Scooby Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Guys, I know we barely have any experience with this because the option to predict opponent's sliders just became available, but what is everyones experiences with "adapt to fight" checked? Lets use this thread to discuss this and predictive sliders, im sure this will be a new learning curve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skap Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Ive done a screenshot of my sliders and my prediction for my oponents.. probably will for awhile so I can get a good feel for how its working. First fight with this will be in 5 hours... We'll SHIG it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skap Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o552/dnacanes/11_zps2d4d8ad3.png http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o552/dnacanes/12_zps011f4848.jpg Its hard to tell how much it really helped at this point but I was mainly worried about his leg kicks and being dragged into a clinch. I played it a bit safe on setting his predictions I think. What I did notice is we both missed a lot of shots so maybe it is working? Time will tell as I set more predictions and get a bit bolder with it in the future. If I were to guess Id say he predicted Id be attacking the body just from the amount that I missed but Im not sure. http://mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=706517 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I don't want to give details but I'll reveal that I have had two fights since the addition of predictions. I could have been more subtle with the settings, but I decided to try out the two extremes. I'm not saying it means much, because of all the other factors beside predictions, but these are the results.. Fight A. SHIG 100%, adapt ticked. Won. Fight B. SHIG 0%, adapt unchecked. Lost. Proves at least that 100% SHIG can be a winning tactic I guess? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Ive only had one fight,i predicted the guy to do a ton of takedowns and stuffed them all but its too hard to tell if the predictive sliders did anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorio Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Ive only had one fight,i predicted the guy to do a ton of takedowns and stuffed them all but its too hard to tell if the predictive sliders did anything Gosh hope my wrestler won't have all his takedown stuffed and get KTFO'd even though I can't make sure if the sliders did anything. (knock on wood...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLuke92 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 If I leave the prediction sliders as they are and have adapt to fight unticked can it really affect my fight much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 If I leave the prediction sliders as they are and have adapt to fight unticked can it really affect my fight much? In the end I think the only way you are affected is if your opponent decides to use predict tactics. It will only fuck you up if you use it with an unintelligent fighter or do not know what you are doing (which I think we may all be in the same boat there). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xanax Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Would default sliders and 100% SHIG > prediction settings? Of course the fighter variables would have to be within reason which is hard to do with all the randomness of the game but I think I'll test that next fight vs my multi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duphus Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 If you don't set the prediction sliders, the way I understand it is that it goes of opponents stats on what he does on average and basically auto sets the sliders to opponents stat levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duphus Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Thought I might mention something here cause I just noticed it or it changed, the prediction sliders will only show at the bottom of your fighters page if you have a fight offered or booked. Mine went away after a fight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuvnor Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 What happens when I predict my opponents tactics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skap Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 I believe if you predict them correctly, it will make your opponent less effective since you will know what hes about to do before he does it. He will land less punches, kicks, takedowns etc if you predict correctly. This is my understanding of it all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuvnor Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 I believe if you predict them correctly, it will make your opponent less effective since you will know what hes about to do before he does it. He will land less punches, kicks, takedowns etc if you predict correctly. This is my understanding of it all. I need to check that ''Adapt to fight'' so it works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skap Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Im sure it works, but Im still trying to figure it all out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skull Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 I need to check that ''Adapt to fight'' so it works? I think you only click the Adapt ticker if you think or know your fighter is intelligent. And if your prediction is off then i guess he will adjust as the fight goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duphus Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 I think you only click the Adapt ticker if you think or know your fighter is intelligent. And if your prediction is off then i guess he will adjust as the fight goes on. That may not be the best explanation. Checking that box will allow your fighter to adapt his predictions for the defensive bonus (basically start predicting moves off the moves actually being done by opponent is this particular fight). Intelligence is just part of the equation that determines how fast and how accurate he does this, now granted intell could be a very small or large part of this (at this point nobody really knows for sure but mike). Therefore a not so intell fighter could still gain from using this box as I don't think he will make stupid choices on what to defend just won't adapt very fast or well if you predict wrong and basically stay closer to your wrong predictions for longer then an intell fighter. It's not like he's going to decide to defend 100% combo on his own and be even worse, he just isn't going to adapt or recognize your predictions are wrong and either not change to correct it or be very slow to do so. There may be times that even if you had the fastest and most adaptive fighter ever made, that you might not want to check that box, from a tactical standpoint. Basically if you don't check that box, you fighter will stay with your predictions even if the fighter never does anything close to what you predicted and if you do he will adapt to his best ability to what is being thrown at him by average of moves in this fight. If you set prediction sliders, it will use them regardless of whether you check the box or not. If you don't set them it uses his average stats of all moves done over numerous fights to basically set the prediction for you. Example: your opponent over his fight history has never done a TD attempt, it will most likely set the TD prediction slider at zero (game engine basically sets the prediction sliders for you - not sure if mike had said if it averages a last certain number of fights or all previous fights for move stats to do prediction for you) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddennis2 Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 i have a feeling i'm going to like this feature. It makes me think about scouting your opponent and how effectively you are with that. No longer can you skim to the end! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) This fight In "General Sliders" I set 0% to try takedowns and 0% to counter takedowns. In "Predict opponents tactic" section I set a few % to "try takedowns" because Scot's opponent have subbed a few fighters. I'm not sure if I understood it correctly, but having 0% in try takedowns and 100% to SHIG causes that fighter is not going for TD. Maybe the fight engine interpreted "try takedowns" in "Predict opponents tactic" as my it would be a general slider? I ticked "adapt to a fight", but it shouldn't have caused that my fighter went for 2 TDs. EDIT: I hadn't set 100% SHIG, but I used that sentence about SHIG as inclusion to main part of the problem. Edited November 23, 2014 by zatochi725 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duphus Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Predictions will have no effect on what your fighter does (the way it's supposed to work), that is only what you think you opponent is going to do. The TD's your fighter did were all counter TD's so either there is an issue with the engine with the new updates (possible as there have been a few issues reported similar) or you accidentally had some counter TD on you counter sliders. Please check the sliders again and post back for mike to look at (probably need to make a post in the error section if sliders where set to NO TD's in counter) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) I meant that the fight engine might confuses % amount of "try takedowns" from "Predict opponent tactic" with % amount of "try takedowns" in "General Slider Section". I sent a in game mail to Mike couple of days ago, I'll send another one. Edit: Try takedowns in "general slider section" in both of section (striking & counter) was 0% as I wrote before. Edited November 23, 2014 by zatochi725 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duphus Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Just making sure, but it does seem like there are some errors with the engine on counters as it's been brought up several times now so it seems like the updates (my guess is the counter update more so then the prediction update is the real cause) have caused some issues. Keep posting any fight links in the error section so Mike has examples to figure out the issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted November 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 I meant that the fight engine might confuses % amount of "try takedowns" from "Predict opponent tactic" with % amount of "try takedowns" in "General Slider Section". I sent a in game mail to Mike couple of days ago, I'll send another one. Edit: Try takedowns in "general slider section" in both of section (striking & counter) was 0% as I wrote before. Oh no,how often does this happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Oh no,how often does this happen Sorry for the late reply, but Mike fixed it, almost right after my report via priv mail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skap Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Im still playing with this but only on my more experienced fighters atm. I have another fight soon were Im using the prediction sliders and a decent amount of SHIG... I will try to post if anything spectacular happens there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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