Timqwe Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Hold on hold on so if you honestly believe I should pay $50,000 then according to the rules, when RDA fights at WW he will be unranked and earn $2,000 rather than $10,000? - this point in itself proves how stupid you are. You gotta apply common sense and read between the lines sometimes. Tell me how this makes sense. I got lucky much like you did. Shit happens? For Christ sakes, the Rules state: -Top 5 ranked fighters cost $50,000 but your camp will receive $10,000 for their show money and another $10,000 if they win. *NEW* And: If a fighter moves up to fight in a different weight class he will earn whatever rank he is in the weight class he is fighting in, for example if he is ranked #7 in BW and unranked in FW and he is fighting in FW he will only earn what an unranked fighter makes UNLESS he is a champion in his current weightclass. These two are not related. If Rory wants to change the rules now, that's his thing, but according the the rules that were written down you should pay 50k. Daft idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Owners of holm and de randomie should get a refund as well then using the RDA loophole. Potentially, let's see what Rory says, but I think this should've been mentioned initially and it's too late now. But that doesn't quite make sense either in the sense that there are only two fighters at featherweight currently and there aren't any official rankings. If there were these fighters would be #1 and #2 so Timqwe should pay more according to the rules if anything. Which, by the way, I don't think is fair either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 For Christ sakes, the Rules state: -Top 5 ranked fighters cost $50,000 but your camp will receive $10,000 for their show money and another $10,000 if they win. *NEW* And: If a fighter moves up to fight in a different weight class he will earn whatever rank he is in the weight class he is fighting in, for example if he is ranked #7 in BW and unranked in FW and he is fighting in FW he will only earn what an unranked fighter makes UNLESS he is a champion in his current weightclass. These two are not related. If Rory wants to change the rules now, that's his thing, but according the the rules that were written down you should pay 50k. Daft idiot But RDA is unranked at WW (which was the weight class he was fighting in when I made my pick) hence applying common sense and realising I should pay $10,000? Can you acknowledge my point re him costing $50,000 but earning only $2,000 or are you going to stick to your stubborn argument which doesn't make sense at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Look, I'm done with the discussion. All I ask is Rory to either put it up to a vote, or take the arguments of JLP and me into consideration one more time, and make a clear statement after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 You're allowed to express your opinion, but I'm also allowed to criticise your opinion hence pointing out an obvious flaw in your argument. If you still feel the same well then you're just stubborn. It's such an insignificant petty argument and I hope people feel the same. Don't be a dick. According to the rules you are in the clear, I'm disagreeing with the rules Rory came up with. If you feel you need a loophole to compete, that's fine as well. Timqwe and McCann are going to benefit far more then you will, as one of them will have a champion and the other a top 5 fighter for unranked money now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 But RDA is unranked at WW (which was the weight class he was fighting in when I made my pick) hence applying common sense and realising I should pay $10,000? Can you acknowledge my point re him costing $50,000 but earning only $2,000 or are you going to stick to your stubborn argument which doesn't make sense at all? You're daft, reread this: If a fighter moves up to fight in a different weight class he will earn whatever rank he is in the weight class he is fighting in, for example if he is ranked #7 in BW and unranked in FW and he is fighting in FW he will only earn what an unranked fighter makes UNLESS he is a champion in his current weightclass. It's literally in the rules Edit: Once again, if it were up to me, I'd give you first pick once RDA is removed from the LW rankings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniConor Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 This argument has got way too heated it's hilariously ridiculous. No need for name calling, this is just some fun guys. Try and relax. My personal opinion is that RDA should cost 50k and I will vote for that, but lets make Rory's life easier and just chill.... and go with the flow that he sets. Ride the wave maaaaaaan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Look, I'm done with the discussion. All I ask is Rory to either put it up to a vote, or take the arguments of JLP and me into consideration one more time, and make a clear statement after that. So you're standing by your point that he should cost $50,000 but earn only $2,000 for his first fight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 It's a messed up situation, but let's face it. RDA won't fight more than 2 times this year, maybe even 1 time. If he wins, he only gets 4000$ which isn't that much. In my opinion let it be and just enjoy this, no need for more tears and butthurt, the forum is full of it these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 nvm, removing myself from this discussion until Rory speaks