Lefty Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Something really needs to change for season 7. Every season has gotten a little less interesting and participation seems to be trending down. I'll quote my suggestion from earlier in the thread on the outside chance mike reads it (can't recall the last time I saw him in the forum though). On a positive note, my 18 year old creation is probably the best prospect on my entire roster. 6-0 and #8 p4p on the island. I'll like sit him until the tournament to get a good shot at winning. You will be shipping him back to your training camp once the season is over I assume? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 You will be shipping him back to your training camp once the season is over I assume? Yeah. He's about even skill wise with the other guys I got the same age. The faster recovery speed does a lot in terms of keeping up with the off island guys. I'll probably just make 18 year olds there from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarMachine Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 I've been disappointed in the season. Training supps were shit, gyms shit, my fighters shit. I'm shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 I've been disappointed in the season. Training supps were shit, gyms shit, my fighters shit. I'm shit. You're still the BW with most defences in my org. That must count for something right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarMachine Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Lol yeah true but my other fighters sucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Yeah. He's about even skill wise with the other guys I got the same age. The faster recovery speed does a lot in terms of keeping up with the off island guys. I'll probably just make 18 year olds there from now on. I thought of that once. Might try it myself. Great idea really and some decent experience from a season there too. That's probably the only thing that would be worth it on The Island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 I thought of that once. Might try it myself. Great idea really and some decent experience from a season there too. That's probably the only thing that would be worth it on The Island. The disadvantage though is that you are basically forced to fight 25 year olds, since the money you get when creating won't last forever, and it's practically impossible to book 18 year olds just against eachother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 The disadvantage though is that you are basically forced to fight 25 year olds, since the money you get when creating won't last forever, and it's practically impossible to book 18 year olds just against eachother 25 YOs can be beat by 18 YOs. Especially when they can learn a lot more in a short time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodrigokrojas Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 That would result in too many companies and too much competition for any one of them to thrive. Have you got any idea on how economics work? More competition means people will put more effort on the companies for them to thrive. Maybe Mike should give them more money to start off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Have you got any idea on how economics work? More competition means people will put more effort on the companies for them to thrive. Maybe Mike should give them more money to start off And one or 2 companies will be booming with most of the sales and any others will go to shit in 1 week. Do you have any idea how many people create fighters on The Island? Not many at all which is why there are so few good gyms and even fewer companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 The disadvantage though is that you are basically forced to fight 25 year olds, since the money you get when creating won't last forever, and it's practically impossible to book 18 year olds just against eachother Wills was 4-0 against 25 year olds and 2-0 against a 21 year old. He'll pass my 25 year old creation in skills probably next week. I expect him to have a decent edge in terms of total skills by the time the tourney starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodrigokrojas Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 And one or 2 companies will be booming with most of the sales and any others will go to shit in 1 week. Do you have any idea how many people create fighters on The Island? Not many at all which is why there are so few good gyms and even fewer companies. the companies that offer the best service will thrive while the ones which do not will fail. it's as simple as that and I don't see a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 the companies that offer the best service will thrive while the ones which do not will fail. it's as simple as that and I don't see a problem None of the companies will be able to survive due to oversaturation, unless the quality of the product gets lowered to worthless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAspirator Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 As a noob i thought the island would be just another training ground. I didnt expect to be trapped with no way of supporting my fighters from off Island. i dont remember if when I chose the island on the fighter creation page, if it said any warnings that my fighter would be stuck there until the end of march. Oh well such is life i suppose. I released three fighters from the island they sucked ass or ran out of money. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiwan Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 When does the next Island season begin exactly ? I just understand I join the game and therefore the island at the end of this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 As a noob i thought the island would be just another training ground. I didnt expect to be trapped with no way of supporting my fighters from off Island. i dont remember if when I chose the island on the fighter creation page, if it said any warnings that my fighter would be stuck there until the end of march. Oh well such is life i suppose. I released three fighters from the island they sucked ass or ran out of money. I get that you had a bad experience and I think it shows that the island definitely needs a lot of work. The island was started as an "even playing field" element of the game. A place were new players could compete with vets. At this point the opposite is true. The Island has really turned into a guilt free can crushing zone. Not that anyone is doing anything wrong or shady, but knowledge and experience gives such an insurmountable edge in this game that the island has become an easy place to pad the record and move up the rankings. Once vet managers figured out what works its so easy to go back to that reservoir of knowledge every season and produce a large stable of elite island fighters. I can get a great record out of mediocre hiddens fighters with no problem, if i actually churned for hiddens I could have a big stable of champions easily. You eventually get matched with other vets