Fallen.Angel Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 11 hours ago, MasterLeader said: Okay it is now past the 11.59pm GMT deadline for 2 picks. Gained $45,000 tonight. My 2 picks for next week: 1 - Song Yadong - $15,000 2 - Ketlen Vieira - $25,000 (first female in my camp) Leaves me with a healthy $5,000 and two guys fighting on Wednesday. Fallen Angel - can you please use the post on the front page for camp values, please copy mine so you’ve got all the camp banners in and summarise a top 8 by camp value somewhere also 9 hours ago, Gonzasco said: I would like to pickup Su Mudaerji $10,000 Unranked noted ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MasterLeader Posted January 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 I have now updated my Camp Banner (had to delete attachments to free up space for upload limit). If you upload via jpg it also reduces file quality so pixelates, so worth noting that png is the way forward! More badass background and made it 500 px width to blend in with some of the larger ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen.Angel Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 UFC Fight Island 7 : Holloway vs. Kattar - RESULTS Main Card (Camp MasterLeader) Max Holloway vs. Calvin Kattar (Camp Skenoj) --- CAMP RIVALRY + 5K SIDE BET Carlos Condit vs. Matt Brown (Camp Gonzasco) Santiago Ponzinibbio vs. Li Jingliang (Camp 1rstSaint) Joaquin Buckley vs. Alessio Di Chirico (Camp MasterLeader) Dusko Todorovic vs. Punahele Soriano Preliminary Card Phil Hawes vs. Nassourdine Imavov Wu Yanan vs. Joeelyne Edwards Omari Ahkmedov vs. Tom Breese Carlos Felipe vs. Justin Tafa David Zawada vs. Ramazan Emeev (Camp MasterLeader) Sarah Moras vs. Vanessa Melo Austin Lingo vs. Jacob Kilburn Camp MasterLeader: ( 10+10+7+7+5 (BET) + 2 + 2+2 = 45K) (Finish : -1 ) Max Holloway [#1] - 10k Dusko Todorovic - 2k Ramazan Emeev - 2k Camp Skenoj: ( 5+5 -5 (BET) = 5k) (Finish: 0) - Calvin Kattar [#6] - 5k Camp Gonzasco: ( 2k ) (Finish: -1) -Santiago Ponzinibbio - 2k Camp 1rstSaint: ( 2k ) (Finish: -1) -Joaquin Buckley - 2k 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen.Angel Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 will update the camp values after the new rankings are out ... but most probably after the next two events Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 Copied directly out of Excel so no idea how this is going to look... Updated as of right now, so includes all post event fighter purchases up to now. Not particularly informative as so few fights have happened. Fallen Angel, please calculate the total standings (incl camp values) when you can. For those interested, i deducted the $200,000 initial funds from "Purchases" below hence why a lot of people have a positive purchases value as they didn't spend all their funds. Once cash starts coming in from events that will inevitably revert to negative. Overall standings (excl camp values) Rank Name Record Finishes Funds Total 1 FallenAngel 3.75 5 4.5 13.25 1 Gator001 3.75 5 4.5 13.25 3 MasterLeader 7 1 4.5 12.5 4 Skenoj 2 5 4.5 11.5 5 The1rstSaint 2 1 7 10 6 Popart 3.75 5 0.5 9.25 6 Runt 3.75 5 0.5 9.25 8 Gonzasco 2 1 2 5 Record ranking Name Win % Record % Score MasterLeader 7 7 7 FallenAngel 3 4.5 3.75 Gator001 3 4.5 3.75 Popart 3 4.5 3.75 Runt 3 4.5 3.75 The1rstSaint 3 1 2 Gonzasco 3 1 2 Skenoj 3 1 2 Win % Name Score Points MasterLeader 67% 7 Gator001 0% 3 FallenAngel 0% 3 The1rstSaint 0% 3 Gonzasco 0% 3 Popart 0% 3 Runt 0% 3 Skenoj 0% 3 Record Name Wins Losses Points MasterLeader 2 1 7 FallenAngel 0 0 4.5 Gator001 0 0 4.5 Popart 0 0 4.5 Runt 0 0 4.5 The1rstSaint 0 1 1 Gonzasco 0 1 1 Skenoj 0 1 1 Net finishes ranking Name Net finishes Score FallenAngel 0 5 Gator001 0 5 Popart 0 5 Runt 0 5 Skenoj 0 5 The1rstSaint -1 1 MasterLeader -1 1 Gonzasco -1 1 Funds ranking Name Event income (Purchases) Sales Total Score The1rstSaint 2000 40000 0 42000 7 MasterLeader 45000 -40000 0 5000 4.5 Gator001 0 5000 0 5000 4.5 FallenAngel 0 5000 0 5000 4.5 Skenoj 5000 0 0 5000 4.5 Gonzasco 2000 0 0 2000 2 Popart 0 0 0 0 0.5 