up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwad12345 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I agree with JLP, I was scratching my head when Rory made that decision and I'm glad someone said something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Potentially, let's see what Rory says, but I think this should've been mentioned initially and it's too late now. But that doesn't quite make sense either in the sense that there are only two fighters at featherweight currently and there aren't any official rankings. If there were these fighters would be #1 and #2 so Timqwe should pay more according to the rules if anything. Which, by the way, I don't think is fair either. Lol, that is the most ridiculous argument yet. So you are now arguing only you should benefit from the loophole you found.Holm, de randomie and RDA all cost what they are ranked now in their current division or they are all the cost of unranked fighters. That's pretty simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Don't be a dick. According to the rules you are in the clear, I'm disagreeing with the rules Rory came up with. If you feel you need a loophole to compete, that's fine as well. Timqwe and McCann are going to benefit far more then you will, as one of them will have a champion and the other a top 5 fighter for unranked money now. Actually if you read my previous message ackonwledging the Timqwe and McCann situation I explain why these are completely different circumstances and why if anything Timqwe should cough up an extra $25,000. But I'm glad you've accepted that I was following the rules, whether or not there was a loophole to exploit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Actually if you read my previous message ackonwledging the Timqwe and McCann situation I explain why these are completely different circumstances and why if anything Timqwe should cough up an extra $25,000. But I'm glad you've accepted that I was following the rules, whether or not there was a loophole to exploit. if anything GDR should be 15k cheaper, according to your loophole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 It's a messed up situation, but let's face it. RDA won't fight more than 2 times this year, maybe even 1 time. If he wins, he only gets 4000$ which isn't that much. In my opinion let it be and just enjoy this, no need for more tears and butthurt, the forum is full of it these days.That makes it 4 vs 4 so far, taking into account Gwad's opinion also. But you know what - I'm sick of arguing this and I don't want to be viewed as a cheat so I'm going to remove RDA from my team and pick someone else. I've also got really important professional accounting exams and so I've probably already wasted an hour today trying to prove that I'm not a cheat with a couple people still accusing me of cheating. At the end of the day it's just a game and we should enjoy ourselves. But if someone accuses me of foul play I'm always going to argue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 if anything GDR should be 15k cheaper, according to your loophole Please could you copy me into the official UFC women's featherweight rankings and prove to me that both fighters sit outside the top 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniConor Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 So everybody have a nice Christmas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 In the light of the above, does anyone want to rescind their accusations or would you like me to pick someone else instead of RDA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Please could you copy me into the official UFC women's featherweight rankings and prove to me that both fighters sit outside the top 15.Lol, that's not even my argument. My starting argument was that the highest currently available ranking should count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 In the light of the above, does anyone want to rescind their accusations or would you like me to pick someone else instead of RDA?I would like you to wait until Rory makes a final decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Alright thanks - I'll wait, but if it makes everyone a happy family again, I'll remove him. But it makes me pretty upset that I explicitly followed the rules and followed MMA news like the bible to find something useful and will now lose out as a consequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 oh shit son, i was away briefly and all this has gone down. Lets not comment on this for a while so I can catch up on this... No point on arguing anymore, this is nothing to get upset about. All will be sorted soon! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 One last point I would like to make. If you go to the official UFC site, and then the fighter list, RDA is only on the LW list, not the WW. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 One last point I would like to make. If you go to the official UFC site, and then the fighter list, RDA is only on the LW list, not the WW. That's because it was updated a week ago and RDA announced his move yesterday. Unnecessary point to make. Let Rory decide for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 That's because it was updated a week ago and RDA announced his move yesterday. Unnecessary point to make. Let Rory decide for himself.My point is, he's not officially a ww yet till the ufc says so. Mark Hunt can say he's fighting at bantamweight next, doesn't mean he's unranked all of the sudden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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