Guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 If you're in positing where you think you have a slight advantage on your feet and you know the other fighter is a clinch fighter, where you're not as confident, how do you prevent the opposition from having success with the clinch? What are some slider tactics that will help avoid being put in that position? Would one go for accurate shots to keep the fight at a distance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eveas Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 If you're in positing where you think you have a slight advantage on your feet and you know the other fighter is a clinch fighter, where you're not as confident, how do you prevent the opposition from having success with the clinch? What are some slider tactics that will help avoid being put in that position? Would one go for accurate shots to keep the fight at a distance? Counter strikers can avoid the clinch easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexiZaitev Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 your best bet is to go high control and break clinch, because if he is a clinch fighter, he will do everything he can to get the fight there, so therefore your best bet is to go with that strategy and pepper him with as many shots as you can from the outside and pray you KO him first Edit: Eveas' post is also correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 If you are in the clinch, you can try jump guard and a bit high takedown percentage on slider because whenever your jump guard fail, there's a certain percentage that the fight will restart back to standup position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 If you are in the clinch, you can try jump guard and a bit high takedown percentage on slider because whenever your jump guard fail, there's a certain percentage that the fight will restart back to standup position. Having a good ground game is a part of countering the clinch anyway. http://mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=268210 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyster89 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 To the original question, there really isn't much you can do to totally avoid the clinch if that's what your opponent has for their gameplan. Your speed and agility will help you avoid clinch attempts to a point. But chances are, you will end up in the clinch at some point. Than as was stated by others, you can try and pull guard or break the clinch. Obviously your takedowns will have an effect on your ability to pull guard, but strength is of the utmost importance in the clinch. I've found to break the clinch or at least control the pace and stall, strength is huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I have a clinch fighter fighting another clinch fighter but I will murk him from striking on the outside we both have no ground game whatsoever what slider strategy should I use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 How's your STR and takedowns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Punch him in the mouth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GanjaPirate Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 So, if your'e trying to avoid clinch attempts with a striker, the best bet would be accurate combos from the outside? What about leg kicks, would they help if the fighter was skilled enough?Just curious, working on a few clinch fighters and this post caught my eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I wouldn't say combos, since they'll drain a lot of energy.. and in real life when your hands are flying is when someone is usually gonna try to counter with a clinch or takedown. I'm not sure about leg kicks but body kicks would probably slow them down resulting is weaker clinch attempts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylib Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Leg kicks would slow them down, body kicks will probably drain energy, which should allow for easier clinch breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 clinch is so nerfed now that its so much easier to get a TD than to get into the clinch. dont build a fighter with the clinch being the main position you want to be in. You can still win a fight in the clinch, but its more of a supplemental offensive skill now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylib Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Even with elite strength/clinch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verbalkint Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 F'n counter clinch lost me several big fights lately where i stil lwas in deny-mode, like, arr crap let's just aggro that fucker like usual. Ain't fun anymore. Hate it. And break? Impossibru! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 clinch is so nerfed now that its so much easier to get a TD than to get into the clinch. dont build a fighter with the clinch being the main position you want to be in. You can still win a fight in the clinch, but its more of a supplemental offensive skill now. Do you really think that it's much easier to get td than clinch? Wish we could see Clinch attempts/success rate too see, but that certainly shouldn't be the case. Clinch you can still dominate an opponent if you have an advantage in the clinch and win quickly with knees, but elbows feel very weak and boxing feels average in clinch. I dunno, maybe could use a slight boost at the higher end given so many FA I pick up that have had succesful careers are weak in clinch and never really get exploited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Clinch used to be pretty easy to get into and was pretty overpowered. I had many top fighters who were clinch specialists who went into the shitter after the last engine change a year ago. Now I think the majority of the times I am in the clinch are due to the allow clinch checkbox. I have guys with elite- clinch or better routinely go 0-3 or 0-4 in getting a clinch in a given round. I think a sens wrestler with elite clinch who has an edge or even in those two categories is successful maybe 20% of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handgrenaide Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Noob help section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topologies Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I feel like in the clinch knees and elbows dont land as much as punches (which is not a problem) but the success rate of knees and elbows are just too damn low. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I'm with JLP unless your opponent has no clinch skill or wrestling it's complicated to get a clinch meanwhile, I've had a wonderful wrestler with wonderful takedown defense get taken down immediately at the bell by a far more inferior opponent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Keep in mind that clinch attempts are like takedown attempts, the more u set your fighter to attempt them the less likely they are to be successful. Also, about punches being weak in the clinch: I figure if your opponent has enough clinch knowledge, they won't allow you to smash them with a hook uppercut combo from the clinch. I see it in mma sometimes and it's beautiful to see it irl but I can't say I see it all too often even irl. If your opponent knows enough about the clinch they will probably hold u close and try to throw u off as soon as possible. Meanwhile, you will be there trying to work your dirty boxing and he is stifling you. If he is good enough he will have you in awkward clinch positions with you trying to slip short shots in and those are quite inneffective. His neck is on your shoulder and you try to punch him but there's no space to do damage! And just when you feel you can get that shot in, he moves his head to the other side! Motherfucker! This is what it's like at the high level. Guys know how to deal with the clinch. To the OP: here is a little tip to help you stifle your opponents clinch: do not go more than 50% try to break clinch. This is another thing that is like takedown attampts. trying to break the clinch too often will waste energy and allow your opponent to advance to better clinch positions, so try to keep your break clinch lower than 50%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylib Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 50% is astronomical, isn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylib Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Easier to break clinch while controlling? While stalling vs striking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Easier to break clinch while controlling? While stalling vs striking? I rarely use strike or control very highly, but if your fighter(s) have nothing to throw in the clinch, or u know it would be a waste of energy to even try, then it's probably best to try stalling and controlling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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