Parriyah Posted August 23, 2020 Report Share Posted August 23, 2020 I'm still not completely familiar with how hiddens work and what's important for a younger fighter so I figured I'd ask on the forums for advice. http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=1020076 My fighter is on the left who won the fight and his learning speed is 5.1. I've been told to sack before the test fight cause of the speed but I wanted to see how his hiddens were first and right now I don't know which choice to make. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsquirrel Posted August 23, 2020 Report Share Posted August 23, 2020 Sack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwang Posted August 23, 2020 Report Share Posted August 23, 2020 SACK! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyM5 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 ^^ as they said, I'd sack him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parriyah Posted August 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Gonna have to wait about 2 weeks before I can sack again. in the meantime I'll train him a little and test him 1 more time incase he pops a nice hidden. If not he's going in the bin. Thanks for all your advice everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyM5 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 If you keep him, then train his ground game. His intelligence will work best for you there. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsquirrel Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 If you keep him, then train his ground game. His intelligence will work best for you there. Turning him into a pure grappler and do TWGC could be an option if you really want to keep him. Less total skills to train so his learning speed won't factor as much and hiddens like chin etc. doesn't matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parriyah Posted August 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 While we're on the topic, I got another fighter who ended up with 5.7 speed, just waiting for the test fight which is in 12 hours. Just to confirm, 5.7 learning speed is good right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyel Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 While we're on the topic, I got another fighter who ended up with 5.7 speed, just waiting for the test fight which is in 12 hours. Just to confirm, 5.7 learning speed is good right? 5.7 barely acceptable. 6+ is okay, 6.5+ is good, 7+ is great Personally, I'm not keeping anything under 6 and at 6 - 6.5, he better have a decent hidden on tott. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 While we're on the topic, I got another fighter who ended up with 5.7 speed, just waiting for the test fight which is in 12 hours. Just to confirm, 5.7 learning speed is good right? REALLY borderline. I'd only stick with 5.7 IF already made the fighter to be a pure grappler for Catch Wrestling/KT OR insanely good hiddens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValentinasAss Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 REALLY borderline. I'd only stick with 5.7 IF already made the fighter to be a pure grappler for Catch Wrestling/KT OR insanely good hiddens Squidward is 1/2 right - that OR should have been AND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 Squidward is 1/2 right - that OR should have been AND. You dont need insane hiddens for grappling, Blake 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornmma1 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 Learning speed is fun, but either way training is always slow and should have been boosted by now already. But yeah, I would keep him if I were you. It pays off to try and fight with different fighters/builds as a noob manager and then learn to adapt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popart Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 Personally my limit is 5.5, as imo hiddens are much more important. Im not releasing a 5.5 granite ever. Hell, I even have a 5.1 on my roster right now. Is anyone under 5.5 ever going to develop into a top fighter? 99% no. Being a newbie though, it is beneficial to have some real fast learners so you can get some fights under your belt. (25 yo builds are also very beneficial for new players to figure out sliders, and there’s no need to worry about learning speed with them as they have a shelf life of about 6 months) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizz81 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 I'm still not completely familiar with how hiddens work and what's important for a younger fighter so I figured I'd ask on the forums for advice. http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=1020076 My fighter is on the left who won the fight and his learning speed is 5.1. I've been told to sack before the test fight cause of the speed but I wanted to see how his hiddens were first and right now I don't know which choice to make. Thanks in advance. Not sure if this info will help with your decision to keep him, but it was my fighter who you beat. He was created with 0 defensive skills so I could check morale as well as hiddens if/when he lost. His striking D was a 1. My 2 cents, unless you are making him a ground guy, cut him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyel Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 The make an example out of learning speed difference, let me introduce you to two of my 360k fighters - Jake and Nyah. Jake - https://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=360411 - Jake is older, one of the first fighters I made after returning to the game, and he's not bad. He's got a good chin, good confidence, and non-negative KO power as he scores knockouts when he should in a relatively timely manner, and doesn't fight like a retard on the ground, so he has some basic intelligence. Jake is a 5.7 learner. Nyah - https://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=361069 - Nyah is a touch younger, wasn't even tested. His chin isn't anything great since he's already gotten a negative chin message in a fight interview, his KO power is questionable at best because he can't knock out even a cuts easily opponent, and he doesn't make aggressive moves unless forced to, so his confidence isn't anything stellar. By how he fights, I estimate he would pop Intelligent were he tested. But Nyah is a 7.2 learner, thanks to which he's got over 200 total skill points more than Jake. Any fight between them would be absolutely one-sided. Sure, Jake might one day become better than Nyah, but that day isn't coming anytime soon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parriyah Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 Not sure if this info will help with your decision to keep him, but it was my fighter who you beat. He was created with 0 defensive skills so I could check morale as well as hiddens if/when he lost. His striking D was a 1. My 2 cents, unless you are making him a ground guy, cut him. Since I can't cut him due to the 15 day restriction I'll try making him a ground guy. Thanks for letting me know though. Now I know his KO power isn't that good lol. The make an example out of learning speed difference, let me introduce you to two of my 360k fighters - Jake and Nyah. Jake - https://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=360411 - Jake is older, one of the first fighters I made after returning to the game, and he's not bad. He's got a good chin, good confidence, and non-negative KO power as he scores knockouts when he should in a relatively timely manner, and doesn't fight like a retard on the ground, so he has some basic intelligence. Jake is a 5.7 learner. Nyah - https://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=361069 - Nyah is a touch younger, wasn't even tested. His chin isn't anything great since he's already gotten a negative chin message in a fight interview, his KO power is questionable at best because he can't knock out even a cuts easily opponent, and he doesn't make aggressive moves unless forced to, so his confidence isn't anything stellar. By how he fights, I estimate he would pop Intelligent were he tested. But Nyah is a 7.2 learner, thanks to which he's got over 200 total skill points more than Jake. Any fight between them would be absolutely one-sided. Sure, Jake might one day become better than Nyah, but that day isn't coming anytime soon. Interesting coincidence, My 3rd fighter got 7.2 learning speed and now I'm waiting for his hiddens. Judging from what you said even if his hiddens suck he will still do well cause of his ability to get high skills quicker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 Since I can't cut him due to the 15 day restriction I'll try making him a ground guy. Thanks for letting me know though. Now I know his KO power isn't that good lol. Interesting coincidence, My 3rd fighter got 7.2 learning speed and now I'm waiting for his hiddens. Judging from what you said even if his hiddens suck he will still do well cause of his ability to get high skills quicker? he Will do weel for 4-5 fights, then the gap wont make a difference anymore and he wont be able to win fuck shit anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyel Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Depends how bad the hiddens are - there are levels where the fighter is unusable, but even an enjoys gardening fighter might have 90 across in hiddens, which would make him a top-tier fighter for quite a while in combination with high learning speed. Sure, come lategame, he will stop being competitive since high ko power opponents would ktfo him with ease, but there is a lot of game until then. Also, what comboes really well with high learning speed is having decent ko power or okay ko power and high intelligence - ending fights quickly leads to low energy loss per fight, allowing to take full advantage of the learning speed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lylehumphreys Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 I've just come back after a 2 year hiatus, how do I find / work out my fighters learning speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parriyah Posted August 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 I've just come back after a 2 year hiatus, how do I find / work out my fighters learning speed? First train a fighters useless ability for 1 session with an elite coach (only 1 fighter training with the coach). After that, go to skill snapshot, choose the ability you trained, right click on the red bar and then inspect element. Skim through the lines until you find a number with a percentage (single digit number with decimals). Multiply that number by 150 WITH the % and voila, you got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizz81 Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 I've just come back after a 2 year hiatus, how do I find / work out my fighters learning speed? Read through this post http://www.mmatycoon.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=65565 It will direct you to exactly what you want to make life easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyel Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 First train a fighters useless ability for 1 session with an elite coach (only 1 fighter training with the coach). After that, go to skill snapshot, choose the ability you trained, right click on the red bar and then inspect element. Skim through the lines until you find a number with a percentage (single digit number with decimals). Multiply that number by 150 WITH the % and voila, you got it. On a technical side note, in Chrome, ctrl + shift + c into clicking on the bar you want to see will get you straight to the percentage in the skill snapshot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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