iloveme8 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Do you guys always start your projects from age of 18? It gives you a light advantage in long time period, right? After six months real time (two years game time) the average 18 year old will surpass the average 22 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Yeah, i mean if you give your project 6 months of training at 18 before a fight, and you train him right, there's no doubt he'd be a monster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted December 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 I had a project fight with about 4 weeks training. In that time, his wrestling popped 3-4 times, his boxing popped 3 times, and his JJ popped once. I was also able to get his conditioning up to remarkable and his strength to superb. But imo, 18 is the way to go for projects. I have 4 projects and 2 are fighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 was that presparring changes PSU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted December 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 well his main stats popped because of the sparring he was doing but he was also working on secondary stats at that time as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Bravo to this thread. I was convinced that it would die out pretty quickly because I didn't find it really interesting. Nice to see that other people try to help eachother out by giving advice. I must say I don't agree with a lot of things said here, but some other points of view never hurt. Information can only help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 The clinch is imo, the most underutilized and effective weapon in the game. Its so often neglected that you can clinch some excellent fighters to death. Yes, some managers of strikers don't make an anticlinching plan and you can just grab em and beat the shit of them, or sometimes they even go to the clinch themselves lol. If your up against a guy with high MT in comparison to bjj and boxing stay striking on the outside or shoot from the outside! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 I must say I don't agree with a lot of things said here Now why does that not surprise me? that said i cant argue with your fight record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Now why does that not surprise me? that said i cant argue with your fight record. I can't really see how he can argue when you have some of the most successful and respected managers weighing their opinions in here. These guys have the record they do for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I can't really see how he can argue when you have some of the most successful and respected managers weighing their opinions in here. These guys have the record they do for a reason. That's because I am not arguing. I'm weighing my opinion. Why do you bother to make this thread if only the opinions of the respected managers matter? I'm even the one who came up with some of the ideas you brought up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonkey Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Yes, some managers of strikers don't make an anticlinching plan and you can just grab em and beat the shit of them, or sometimes they even go to the clinch themselves lol. If your up against a guy with high MT in comparison to bjj and boxing stay striking on the outside or shoot from the outside! Unless he's a pure headkicker, that is. Having a really bad streak recently, but one of the only wins I got was against a guy who's boxing was worse than mine but MT was better. But he was a headkicker, so I clinched aggressively and ground out the win. Totally owned in the clinch. And it wasn't that I would have won on the outside anyway. He knocked me down twice with headkicks before I could clinch him up the first time. Fortunately, I had the edge on the ground, so he just stood up from mount both times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 That's because I am not arguing. I'm weighing my opinion. Why do you bother to make this thread if only the opinions of the respected managers matter? I'm even the one who came up with some of the ideas you brought up here. I have several issues with your posts in this thread so I'll air them all out here. 1. I never said it was restricted to respected managers but at the end of the day, they are the ones who know more than 99.99999999999% of the other managers. 2. I made this thread to help other new managers and advise them on the dos and don'ts of building fighters. I feel this is a strong suit of mine in the game. I concede that gameplanning is a weakness of mine. If Avon created a thread on gameplanning, I would listen to every word he said. Likewise, when I created this thread, its a good idea to take notes as I have proven to be good in this respect. 3. I would really like to know what ideas here you came up with. Aside from advising managers to make their projects 18 and build them with 1 strength and 10 conditioning, these are 100% my own ideas and if you are implying I stole them, then I take serious offense. I spent about an hour writing this and even more time giving advice here. I'm more than qualified and my record is evidence. You said you don't agree with many things brought up here. Let's here where you think I went wrong. I'm not calling you out. I don't particularly care for most of the things you post but at the end of the day, you are not a bad manager. So if you think you know something I don't, let's hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 was that presparring changes PSU? I completely misinterpreted your post but yes, I built him after the changes in sparring. So he is not a super-roided fighter. He is very legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Can't a good record also mean you only have project fighters, you only fight fights you can win and your doing that since day one. You just need to know things in this game and the rest is maths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 1. I never said it was restricted to respected managers but at the end of the day, they are the ones who know more than 99.99999999999% of the other managers. 2. I made this thread to help other new managers and advise them on the dos and don'ts of building fighters. 3. Aside from advising managers to make their projects 18 and build them with 1 strength and 10 conditioning. 