and take losses, but there is always a large pool of noobs to beat up on in the meantime, especially early on. The even playing field went out the window after the first season. Something new (rules/skillpoints/finances) is needed every season to return some parity to the island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 I get that you had a bad experience and I think it shows that the island definitely needs a lot of work. The island was started as an "even playing field" element of the game. A place were new players could compete with vets. At this point the opposite is true. The Island has really turned into a guilt free can crushing zone. Not that anyone is doing anything wrong or shady, but knowledge and experience gives such an insurmountable edge in this game that the island has become an easy place to pad the record and move up the rankings. Once vet managers figured out what works its so easy to go back to that reservoir of knowledge every season and produce a large stable of elite island fighters. I can get a great record out of mediocre hiddens fighters with no problem, if i actually churned for hiddens I could have a big stable of champions easily. You eventually get matched with other vets and take losses, but there is always a large pool of noobs to beat up on in the meantime, especially early on. The even playing field went out the window after the first season. Something new (rules/skillpoints/finances) is needed every season to return some parity to the island.I disagree, if you find a mentor to show you the ropes a bit, The Island can be great for noobs. In my first season I was able to hold #1p4p for a while, finished 1th in my wc and 2nd in the end of season tournament. I reached rank 84 on the back of one single fighter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 I disagree, if you find a mentor to show you the ropes a bit, The Island can be great for noobs. In my first season I was able to hold #1p4p for a while, finished 1th in my wc and 2nd in the end of season tournament. I reached rank 84 on the back of one single fighter. An outlier fighter doesnt really disprove any of what I said. Most new players dont get the advice from a mentor that helped you. Despite that, you had one good fighter and two total failures. I think most new players are far more likely to have the success level of the poster I quoted then what you were able to do. Of course the island can be great for noobs. Its also great for vet managers to pad their records at the expense of noobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 An outlier fighter doesnt really disprove any of what I said. Most new players dont get the advice from a mentor that helped you. Despite that, you had one good fighter and two total failures. I think most new players are far more likely to have the success level of the poster I quoted then what you were able to do. Of course the island can be great for noobs. Its also great for vet managers to pad their records at the expense of noobs.I've had one serious fighter and two right now that are there to pad my org. There are noob managers doing quite well in my org. It's for sure at least a more even playing field than the main game. But if the noob managers don't invest any time in it, to learn the game, they'll fail anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 I've had one serious fighter and two right now that are there to pad my org. There are noob managers doing quite well in my org. It's for sure at least a more even playing field than the main game. But if the noob managers don't invest any time in it, to learn the game, they'll fail anywhere. I was talking about the two fighters you also made when you made vermeer. I don't see any managers i would consider new players with a belt or an upcoming title shot in the two island orgs. The top fighters are mostly vets. New managers can get wins there when they fight other new managers, but for the most part they are hype fodder this season. I actually think its less of an even playing field because you can get to a point in the island were you cant recover from your mistakes short of cutting a fighter. At that point you might as well wait to next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 I was talking about the two fighters you also made when you made vermeer. I don't see any managers i would consider new players with a belt or an upcoming title shot in the two island orgs. The top fighters are mostly vets. New managers can get wins there when they fight other new managers, but for the most part they are hype fodder this season. I actually think its less of an even playing field because you can get to a point in the island were you cant recover from your mistakes short of cutting a fighter. At that point you might as well wait to next season. As far as I remember I only made Roy Hunt back then, who I refused to cut when Jax said I should. John Dodson in my org is a two time champ, by a manager who joined last August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 As far as I remember I only made Roy Hunt back then, who I refused to cut when Jax said I should. John Dodson in my org is a two time champ, by a manager who joined last August. This John Dodson? He's not a two time champ, he's 6-4 in the org and 1-3 in title fights. He's been lucky to not run across top manager opposition. War Machine and yourself are the two more recognizable names hes beaten. These are the two island fighters you struck out with the same time you made vermeer: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=286053 http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=286251 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 This John Dodson? He's not a two time champ, he's 6-4 in the org and 1-3 in title fights. He's been lucky to not run across top manager opposition. War Machine and yourself are the two more recognizable names hes beaten. These are the two island fighters you struck out with the same time you made vermeer: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=286053 http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=286251 Alex was only a test fight, Ryan I kept cause I was stubborn, if I listened to my mentor I would've sacked him after his first fight. Dodson actually won the title twice, the fight against Higuchi should've been a title fight, but the box unchecked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Alex was only a test fight, Ryan I kept cause I was stubborn, if I listened to my mentor I would've sacked him after his first fight. Dodson actually won the title twice, the fight against Higuchi should've been a title fight, but the box unchecked For future reference you can get Mike to fix this as it is a known glitch that will be ironed out eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 For future reference you can get Mike to fix this as it is a known glitch that will be ironed out eventually.Oh I know, I didn't think Dodson would beat Higuchi, so I didn't bother. Mike fixed it after the fight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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