Guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I don't think I've ever seen a Brock bomb as far as a punch goes, his GN'P is pretty brutal, but I don't recall seeing a big punch out of him? He rocked Couture with a standing elbow in their fight I believe. Still, I wouldn't want to be punched in the face by one of those mailbox fists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 If you can break a fighter's orbital cavity with a straight punch then you have power in your punches. I wonder what would happen if Brock learns to use combinations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffWanderer Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I can't help but feel that they are avoiding the subject of Velasquez's chin as a subject. Kongo rocked him on several occasions. Now there is no doubt that Cain has a big technical advantage on the feet but for me there is always a chance of Brock landing on big strike. That could be enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 brocks punch can knock you down and not even really hurt you -- example with herring -- just gives him the chance to get on top and do more damage --- personally im going for brock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 brocks punch can knock you down and not even really hurt you -- example with herring -- just gives him the chance to get on top and do more damage --- personally im going for brock That punch broke Herring's orbital cavity. You think that doesn't hurt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffWanderer Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 That punch broke Herring's orbital cavity. You think that doesn't hurt? I have to agree with this. I suspect this says more about how hard Herrings head/ how much heart he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 That punch broke Herring's orbital cavity. You think that doesn't hurt? Indeed, your right. Anything can happen, but I gotta roll with Brock on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I believe a lot of you underestimate Cain's wrestling. Think about how much trouble Brock had grappling with Randy when he was a lot lighter than Brock. I am not saying Cain's wrestling is as good as Randy's, but he is by far better than anyone has given him credit for. He even placed fifth and fourth in the country while wrestling in college, which he transitioned directly from into MMA. Brock had 10 years in between college wrestling and going into MMA, so he is not the NCAA Division One champion skilled wrestler he once was. Still good? Absolutely. But with all that time off, he may not be better skilled in that than Velasquez with so much time away from it. Furthermore, what if this does become a wrestling match, and Cain finds his way on top. Brock is huge, and is a wrestler. Would he give up his back from punches, considering how he fled when he got hit by Carwin? Shane did get "on top", though he never turned it into a grappling match and I am wondering how it would turn out if Brock was on the bottom with a speedy wrestler like Cain who has the energy to strike a lot, and pick his shots. I do think Cain can find the right moment to shoot and get him down, though that aside, how do you think Brock would do on his back? We all talk about Brock taking him down, though what if it turns out the other way around? Enlighten me. As I said. I knew how it'd go down despite the nonbelievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Brock has been exposed! Time for Frank Mir to make his next championship run! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffWanderer Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 As I said. I knew how it'd go down despite the nonbelievers. Fair play to you, you called that. ------------------ Lesnar came out (before the fight) looking afraid. Fighters who look like that are coming to the end of their careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpierrecanada Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I bet on Cody McKenzie by guillotine choke. Also Lesnar, Ortiz, Gonzaga, Thiago and Shields. You didn't do so well then my friend.. I called it, Cain first round TKO, beauty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 CAIN 'The Real Deal' VELASQUEZ Naysayers...shhh seriously though i liked em both but i've always been super impressed with cain from the first time he fought in the UFC and hearing what trainers and other fighters were saying about him. i knew he would do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajperok Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 So much for all that cardio work Lesnar put in.... like I said before the fight, why would Brock slim down... his size was his best weapon, he was never going to out quick Cain... just dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 i knew lesnar couldn't out wrestle cain tbh. Brock is all bum rush and no technique. cain is great technique. did anyone see when cain was about to take brock down brock held the fence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Didn't find a thread, so..who you got? I'm betting on Velasquez, all the way (though I'm rooting for Brock). Not sold at all on Lesnars supposedly "unstoppable takedowns". They have on the contrary shown to be very stoppable by both Couture, Mir and Carwin, most of his TD's coming from mistakes made by his opponents. His only window of opportunity is to pin Cain against the fence and muscle him to the ground from there, pin him again and give him the Mir treatment. That is his only chance of winning, and that is a position Cains camp have been training to get out of for 14 weeks. Cain also has a good chin and great recovery as the Kongo fight showed, so combined with his slick wrestling I think he stands a good chance of escaping in time. Standing, Lesnar will get schooled, picked apart for 5 rounds or TKO'd in the 4-5th due to gassing and being overwhelmed with strikes. My thoughts exactly. I bet on Cain as he is by far the better fighter and a total mis-match for the dancing hulk. Now I'm off to spend my winnings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Answer this in a question and answer format Who is the better fighter? Cain Valesquez Who will be the long term future of heavyweight? Cain Valesquez Who will win Saturday? Brock Lesnar I see the fight going the same way as Lesnar/Carwin with Valesquez being able to dominate Lesnar however I see Lesnar getting one opportunity and finishing the fight. The guy really is a genetic freak and I am fairly convinced people will struggle to beat him the first time around but will win quite easily the second time so whoever gets the first rematch will be the new champion. D'oh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 So, congrats to Tilthammer, Big Mikey T., and Brain Smasher. Everyone else? Must do better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Wow great performance from Velasquez, Brock will come back stronger from it because he'll know his size can't overcome everything now, Velasquez will be more than a match for anybody though. JDS is a good threat but unless he catches him early I think that'll be Cain's fight, no doubt someone else will soon come along like they always seem to when you start thinking about unbeaten runs but after JDS I don't see who could even be a bad matchup for Velasquez. Mir, Nelson, Cawin again? I guess the UFC need to decide now whether or not Lesnar needs another win before doing Mir Lesnar 3, winner gets a title shot or if they just do it straight away. That's the one thing Dana will be happy with, at least he gets to do a big money making rematch now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 When all else fails attempt break dance fighting http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad174/camradio/output.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky67 Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 so lesnar was supposed beat Fedor ?? was that guy really ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 When all else fails attempt break dance fighting http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad174/camradio/output.gif Lol, or "Brockdancing" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 brockdancing! lol! I just don't know why Brock did that. New moves though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 CAIN 'The Real Deal' VELASQUEZ Wanted Cain to win, But thought as soon as brock got hold of him it was over. The above qoute is about all that can really be said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Tried to embed but couldnt figure it out:: Dont Know if you guys saw this:: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Tried to embed but couldnt figure it out:: Dont Know if you guys saw this:: Yeah, saw that on Sherdog, pretty mad. Undertaker and the Brockdancer have history, so it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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