Guest Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I am only winning fights anymore by going pretty high counter, now everyone seems to be doing it. I have a fighters on 90% counter and the fight text says I am being the most aggressive fighter. In my opinion it is getting out of control, not only because it means less variable sliders, but it tends to closer fights with less finishes. What does everyone else think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Mike's already working on it. Everyone knows its broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Way overpowered, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 This is like the standup version of the sub spam era... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringfinger Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Can't remember the last time I went aggressive in a fight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Hey! Look! Edfan voted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Mike's already working on it. Everyone knows its broken. I think it was more on measuring how severe people think it is, and thus prioritizing it for Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 This is like the standup version of the sub spam era... Damn, I agree 100 percent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Absolutely overpowered, I just experienced that in my last fight (and many in the past). In general I would love all my upcoming fights to be postponed till it's fixed because it takes all the joy from the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 i only recently discovered the joys of counter. so can we no take it out yet.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky67 Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 I am only winning fights anymore by going pretty high counter, now everyone seems to be doing it. I have a fighters on 90% counter and the fight text says I am being the most aggressive fighter. In my opinion it is getting out of control, not only because it means less variable sliders, but it tends to closer fights with less finishes. What does everyone else think? So you win because your opponents has a shitty gameplan . Maybe he would have won if he was 80%counter . 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Whats especially bad is the combination of high counter + reach advantage - there is very very little that can be done against that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceTempleton Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Yay another thread about countering! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Yay another thread about countering! No need to be so... aggressive! http://instantrimshot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Its this simple. Counter is clearly not working as intended. But if we nerf Counter into the ground and buff Agro then frankly we run the risk of solving nothing we simply change the end of the spectrum people are setting sliders for i-win buttons. A a lot of consideration is going to have to go into finding the correct balance, a quick fix is only going to compound the issue in the long run. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutz Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 IMO countering should be less and less effective when fight goes on. Its like in real life. If you see that someone is just countering you should be able to take advantage on that. Another solution could be that you shouldnt win fight with dec when you are just countering with high accuracy. That would force counter fighters to set sliders to more damage. IMO countering is ok when you will counter with big bombs and try to KO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Once change implemented that would also reflect real life is: The longer time that passes without any fighter throwing anything, the higher the chance the first next strike lands. This would give a slight boost to the fighter who has 80% counter as oppose to the one that has 100%. The 80% fighter will be the one to throw first more often. In real life this can be seen in fighters who are mostly counter, but every once in a while goes on an aggressive spree. Anderson Silva is a good example. When a fighter is mostly counter, one's mind tunes into that pattern of moving. Then aggression is basically "a pattern breaker". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrClean Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Now that this counter problem has been put into the forums basically everyday, the slider has become useless. It might as well not even be there. Every manager now has to set their slider between 90% and 100% because everyone else is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 So you win because your opponents has a shitty gameplan . Maybe he would have won if he was 80%counter . +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I've watched managers that use 100% counter. Should have a maximum and a minimum for this. example: Maximum Aggression: 90% Minimum of aggression (counter): 90% 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Then 90% is the new 100... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis84 Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I remember the days when all I did was pretty high (around 65-75%) Aggro with all my fighters and I look back at those days with fond memories because I actually won fights! Now I just fear every time I go into a fight with more then 35% Aggro because I am almost certain if I do the other guy will counter me into the ground for a Decision win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I've watched managers that use 100% counter. Should have a maximum and a minimum for this. example: Maximum Aggression: 90% Minimum of aggression (counter): 90% Then 90% is the new 100... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbVKWCpNFhY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatacre Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbVKWCpNFhY Love Spinal Tap So good, as well, that in the UK the BBC set up it's internet TV player volume to go to 11. Fantastic homage to Spinal Tap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 doesnt high accuracy counter that? less misses more aggression = more points does it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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