Runt 0 0 0 0 0.5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 Guys, there is a possibility I have a flaw in my excel spreadsheet which auto calculates the majority of the scores/standings. Please try to check some of your own scores as I go along and I will refine the formulae as this season progresses. This should be more reliable/consistent than manual calculations I have done in previous seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen.Angel Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, MasterLeader said: Copied directly out of Excel so no idea how this is going to look... Updated as of right now, so includes all post event fighter purchases up to now. Not particularly informative as so few fights have happened. Fallen Angel, please calculate the total standings (incl camp values) when you can. For those interested, i deducted the $200,000 initial funds from "Purchases" below hence why a lot of people have a positive purchases value as they didn't spend all their funds. Once cash starts coming in from events that will inevitably revert to negative. Overall standings (excl camp values) Rank Name Record Finishes Funds Total 1 FallenAngel 3.75 5 4.5 13.25 1 Gator001 3.75 5 4.5 13.25 3 MasterLeader 7 1 4.5 12.5 4 Skenoj 2 5 4.5 11.5 5 The1rstSaint 2 1 7 10 6 Popart 3.75 5 0.5 9.25 6 Runt 3.75 5 0.5 9.25 8 Gonzasco 2 1 2 5 Record ranking Name Win % Record % Score MasterLeader 7 7 7 FallenAngel 3 4.5 3.75 Gator001 3 4.5 3.75 Popart 3 4.5 3.75 Runt 3 4.5 3.75 The1rstSaint 3 1 2 Gonzasco 3 1 2 Skenoj 3 1 2 Win % Name Score Points MasterLeader 67% 7 Gator001 0% 3 FallenAngel 0% 3 The1rstSaint 0% 3 Gonzasco 0% 3 Popart 0% 3 Runt 0% 3 Skenoj 0% 3 Record Name Wins Losses Points MasterLeader 2 1 7 FallenAngel 0 0 4.5 Gator001 0 0 4.5 Popart 0 0 4.5 Runt 0 0 4.5 The1rstSaint 0 1 1 Gonzasco 0 1 1 Skenoj 0 1 1 Net finishes ranking Name Net finishes Score FallenAngel 0 5 Gator001 0 5 Popart 0 5 Runt 0 5 Skenoj 0 5 The1rstSaint -1 1 MasterLeader -1 1 Gonzasco -1 1 Funds ranking Name Event income (Purchases) Sales Total Score The1rstSaint 2000 40000 0 42000 7 MasterLeader 45000 -40000 0 5000 4.5 Gator001 0 5000 0 5000 4.5 FallenAngel 0 5000 0 5000 4.5 Skenoj 5000 0 0 5000 4.5 Gonzasco 2000 0 0 2000 2 Popart 0 0 0 0 0.5 Runt 0 0 0 0 0.5 Awesome ! I have trouble making a simple spreadsheet sometims with Excel this is really nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen.Angel Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 UFC Fight Island 8 : Chiesa vs. Magny Michael Chiesa vs. Neil Magny Warlley Alves vs. Mounir Lazzez (Camp 1rstSaint) Ike Villanueva vs. Vinicius Moreira Roxanne Modafferi vs. Viviane Araujo Matt Schnell vs. Tyson Nam (Camp MasterLeader) Lerone Murphy vs. Douglas Silva de Andrade Omari Akhmedov vs. Tom Breese (Camp Gonzasco) Ricky Simon vs. Gaetano Pirrello (Camp Gonzasco) Su Mudaerji vs. Zarrukh Adashev Dalcha Lungiambula vs. Markus Perez Francisco Figueiredo vs. Jerome Rivera Mike Davis vs. Mason Jones (Camp Runt) (Camp MasterLeader) Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Sergey Morozov Victoria Leonardo vs. Manon Fiorot Camp 1rstSaint: -Mounir Lazzez - 2k Camp MasterLeader: -Lerone Murphy - 2k -Umar Nurmagomedov - 2k Camp Gonzasco: -Ricky Simon - 2k -Su Mudaerji - 2k Camp Runt: -Mason Jones -2k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen.Angel Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 btw Mcgregor is #15 in Welterweight rankings ... I mean come on! The next thing we know is he will be having a ranking in every division, just in case it's not like there aren't any other active 170lbs fighters that deserve the ranking may be they have plans ... you know 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1rstSaint Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 9 am start for this event, wth. I was very close to picking up Fiorot. I think her chin warts killed the deal for me, she is a killer though All jokes aside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator001 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, The1rstSaint