Trx Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Have a look at this fight (and it is not the exception): http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=997559 Fight ended in round 1 with a submission, in it there were 3 sub attempts, takedown, clinch... and the fight rating was 26%!!! Really? Maybe this is representative of a crowd in the early 2000s, but it is a bit ridiculous now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsquirrel Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Maybe we could at least get increased grappling ratings if the fight is in Japan 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylib Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 I think its common knowledge that subs and grappling generate less popularity (maybe hype and ratings) than KOs. I think fight ratings also depend on other criteria, such as whether or not the fight was close; cant remember others off the top of my head. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeF Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 I had forgotten that fight rating existed, you shouldn't pay attention to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trx Posted January 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 I think its common knowledge that subs and grappling generate less popularity (maybe hype and ratings) than KOs. I think fight ratings also depend on other criteria, such as whether or not the fight was close; cant remember others off the top of my head. Ok, but this seems a bit extreme to me. I had forgotten that fight rating existed, you shouldn't pay attention to it. I am quite new so sorry if being ignorant, but doesn't your hype and popularity depend on it? If so, then clearly grapplers are at a large disadvantage when signed and getting contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeF Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Nah, hype gains are related to your fighter's hype : opponent's hype ratio mostly, while popularity gains depend on aggression and fight outcome(decision/finish). In the future you'll find out that grapplers are generally fucked up in mmat, but the fight rating is their least problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trx Posted January 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Nah, hype gains are related to your fighter's hype : opponent's hype ratio mostly, while popularity gains depend on aggression and fight outcome(decision/finish). In the future you'll find out that grapplers are generally fucked up in mmat, but the fight rating is their least problem Hmmm, how so? Are they not viable because submissions less likely or because the referee stands fighters up too soon (thats what it seems like to me)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeF Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Escapes are OP, subs are hard to get, gnp is not scored properly when it comes to decision. Also actions per minute are much lower on the ground compared to striking/clinch. Also you need more secondaries for a grappler than a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trx Posted January 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Escapes are OP, subs are hard to get, gnp is not scored properly when it comes to decision. Also actions per minute are much lower on the ground compared to striking/clinch. Also you need more secondaries for a grappler than a striker. Makes sense given what I have seen. Thanks a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageMMa Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 I think its common knowledge that subs and grappling generate less popularity (maybe hype and ratings) than KOs. I think fight ratings also depend on other criteria, such as whether or not the fight was close; cant remember others off the top of my head. To casual fans who don't really watch MMA you are right... Grappling is the missing aspect of muy thai and boxing.. MOST MMA fans DO NOT watch boxing AT ALL... If there was no grappling in MMA it would not be even close to as popular... There are polls online that prove that the average fan enjoys a grappling match, they just hate when people do "lay and prey" Khabib is one of the worlds most popular fighters, He cannot strike worth shit on the feet, the most we have seen him do is land a few lucky strikes... Also about 50-60% of mma fans do or have at some point trained Jui Jitsu, it's common knowledge that someone in mma with no wrestling or grappling is going to lose almost all their fights so the audacity of you to say "grappling generates less popularity" is downright blasphemous and an outright proven lie! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageMMa Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 I think its common knowledge that subs and grappling generate less popularity (maybe hype and ratings) than KOs. I think fight ratings also depend on other criteria, such as whether or not the fight was close; cant remember others off the top of my head. This is the only time somebodies ignorance has pissed me off on the forums... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsquirrel Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Aylib is talking about the game here 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damndaniel Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 @ savageMMa Khabibs striking is way better than he gets credit for. He can seem like a spazz when punches are thrown at him but he has never been dropped, and offensively has a pretty good jab, and decent power. Anyways, yea im fucked, all my fighters are grappling based.. shit lmao. And fight ratings seem to be nonsense. I just had a fight where my guy won a 1st round KO in less than 2 min. But fight rating was like 57 or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damndaniel Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=996305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsquirrel Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Don't worry your first couple fighters are mostly for learning stuff with anyway. And grapplers can be successful, especially at lower levels. There is nothing wrong in starting with a grappler base and add striking skills from training. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylib Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Aylib is talking about the game here 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularJohn Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 To casual fans who don't really watch MMA you are right... Grappling is the missing aspect of muy thai and boxing.. MOST MMA fans DO NOT watch boxing AT ALL... If there was no grappling in MMA it would not be even close to as popular... There are polls online that prove that the average fan enjoys a grappling match, they just hate when people do "lay and prey" Khabib is one of the worlds most popular fighters, He cannot strike worth shit on the feet, the most we have seen him do is land a few lucky strikes... Also about 50-60% of mma fans do or have at some point trained Jui Jitsu, it's common knowledge that someone in mma with no wrestling or grappling is going to lose almost all their fights so the audacity of you to say "grappling generates less popularity" is downright blasphemous and an outright proven lie! You were right until the end then you went off at aylib for no reason at all. he is talking about the game (which should be obvious). Having said that, grapplers can be very sucessful at lower levels. it's when everybody is maxed out with Elite Wrestling/BJJ Black Belt/ Elite secondaries that grapplers become less effective, for many reasons, the biggest one IMO being the incredibly low ammonut of actions per minute on the ground which makes you run out of time very quickly. I actually strongly advise noobs to create a couple grapplers so they can score a couple sub wins against white belts and feel good about themselves. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornmma1 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Conrad "The Joker" Mcgillicutty http://www.mmatycoon.com/gallery/0/14270347009408.jpg If I wanted to see cuddling and hugging, I could sign in to my Pornhub platinum account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 @ savageMMa Khabibs striking is way better than he gets credit for. He can seem like a spazz when punches are thrown at him but he has never been dropped, and offensively has a pretty good jab, and decent power. Anyways, yea im fucked, all my fighters are grappling based.. shit lmao. And fight ratings seem to be nonsense. I just had a fight where my guy won a 1st round KO in less than 2 min. But fight rating was like 57 or something. I would disagree with statements about Khabib's striking and power. Pillow fist. Seen him GNP many fighters and none went to sleep. He has one career knockdown against a hungover egomaniac who had his hands down, who is not known for great chin. Idk. Khabib is a beast. But dude doesn't have KO power or Conor would of went to sleep. He threw that punch with all his Dagasteni might. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damndaniel Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 @ Rambo, He dropped Kamal Shalorous and Thiago Tavares with uppercuts, and Conor with the overhand. Im not saying he will ever be considered an elite striker, but he is not that bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damndaniel Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=997860 Here is a 3 min fight, back and forth, head kick that caused a cut, 2 takedowns, 2 escapes/reversals, ground and pound, and a submission. All in 3 min, and it scored lower than a 50. Seemed like it would be a pretty exciting fight to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsquirrel Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Definitely should, but not easy to write code to recognize that so among all things that could be better in the game I'm willing to give Mike a pass on this one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 @ Rambo, He dropped Kamal Shalorous and Thiago Tavares with uppercuts, and Conor with the overhand. Im not saying he will ever be considered an elite striker, but he is not that bad either. Idk. What I seen vs Conor was pretty sloppy. We'll see how he looks vs Tony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 I think fight rating has a lot to do with both fighters aggro slider and moves per minute... Could use improvement for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damndaniel Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Any examples of a grapple heavy fight that scored a high rating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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