1. No, but you can't see how somebody could possibly disagree with what's already said in this thread. Don't be ridiculous, half of the posts here are yours. 2. That's why I cheer this thread on. This thread certainly serves it's purpose. 3. Do you know where that came from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Kicker Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Judo is much harder to learn that BJJ. but BJJ is much harder to master. i took judo for about 6 months and pretty much hated it. it was so boring. i transitioned into karate (kwon ryu fu chi do, to be specific, which is a blend of 5 different styles), and did it for 6 years (got my black belt). MUCH more stuff to learn/master. maybe it was just my instructors in the judo classes i took, but it just seemed so basic and boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Kicker Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 oh snap, just got my black belt in here too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveme8 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Hey PSUMike, have you ever seen a fighter who essentially maxed out both Takedown Offense and Takedown Defense upon creation and made a living taking down boxers and stuffing BJJers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted December 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Hey PSUMike, have you ever seen a fighter who essentially maxed out both Takedown Offense and Takedown Defense upon creation and made a living taking down boxers and stuffing BJJers? No, I haven't but that is the goal of my newest project, Josh Godcheck. His bread and butter will be his ground and pound but against a very tough BJJ guy, I would like to give him enough boxing skills that he'd pull off the KO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonkey Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I have a fighter like that. Not really on purpose, though. I wasn't gonna fight him for a good long while, and created him as a wrestling trainer in my gym. Took any secondaries that related to wrestling (well not clinchwork) just in case. Then I got bored, so he's fighting. I tend to get bored quickly, so my 18 year olds all have several fights. Doing pretty ok though, luckily. However, my fighters all have more balance than a lot of other managers'. I focus on working to my opponents' weaknesses more than on my fighters' strengths. I've found it to work pretty well in general, though I am going through a rough patch now, as I've mentioned before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted December 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 i took judo for about 6 months and pretty much hated it. it was so boring. i transitioned into karate (kwon ryu fu chi do, to be specific, which is a blend of 5 different styles), and did it for 6 years (got my black belt). MUCH more stuff to learn/master. maybe it was just my instructors in the judo classes i took, but it just seemed so basic and boring. As a wrestler, we tend to look down upon judo as a lesser form. Judo is just a watered down version of freestyle wrestling in a gi with shitty takedowns. I think I could have made a very easy transition to judo from wrestling but I went to BJJ and striking instead. BJJ was a very easy transition as well as I already had good hips from wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 As a wrestler, we tend to look down upon judo as a lesser form. Judo is just a watered down version of freestyle wrestling in a gi with shitty takedowns. I think I could have made a very easy transition to judo from wrestling but I went to BJJ and striking instead. BJJ was a very easy transition as well as I already had good hips from wrestling. I'm one of those guys who, years later, kicks himself in the ass for not taking wrestling more seriously in high school. Ahhh to lament missed opportunity. Stupid football tricking me into switching sports. And I also agree, Judo is boring for the most part, but some of the throws get to be a lot of fun to practice. I even trained in Kendo for awhile to round out my exposure to martial arts. Fun stuff, though rough on the feetz and handz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Kicker Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I'm one of those guys who, years later, kicks himself in the ass for not taking wrestling more seriously in high school. Ahhh to lament missed opportunity. Stupid football tricking me into switching sports. And I also agree, Judo is boring for the most part, but some of the throws get to be a lot of fun to practice. I even trained in Kendo for awhile to round out my exposure to martial arts. Fun stuff, though rough on the feetz and handz. yeah, the throws were fun, although we had plenty of throws and submissions in kwon ryu fu chi do, so i didn't miss them kendo sounds cool, i always liked training with weapons. here was our belt/weapon progression: white yellow orange green - tonfa brown - nunchuku red - bo staff blue - (no new weapon, but blue belt had us creating forms and self defense techniques, which was a LOT of fun) black - sai 2nd degree - katana and dual nunchuku i think 5th degree was dual katana, but don't remember the rest (it went up to 10th degree) as far as stuff being rough on the hands and feet; all of our training was barefoot, and we used to go on runs barefoot too (this was in a relatively small town, and there wasn't a lot of broken glass/etc on the roads/sidewalks). we'd train in the park too, which was always fun, since it was more difficult to train on uneven ground. although, i still remember stubbing my toe on the sidewalk during one of our runs, and ripping all the skin off the tip of my big toe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 i train bjj in real life, and there really isnt that many submissions, there are more transitions and sweeps than anything, and thats what i've found hardest in bjj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted December 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 i train bjj in real life, and there really isnt that many submissions, there are more transitions and sweeps than anything, and thats what i've found hardest in bjj This is true. There are only so many ways you can submit someone but there are many more ways to get into the proper position to submit someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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