said: 9 am start for this event, wth. I was very close to picking up Fiorot. I think her chin warts killed the deal for me, she is a killer though All jokes aside. she was my biggest bet irl for all 3 abu dhabi cards. ABsolute lock in that match up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Umar looked insane!!! I knew Morozov wouldn't be easy but he outclassed him on the feet, ground and showed good defence EDIT - Lerone Murphy fight was so stressful to watch ; Andrade looked dangerous at times and could've easily won by sub/KO. That being said, round 1 was comfortably Murphy's, rounds 2 & 3 were both close but I scored it Murphy 2 and Silva 3. Unanimous for Murphy wasn't surprising but I had a feeling it might've been a split or even a robbery. Murphy needs to improve his fight IQ because he has mad potential. Really good fight though and could be FOTN (much like Umar could get a POTN for his whole performance and the sub). EDIT - Usman POTN - well deserved such a well rounded performance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Great result for you Gonzasco. Fallen Angel will post the individual event results and camp values. Here are the overall standings (camp values excluded): Overall standings (excl camp values) Rank Name Record Finishes Funds Total 1 MasterLeader 7 4 6 17 2 Gonzasco 6 4 5 15 3 FallenAngel 3.25 4 2.5 9.75 3 Gator001 3.25 4 2.5 9.75 5 Skenoj 2 4 2.5 8.5 5 Runt 2 4 2.5 8.5 6 The1rstSaint 1.25 0 7 8.25 7 Popart 3.25 4 0 7.25 Record ranking Name Win % Record % Points MasterLeader 7 7 7 Gonzasco 6 6 6 FallenAngel 2.5 4 3.25 Gator001 2.5 4 3.25 Popart 2.5 4 3.25 Runt 2.5 1.5 2 Skenoj 2.5 1.5 2 The1rstSaint 2.5 0 1.25 Win % Name Win % Points MasterLeader 80% 7 Gonzasco 67% 6 Gator001 0% 2.5 FallenAngel 0% 2.5 The1rstSaint 0% 2.5 Popart 0% 2.5 Runt 0% 2.5 Skenoj 0% 2.5 Record Name Wins Losses Points MasterLeader 4 1 7 Gonzasco 2 1 6 FallenAngel 0 0 4 Gator001 0 0 4 Popart 0 0 4 Runt 0 1 1.5 Skenoj 0 1 1.5 The1rstSaint 0 2 0 Net finishes ranking Name Net finishes Points FallenAngel 0 4 Gator001 0 4 Popart 0 4 Runt 0 4 Skenoj 0 4 MasterLeader 0 4 Gonzasco 0 4 The1rstSaint -2 0 Funds ranking Name Event income (Purchases) Sales Total Points The1rstSaint 4000 40000 0 44000 7 MasterLeader 56000 -40000 0 16000 6 Gonzasco 10000 0 0 10000 5 Gator001 0 5000 0 5000 2.5 FallenAngel 0 5000 0 5000 2.5 Skenoj 5000 0 0 5000 2.5 Runt 5000 0 0 5000 2.5 Popart 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runt Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 I honestly thought Mason Jones would do a lot better than that. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Runt said: I honestly thought Mason Jones would do a lot better than that. Oh well. You actually got more income from the FOTN bonus than you would have if he won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Also guys - before this comes into fruition, we haven't formally made a ruling on the following: If a fighter loses by DQ how do you want that to be scored in the game? Option 1) A finish loss (impacts both your record and net finishes) (This was the rule in 2019, however was never voted on) Option 2) Not a finish loss (impacts your record, but net finishes remains unaffected) Option 3) No impact on your record but you're paid nothing (ie fight is voided) (I believe this was the rule in 2017 when The1rstSaint's fighter lost) Option 4) Any other proposals? I'd put forward option 2 as a loss in itself is frustrating enough when a fighter loses by DQ, where often they are winning the fight. I wouldn't argue that losing by DQ is being "finished", but if a finish is defined as a fight which doesn't go to a decision then by definition option 1 makes the most sense. I for one do not agree with that definition and think a finish is a win by KO/TKO/TKO(Cuts)/Sub. It also means under option 2 that a fighter isn't double penalised (eg under option 1 if you had Jon Jones in your camp when he lost to Matt Hamill then you would've got a finish loss, harming 2 out of 4 categories, when we all know in reality Jon Jones was winning comfortably