Change Sydney

[Timqwe]

We all know Sydney is basically dead, right? There is just one active org, and it's just too long of a flight for someone to start something. Why not change it to something like Hong Kong (GMT+8), Astana (GMT+6), Mumbai (GMT+5,5) or something like that to bridge the gap between Tokyo and Europe?

[Rei]

I was gonna suggest the same thing but never got around to it. I think adding something like Bangkok would be perfect in its place, especially given the fact that its in a country with combat history.

 

100% for it, sydney is an absolute deadzone.

[Ashbourne]

Please don't remove Sydney.

 

There are plenty of other cities for those that prefer convenience. Having Sydney as an option (no matter how "dead") doesn't hurt fighters that don't fight there. Which is exactly why I like it. It's its own environment. I have been planning to start an org there for ages but don't want to give up my gym just yet. To me, Sydney offers something different. It's not a location for people obsessed with energy, hype, rankings etc. Which makes it ideal for the roleplaying aspect of the game, or at least that's what I'm hoping. Just my opinion of course and hopefully I'll get to find out for myself.

Unless of course we change it to Singapore then FUCK SYDNEY.

[Timqwe]

Please don't remove Sydney.

 

There are plenty of other cities for those that prefer convenience. Having Sydney as an option (no matter how "dead") doesn't hurt fighters that don't fight there. Which is exactly why I like it. It's its own environment. I have been planning to start an org there for ages but don't want to give up my gym just yet. To me, Sydney offers something different. It's not a location for people obsessed with energy, hype, rankings etc. Which makes it ideal for the roleplaying aspect of the game, or at least that's what I'm hoping. Just my opinion of course and hopefully I'll get to find out for myself.

 

Unless of course we change it to Singapore then FUCK SYDNEY.

Imo, there's not much to role play with if no one can sustain an org or a gym there.

[Wolf]

Agree. Sydney has been dead since I joined, a few tired to revive it but it remains dead. Either remove to populate other cities or delete it and create a new city a bit closer to the world

[Ashbourne]

Imo, there's not much to role play with if no one can sustain an org or a gym there.

 

 

Looks like a lot of people share the same opinion as you!

[JakeF]

Completely agree that Sidney should be replaced. Now it is like a prison trap for newbies - some make fighters there and then cant get them out. Adding another active city to the game would be very nice, especially if that brings some new orgs.

[Mr.J]

I have heard rumors that fighter there in Sydney become depressed due to lack of employment which leads them to drown themselves in the ocean.

[Victorio]

I have heard rumors that fighter there in Sydney become depressed due to lack of employment which leads them to drown themselves in the ocean.

LOL at this. Honestly I can't recall a relatively famous org in Sydney. The city is like a wasteland and I always forget it to be honest as a base. Don't think it has a chance to be populated.

[MMATycoon]

I always had it because I thought there would be a decent number of Aussie / NZ users in the game. MMA doesn't seem to really have taken hold there yet though.

[KingEpicity]

I always had it because I thought there would be a decent number of Aussie / NZ users in the game. MMA doesn't seem to really have taken hold there yet though.

 

Which makes sense. I am surprised there isn't more in the game.

 

 

I always like the idea of having Australia in the game but the points people have made above really leave it no chance. Even Ashbourne's love for the wasteland isn't gonna change the fact it's almost impossible for it to become active.

 

At the moment the only viable way I see for an org to grow successful on a global scale while being based in Sydney is to have a large network and multiple VIPers supporting it with company slots. You need to have someone hold the org, at least 2-3 gyms willing to lose money for awhile to provide an avenue for managers to base their fighters there and at least 2-3 jets to fly the vast majority of the game who aren't willingly to commit a jet to fly a fighter all the way to and back from Sydney when it's in the complete different direction as everything else. Then you need another couple VIPers (who don't necessarily need to be working with you) to host a mid level ID org and a ID org for newer creations.) Then you probably want a nutrition company and a clothing company so people don't have to wait 3 days for their fighters to receive clothes if they choose Sydney as a base.

 

Now of course all of this is just my opinion and there is no guarantee it would work or wouldn't work but even after all that I suspect it would still fail in the long term of things. When it comes to a top org, people are more likely to choose an org closer to their own bases of London, LV, LA etc etc and people still won't want to fly their fighters out or make Sydney a base over the cities that are packed with options in every company type and every level of org. Even after all that I suspect you would never a few alliances backing it with their network of fighters and/or businesses and each org (especially the #1) would need to be extremely active in the message board with Hoarse level write ups.

