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https://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=1094690

 

Viktor Babinski (SYN) W vs B. Floyd (Smash) L

 

Viktor was then allowed to leave and go defend.

 

Upcoming bouts:

Kilo (SYN) vs. Trollslayer (Highland)

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Ispa Perkele (SYN) vs. Rod De Minuar (Combate)

https://mmatycoon.com/scoutfight.php?fida=361870&fidb=358439

 

Randy Randleman (SYN) vs. Baldur Torsten (SMASH)

https://mmatycoon.com/scoutfight.php?fida=356064&fidb=345054

 

Sitsongrit (SYN) vs. De Geno (Odense)

https://mmatycoon.com/scoutfight.php?fida=334093&fidb=371743

 

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11 hours ago, Icon73 said:

https://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=1094690

Viktor Babinski (SYN) W vs B. Floyd (Smash) L

Viktor was then allowed to leave and go defend.

 

 

Updated after that fight

Season 7 STANDINGS

GAMMA 15

Syn 11

SMASH 3

Combate 2

Sucker Punch Pro Series 1

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On 10/29/2022 at 6:27 PM, Icon73 said:

https://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=1094690

 

Viktor Babinski (SYN) W vs B. Floyd (Smash) L

 

Viktor was then allowed to leave and go defend.

 

Upcoming bouts:

Kilo (SYN) vs. Trollslayer (Highland)

https://mmatycoon.com/scoutfight.php?fida=340183&fidb=373423

 

Ispa Perkele (SYN) vs. Rod De Minuar (Combate)

https://mmatycoon.com/scoutfight.php?fida=361870&fidb=358439

 

Randy Randleman (SYN) vs. Baldur Torsten (SMASH)

https://mmatycoon.com/scoutfight.php?fida=356064&fidb=345054

 

Sitsongrit (SYN) vs. De Geno (Odense)

https://mmatycoon.com/scoutfight.php?fida=334093&fidb=371743

 

Kilo (W SYN) vs Trollslayer (L Highland)

https://mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=1098214

 

 

Ispa (L SYN) vs Rod (W Combate)

 

https://mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=1099028

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On 7/21/2022 at 9:55 AM, Mentor said:

That is actually an interesting concept, "lineal champions", i do not think i ever heard it in this game.

Yeah lineal IMO is the most important thing. The man who beat the man. Much easier to keep track of when I can check title history and see someone took the belt, then I can follow the break. 

 

If you ever wanted to check out the current lineage of all the IRL belts Fight Matrix has the best documentation of it. Some of the belts history dates back to 1989! Back when Shooto was the only MMA promotion.

 

Crazy enough every UFC belt has become unified with the lineal world championship.

https://www.fightmatrix.com/lineal-championship-histories/

 

 

If you wanted to see just UFC lineage here is the UFC titles here is the UFC 1 lineage

 

Royce Gracie -> Sakuraba -> Igor Vovchanchyn -> Mark Coleman -> Big Nog -> Fedor -> Werdum -> Overeem -> Bigfoot Silva -> Cain -> Werdum -> Stipe -> DC -> Stipe -> Francis

 

 

 

What's very cool to me is that even though it breaks off it unifies again with the UFC Heavyweight championship lineage

 

 

 

Coleman -> Smith -> Couture -> Inoue -> Mark Kerr-> Fujita -> Mark Coleman -> Big Nog -> Fedor -> Werdum -> Overeem -> Bigfoot Silva -> Cain -> Werdum -> Stipe -> DC -> Stipe -> Francis

 

Here's one currently keeping track for boxing if you watch boxing and wanna check that out

 

https://www.linealboxingchampion.com/new-page-69

 

I would need to verify how good their lists are as I haven't yet but the couple of champions I seen currently seemed accurate so I'm assuming its a well researched website but take that with a grain of salt.

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3 hours ago, Icon73 said:

Kilo (W SYN) vs Trollslayer (L Highland)

https://mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=1098214

 

 

Ispa (L SYN) vs Rod (W Combate)

 

https://mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=1099028

Season 7 STANDINGS

GAMMA 15

Syn 15

Combate 5

SMASH 3

Highland 1

Sucker Punch Pro Series 1

Updated after those 2 fights

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4 minutes ago, soyster89 said:

Nah, should be a world title that's defended in various orgs. Not enough of the fighters join the Olympics.

I mean you'd run into the same issue not everyone will get there shot in time.

 

The Olympics how it was done this year is the best way to determine it. Also almost everyone was in it this year and I think turnout will be even better next year. 

 

The idea is a great one in theory but a 3-4 days no energy loss tournament format seems to be the best way to see all the best fight the best without scheduling conflicts. 

 

Just my opinion though.