so even option 2 seems harsh but it is what it is). My vote is therefore for Option 2. If your fighter is dominating a fight and loses by DQ that's just bad luck, but the lesser of two evils when compared to Option 1. Sorry for the essay. Happy to go with the majority. Good to rule on these things before they actually happen at the expense of a camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 For those of you interested, this is the template I have to fill in for each event, which then updates a summary table (see second screenshot below), which feeds into my automatic calculations on the front "Summary" tab, which is what i use to copy and paste the standings into the forum. To manage Camp League this year all I have to do is fill in the non grey cells in the first screenshot, the orange cells in the second screenshot and then manually sort each ranking table and ensure the points per camp are accurate. Means there is less room for human error and it only takes me c10 minutes to compute everything and copy into the forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runt Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 16 hours ago, MasterLeader said: You actually got more income from the FOTN bonus than you would have if he won True, but having seen his previous fights I expected a more dominant performance from him, and a win. But, that's the fight game I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runt Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 hours ago, MasterLeader said: Also guys - before this comes into fruition, we haven't formally made a ruling on the following: If a fighter loses by DQ how do you want that to be scored in the game? Option 1) A finish loss (impacts both your record and net finishes) (This was the rule in 2019, however was never voted on) Option 2) Not a finish loss (impacts your record, but net finishes remains unaffected) Option 3) No impact on your record but you're paid nothing (ie fight is voided) (I believe this was the rule in 2017 when The1rstSaint's fighter lost) Option 4) Any other proposals? I'd put forward option 2 as a loss in itself is frustrating enough when a fighter loses by DQ, where often they are winning the fight. I wouldn't argue that losing by DQ is being "finished", but if a finish is defined as a fight which doesn't go to a decision then by definition option 1 makes the most sense. I for one do not agree with that definition and think a finish is a win by KO/TKO/TKO(Cuts)/Sub. It also means under option 2 that a fighter isn't double penalised (eg under option 1 if you had Jon Jones in your camp when he lost to Matt Hamill then you would've got a finish loss, harming 2 out of 4 categories, when we all know in reality Jon Jones was winning comfortably so even option 2 seems harsh but it is what it is). My vote is therefore for Option 2. If your fighter is dominating a fight and loses by DQ that's just bad luck, but the lesser of two evils when compared to Option 1. Sorry for the essay. Happy to go with the majority. Good to rule on these things before they actually happen at the expense of a camp. If a fighter gets DQd, they lose the fight. They still get paid for showing up, but they did the wrong thing and lost the fight, so i'd say option 2 seems most fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator001 Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 i am good with option 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen.Angel Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 UFC Fight Island 8 : Chiesa vs. Magny - RESULTS Michael Chiesa vs. Neil Magny Warlley Alves vs. Mounir Lazzez (Camp 1rstSaint) Ike Villanueva vs. Vinicius Moreira Roxanne Modafferi vs. Viviane Araujo Matt Schnell vs. Tyson Nam (Camp MasterLeader) Lerone Murphy vs. Douglas Silva de Andrade Omari Akhmedov vs. Tom Breese (Camp Gonzasco) Ricky Simon vs. Gaetano Pirrello (Camp Gonzasco) Su Mudaerji vs. Zarrukh Adashev Dalcha Lungiambula vs. Markus Perez Francisco Figueiredo vs. Jerome Rivera Mike Davis vs. Mason Jones (Camp Runt) (Camp