 

It would take all of that imo and even then, who knows?

[Ashbourne]

[Erik]

I always had it because I thought there would be a decent number of Aussie / NZ users in the game. MMA doesn't seem to really have taken hold there yet though.

 

Most oceanic users who stick with the game play from different cities. Of course if you did want to fix Sydney you could put a non-insignificant rent cost on all businesses and vary it by city population.

 

 

LOL at this. Honestly I can't recall a relatively famous org in Sydney. The city is like a wasteland and I always forget it to be honest as a base. Don't think it has a chance to be populated.

 

That's because Sydney died horribly a couple of years before you joined. Used to have 3 pretty decent orgs and a stack of players, but the orgs all went down in the space of about 3 months and the lesser orgs never tried to build themselves up.

[Guest]

 

 

 

OK, this made me laugh....Give it your best shot, Ash. Who knows, maybe Sydney could become Island #2

[Guest]

Changing it to Bangkok would be fantastic. Maybe have some specialist orgs and gyms that focus on Muay Thai there.

[KingEpicity]

Changing it to Bangkok would be fantastic. Maybe have some specialist orgs and gyms that focus on Muay Thai there.

 

That become a great home for KT orgs.

[reggie]

Isn't that what Amsterdam represents, Dutch Kickboxing? Do we think the game would support two KT-themed cities when it hasn't even been supporting two long-term KT orgs? Kinda just playing devil's advocate. I like the idea of contracting, not so much just change where the cid is. Successfully relocating presupposes that the reason nobody goes to Sydney is because it's too far from the rest of the game; in no particular order, Tokyo, Hilo, Rio and Helsinki are all about as equipped and populated as Sydney in every way except orgs. You don't have to have an org in Sydney to sign fighters in Sydney and put on an event in Sydney.

 

It looks like the only problem with Sydney (and Rio, let's be honest) is that none of the power users are using it. Basically, what Ryan said, but it really doesn't stop at Sydney. Sydney is the worst ghost town, but Hilo, Rio and Helsinki aren't very far behind.

[Timqwe]

True, especially Hilo and Rio have the same problem. It's because they are in the southern hemisphere, it just takes forever to fly there. However, Rio and Hilo are not as far away from the other city's, or as dead as Sydney.

[MMATycoon]

The way I always thought we should even out the cities was to have a certain number of viewers / spectators in an area and build that into PPV / attendance numbers. Too many orgs in one location and the attendances are PPV revenue would start to dwindle. Tricky to bring in to an established game but if you ease it in over time then it should be fine.

[reggie]

Right now, the only reason people book in different cities is the dearth of high capacity arenas. The competition between maybe half a dozen orgs for Wombley and LA seems to still have room to grow. If you wanna spread it around a lot more easily, just add something like Homebush Stadium with a 72,393 capacity and watch orgs start to notice Sydney again. Well, maybe. There isn't any demand for the 42k seater in Tokyo, so maybe a new stadium wouldn't matter.

[Jax]

Sydney died when Louie left.

[sabaton]

The way I always thought we should even out the cities was to have a certain number of viewers / spectators in an area and build that into PPV / attendance numbers. Too many orgs in one location and the attendances are PPV revenue would start to dwindle. Tricky to bring in to an established game but if you ease it in over time then it should be fine.

 

I think the KISS method should be best. Keep It Simple, Stupid.

Just cut the travel time and costs in half.

Maybe that looks funny on the map page to be able and travel from NY to sydney quicker than Tokyo, but so what? It's a game. Better a simple solution to repopulate the city than something difficult and time consuming like the above.

 

When I first joined the game, I joined Sydney. LIke many others, I couldn't get out. I had to release my fighters. There was no money back then to afford the move. I mostly moved because of the time zone though since I can't watch my fights "live" at 5AM! lol But now, like everyone else has said, there's nothing there. Primarly because it is difficult to travel to. So, make it easy to travel to. Hell, make it instant and free! See if that works. If not, then blow it up. Heck of a lot simpler, and quicker, fix than trying to adjust PPV stuff.

[Mentor]

I mean, imagine you are from Australia and they "relocate" you to Hong Kong because "your country is dead". I mean relocating everyone to another city wont solve the issue. One of the main reasons Sydney is in the positions it is (besides the general lack of people from that country) also has to do with the travel time/costs etc. If you reduce that, it will improve the situation somewhat.