at, I would probably put someone w/ 18 fights against top 10 competition despite only a 10-8 record over a guy who only had a handful of fights against top 10 competition but that's just me  In this game though they aren't a lot, if any guys i'd personally put on my list that didn't have a run fighting elite competition. It might not be as good as someone like Power but they won a lot more than Power. Winning is what makes a fighter great; not fighting great competition that only makes the fighter tough. The thing i will say about it though is they aren't many lighter weight fighters that have a great record when fighting top comp. Most of them just about keep a 2 or 3 to 1 ratio. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortfuse122829 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Well if winning is most important compared to competition level, u need a lot more Jacky fighters on this list. I have never had that view which I'm sure you are aware. To me going 15-2 in an org like AD is like going about 7-8 in Ascension. Dominating a mid tier org while beating an occasional super fight is a cake walk to having every fight be a big fight. I wouldn't necessarily put DP on the list because my knowledge of "big orgs/comp" doesn't start til about 2011, so it's hard to compare him to anybody b4 2011. But taking out the rough finish he had going 2-5-1 over his last 8 fights, I was 30-13-2 over a 45 fight span. About 35 of those were against top 50 p4p competition. Tycoon HOF'er/former #1 p4p, won the "triple crown" with org titles in Ascension, Empire, Evo (2x). 10 wins against top 10 p4p fighters. That's a pretty good career for a scrub either way 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xanax Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Did you seriously copy and paste Gables list from a 2 year old thread? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortfuse122829 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 That's really my outlook even outside of Tycoon to be quite honest though. I am sure a lot of Philly fans are excited about the 9-3 Eagles, but to me they have 2 quality wins the whole season (Indy & Dallas). So I look at them as fraudulent until they show me they can do it against elite competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowser Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Brick Tires deserves some love. He's beaten a lot of the top dudes for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtieBanks Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014  That's really my outlook even outside of Tycoon to be quite honest though. I am sure a lot of Philly fans are excited about the 9-3 Eagles, but to me they have 2 quality wins the whole season (Indy & Dallas). So I look at them as fraudulent until they show me they can do it against elite competition   If you look at the list as JLP alluded to Creed, Creel and Murdock all aren't there. You don't take out what happened at the end of someones career sadly. Out of Jacky fighters you could argue STP but that is about it. All i am saying is when it comes to smaller fighters you have guys like Rafa Silva and Vanilla Ice who both have amazing records considering the division they are in. Then you have Power, Partio, Waru, Sly etc who all have quite bad records w/l wise but all fought top competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky67 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 #1 Snake the Pendulum 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Did you seriously copy and paste Gables list from a 2 year old thread? I think you are right. He just added in some notables from the last two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 #1 Snake the Pendulum  Was wondering if you'd make an appearance to say that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortfuse122829 Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Well I think Murdock, Creel and Creed should all be on the list honestly Dinooo. I'm not sure I would put Remy Lebeau there though tbh, I would probably put Wade Wilson and Simon Williams ahead of him from LT's stable. There are a bunch of guys that I can't say I'm too familiar with though. Don't want to say they don't belong on the list because I just dunno much about their records and who they fought to attain those records.  2. Fidel Puno3. YB Sol4. Jin Sen5. Jesus Gonzalez 7. Golden Glory8. Hakuin Ekaku9. Abayo Bokhari 14. Johnny Cage15. Philip Dale16. Manu Okoro17. Cee Digits 21. Arthur Meighan22. Shock N Awe 27. Manny Baddabing 34. Tor Nansen35. Milo Phillips 40. Noriyuki Nayoui  Like I would question that all those guys belong on the list if you compare their accomplishments to Danny Power but that's only a question to me because I don't have enough information about those fighters. Just a quick look at the HOF, there are fighters like Jin Sen, Milo Phillips, Aloha Hoi, Jigoro Kane, Otso Jokinen who all fell apart kinda at the end of their careers and I would say Danny has a strong case against most of them. Well I would say even with his ending Otso still belongs though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortfuse122829 Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 #1 Snake the Pendulum  Nope, Afro Samurai has the #1 headband 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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