MasterLeader) Umar Nurmagomedov vs. Sergey Morozov Victoria Leonardo vs. Manon Fiorot Camp 1rstSaint: ( 2k ) (Finish: -1) -Mounir Lazzez - 2k Camp MasterLeader: (2 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 3(POTN) = 11k) (Finish: +1) -Lerone Murphy - 2k -Umar Nurmagomedov - 2k Camp Gonzasco: ( 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 8k) (Finish: +1) -Ricky Simon - 2k -Su Mudaerji - 2k Camp Runt: ( 2 + 3(POTN) =5k) (Finish: 0) -Mason Jones -2k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen.Angel Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 On 1/20/2021 at 7:42 PM, The1rstSaint said: 9 am start for this event, wth. I was very close to picking up Fiorot. I think her chin warts killed the deal for me, she is a killer though All jokes aside. damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen.Angel Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 21 hours ago, MasterLeader said: Also guys - before this comes into fruition, we haven't formally made a ruling on the following: If a fighter loses by DQ how do you want that to be scored in the game? Option 1) A finish loss (impacts both your record and net finishes) (This was the rule in 2019, however was never voted on) Option 2) Not a finish loss (impacts your record, but net finishes remains unaffected) Option 3) No impact on your record but you're paid nothing (ie fight is voided) (I believe this was the rule in 2017 when The1rstSaint's fighter lost) Option 4) Any other proposals? I'd put forward option 2 as a loss in itself is frustrating enough when a fighter loses by DQ, where often they are winning the fight. I wouldn't argue that losing by DQ is being "finished", but if a finish is defined as a fight which doesn't go to a decision then by definition option 1 makes the most sense. I for one do not agree with that definition and think a finish is a win by KO/TKO/TKO(Cuts)/Sub. It also means under option 2 that a fighter isn't double penalised (eg under option 1 if you had Jon Jones in your camp when he lost to Matt Hamill then you would've got a finish loss, harming 2 out of 4 categories, when we all know in reality Jon Jones was winning comfortably so even option 2 seems harsh but it is what it is). My vote is therefore for Option 2. If your fighter is dominating a fight and loses by DQ that's just bad luck, but the lesser of two evils when compared to Option 1. Sorry for the essay. Happy to go with the majority. Good to rule on these things before they actually happen at the expense of a camp. I think a DQ loss should be counted as a loss no matter if a fighter was dominating prior to that or not. DQ means doing something illegal (unless referee screws things up, but nowadays we have this review thingy right? though we haven't seen it in effect) but it shouldn't be counted as a finish loss. My opinion So that's Option 2 right? 21 hours ago, MasterLeader said: For those of you interested, this is the template I have to fill in for each event, which then updates a summary table (see second screenshot below), which feeds into my automatic calculations on the front "Summary" tab, which is what i use to copy and paste the standings into the forum. To manage Camp League this year all I have to do is fill in the non grey cells in the first screenshot, the orange cells in the second screenshot and then manually sort each ranking table and ensure the points per camp are accurate. Means there is less room for human error and it only takes me c10 minutes to compute everything and copy into the forum. Good work mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 Awesome guys - glad we’re all on the same page, will update rules to include this decision on DQ losses in line with option 2. If anyone else has any objections please comment but for now it’s option 2 Bit of luck for you this time @Fallen.Angel- Tsarukyan now has an easier opponent after the Azaitar debacle! :’) Event post for UFC 257 on its way shortly? Busy week for both of us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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