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I cant see there ever really being a "world title holder", technically speaking, the #1 ranked fighter is that for the division. If we could keep a record dating back, it would be awesome.

I like how the Olympics worked this year, all fights happened mid week and no energy loss and i think there was also a lowered hype loss. I am not sure though, this year, could anyone sign up and the highest ranking fighters took place?

The "lineal" idea is a real thing as well, in other words the "champ who beat the champ". It could technically be done, dating back to the original PPV org (Syn), simply take the original champs from the PPV era and then see, if (lets say), the Syn champ lost the title to somebody outside of the org, then the lineal history continues with the new winner and so on. It would be interesting to do a lineal history for each belt.

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I understand how the Olympics COULD be a solid argument in crowning a World Champion, but it doesn't in our current state. Look at the Lt HW division. Here are the current rankings.

Torhte Finlayson - Ranked #1, current Highland 205 champ (wasn't in the Olympics)

Randy Randleman - Ranked #2, current Syn 205 champ (wasn't in the Olympics)

Mohammed Kahn - Ranked #3, current Combate 205 champ (wasn't in the Olympics)

Mike McGuire - Ranked #4, current GAMMA 205 champ (wasn't in the Olympics)

Joosep L�hmus - Ranked #5, 2022 Olympic silver medalist

Boris Krylov - Ranked #6 (wasn't in the Olympics)

Baldur Torsten - Ranked #7, current SMASH 205 champ (wasn't in the Olympics)

Mike Okafor - Ranked #8, current Odense 205 champ (lost in the Olympics QF rd)

Jeremy Jones - Ranked #9, current Sucker Punch 205 champ (wasn't in the Olympics)

But if you take a closer look at those rankings, there's no clear World Champion. You could make an argument for several of the fighters. The Olympic gold medalist (Simon Gustafsson) isn't even ranked in the top 10 (he's ranked 55 and is 4-6 since the Olympics). That's not a "World Champion". 

If we had a Tycoon World Title that could transfer and be defended from fighter to fighter, and org to org, you'd always have a true world title. It would be a title belt managers could try and add to the trophy case. 

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5 hours ago, soyster89 said:

I understand how the Olympics COULD be a solid argument in crowning a World Champion, but it doesn't in our current state. Look at the Lt HW division. Here are the current rankings.

Torhte Finlayson - Ranked #1, current Highland 205 champ (wasn't in the Olympics)

Randy Randleman - Ranked #2, current Syn 205 champ (wasn't in the Olympics)

Mohammed Kahn - Ranked #3, current Combate 205 champ (wasn't in the Olympics)

Mike McGuire - Ranked #4, current GAMMA 205 champ (wasn't in the Olympics)

Joosep L�hmus - Ranked #5, 2022 Olympic silver medalist

Boris Krylov - Ranked #6 (wasn't in the Olympics)

Baldur Torsten - Ranked #7, current SMASH 205 champ (wasn't in the Olympics)

Mike Okafor - Ranked #8, current Odense 205 champ (lost in the Olympics QF rd)

Jeremy Jones - Ranked #9, current Sucker Punch 205 champ (wasn't in the Olympics)

But if you take a closer look at those rankings, there's no clear World Champion. You could make an argument for several of the fighters. The Olympic gold medalist (Simon Gustafsson) isn't even ranked in the top 10 (he's ranked 55 and is 4-6 since the Olympics). That's not a "World Champion". 

If we had a Tycoon World Title that could transfer and be defended from fighter to fighter, and org to org, you'd always have a true world title. It would be a title belt managers could try and add to the trophy case. 

205.jpg

Yes 6 months later its likely the Olympics won't represent the current rankings.

 

But neither would a belt like you're describing. The fighter would just end up defending against the guys in their own org. It would be no different from any other belt.

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9 hours ago, Mentor said:

I cant see there ever really being a "world title holder", technically speaking, the #1 ranked fighter is that for the division. If we could keep a record dating back, it would be awesome.

I like how the Olympics worked this year, all fights happened mid week and no energy loss and i think there was also a lowered hype loss. I am not sure though, this year, could anyone sign up and the highest ranking fighters took place?

The "lineal" idea is a real thing as well, in other words the "champ who beat the champ". It could technically be done, dating back to the original PPV org (Syn), simply take the original champs from the PPV era and then see, if (lets say), the Syn champ lost the title to somebody outside of the org, then the lineal history continues with the new winner and so on. It would be interesting to do a lineal history for each belt.

This is probably my next project.

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11 minutes ago, Icon73 said:

Yes 6 months later its likely the Olympics won't represent the current rankings.

But neither would a belt like you're describing. The fighter would just end up defending against the guys in their own org. It would be no different from any other belt.

So when does Randleman fight Finlayson or Kahn? Let's make these fights happen! :)

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