ShaneOMac Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 How would you rank the hidden attributes from best to worst? 1. Learning Speed 2. Chin 3. Heart 4. Intelligence 5. KO Power 6. Self confidence 7. Cuts 8. Injury 9. Experience (can easily be increased later on) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djohn Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 How would you rank the hidden attributes from best to worst? 1. Learning Speed 2. Chin 3. Heart 4. Intelligence 5. KO Power 6. Self confidence 7. Cuts 8. Injury 9. Experience (can easily be increased later on) So am I to interpret that you feel Both Injury and Cuts are better hidden attributes to have than experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Learning Speed Chin Heart pretty much the only ones i choose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 How would you rank the hidden attributes from best to worst? 1. Learning Speed 2. Chin 3. Heart 4. Intelligence 5. KO Power 6. Self confidence 7. Cuts 8. Injury 9. Experience (can easily be increased later on) That other guy gotcha, move Experience to #7. Really though, what does Intelligence matter if you set your guy to 100% follow gameplan? As I understand IQ + Exp dictates whether your guy will make good decisions... 1. Learning Speed 2. KO Power. 3. Chin 4. Heart... And after that, everything is easily dealt with outside of the ring. No confidence? Buy them a new shirt when they lose. Injured? It doesn't effect training anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneOMac Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 So am I to interpret that you feel Both Injury and Cuts are better hidden attributes to have than experience? I meant to start off with because you can easily gain experience whereas if you`re injury prone or cut easily there is nothing you can do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattycrawford09 Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 ko power is important if you want a stand up fighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heinen Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 I dont think having a heart is top 3. As I understand it, it only kicks in when you are injured. And it seems to me, as if you can only get cut during a fight, and the injuries will be added to your fighter after the fight is over. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneOMac Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 I dont think having a heart is top 3. As I understand it, it only kicks in when you are injured. And it seems to me, as if you can only get cut during a fight, and the injuries will be added to your fighter after the fight is over. What do you think? Heart kicks in when you`re rocked so if you have a granite chin and have heart, you`ll be very hard to finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 learning speed.... heavy handed chin for standup fighters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffWanderer Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 it seems a bit of a shame that flexibility (or bendiness) isn't a hidden attribute as it would be the equiviant for ko power for ground fighters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneOMac Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 it seems a bit of a shame that flexibility (or bendiness) isn't a hidden attribute as it would be the equiviant for ko power for ground fighters You can actually improve your flexibility whereas you can't add any weight to the bones in your hands other than surgery. There should be an Athleticism hidden attribute though. Everyone can only get so fast and strong based on their body type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 1. Learning Speed 2. Chin 3. Heart 4. KO Power 5. Intelligence 6. Cuts 7. Injury 8. Experience Self confidence did not qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneOMac Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Doesn't self confidence contribute to how aggressive you are? I don't want a fighter that's scared to throw his hands. I also found a correlation that most KO via slams are from fighters with high confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 If you do follow orders your guy does what the sliders say he must do. So the self confidence factor becomes irrelevant. At least that's how I think it works. Wiki: Self confidence - A more self confident fighter will have a tendancy to move forward. You may wish to counter this using tactics. Not very clear though. Can you post some slam fights if you can? You made me interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneOMac Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 If you do follow orders your guy does what the sliders say he must do. So the self confidence factor becomes irrelevant. At least that's how I think it works. Wiki: Self confidence - A more self confident fighter will have a tendancy to move forward. You may wish to counter this using tactics. Not very clear though. Can you post some slam fights if you can? You made me interested. It's in the thread where a person was asking if anyone as ever seen KO Slams and Superman Punches for most of them they have Self Confidence in their keys to victory. http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=38762 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=38762 I found this one: http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=8923 He could have high self confidence but it's not on the tale of the tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 1. Learning Speed 2. Chin 3. Heart 4. KO Power 5. Intelligence 6. Cuts 7. Injury 8. Experience Self confidence did not qualify. Are you sure Heart and Chin BOTH outweigh KO power? The way I see it, if you have KO power and train up your striking defense, a good chin suddenly becomes a much less important part of your gameplan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneOMac Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Are you sure Heart and Chin BOTH outweigh KO power? The way I see it, if you have KO power and train up your striking defense, a good chin suddenly becomes a much less important part of your gameplan. What happens when you fight someone with equally good striking or better than your striking defence and has KO Power? I'm pretty sure your decent chin is going to get cracked. The way I see it, you can have a successful fighter without KO power but you can't have a successful fighter without a chin and heart. It's the Big Nog vs. Andrei Arlovoski debate. I'd have Big Nig 10 times out of 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Are you sure Heart and Chin BOTH outweigh KO power? The way I see it, if you have KO power and train up your striking defense, a good chin suddenly becomes a much less important part of your gameplan. I think it's just a question of tactics and opinion. Granite chin and a lot of heart are very useful for both groundfighters and standup fighters. I'm not much with KO power if the gameplan is to get it to the ground as soon as possible. Even for a standup fighter I would choose for durability. What is a good chin for a fighter with no heart? What are you with a lot of heart if you don't have a good chin? So I rather have both than a fighter with KO power and only one of them. If the KO powered guy hits my fighter with a very hard shot than he will likely survive. If my fighter hits his opponent with a fairy punch it's still possible that he either starts crying or his chin breaks in a million pieces. For me it's more of a dilemma chosing between heart and chin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneOMac Posted November 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 I usually tick off Big Heart, Fast Learner and Good Chin. At the end of it all I just hope he has good KO Power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 While fast learner and good chin are both tremendously important, I'd rather have 150 chin and 100 learning speed than 150 learning speed and 100 chin. Eventually all fighters are elite. Getting there faster would be nice but never getting KO'd is even better. I therefore have to rank it as: 1-Good chin 2-Fast learner 3-KO power 4-Heart who cares. That's for a standup guy anyway. For a ground specialist I'd put heart above KO power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 I'd rather have Fast Learner. Can get to Elite Striking Defense faster then work on striking or ground game to just make worrying about your chin a non-issue. I'd just watch bitches hit the ground before realized that sudden gust of wind came from his fists, feet, elbows, or knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 it all depends on what kind of fighter you make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 One of my fighters is 5-0 and has been rocked in 3 of his fights. But he has big heart as one of his attributes, I'd say it counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santa Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Does KO Power work on knees and kicks and GnP too? Or maybe kicks, and not GnP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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