ShaneOMac Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Also, what are the differences between building a 18 year old fighter and a 22 year old fighter? (hidden skills wise) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sathias Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Also, what are the differences between building a 18 year old fighter and a 22 year old fighter? (hidden skills wise) 18 year old fighters learn quicker, even on top of their hidden learning stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneOMac Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 18 year old fighters learn quicker, even on top of their hidden learning stat. How big is the gap between the ratings? I was looking at some raw numbers between my fighters and the difference in pops are about 2-3 training sessions, so the difference isn't that big. I would think that the bonus skills from the age difference outweigh the learning speed difference. Opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted September 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 How big is the gap between the ratings? I was looking at some raw numbers between my fighters and the difference in pops are about 2-3 training sessions, so the difference isn't that big. I would think that the bonus skills from the age difference outweigh the learning speed difference. Opinions? You said its about 2-3 sessions but you are forgetting to compound it. So if your 22 year old goes from useless to strong 40 sessions, your 18 year old will do it in 24-32 sessions. That's a hell of a difference. Think of it like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 How i built Lyoto Machida...wonderful takedown defence wonderful striking defence respectable kicks and punches proficient wrestling and muay thai spread out the physical attributes somewhat even and then do circuit training the sliders for aggression vs. counter has to be on the counter side if you really want him to be lyoto the only time i ever lost with lyoto is when he followed someone to the ground after knocking them down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneOMac Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 You said its about 2-3 sessions but you are forgetting to compound it. So if your 22 year old goes from useless to strong 40 sessions, your 18 year old will do it in 24-32 sessions. That's a hell of a difference. Think of it like that. I meant 2-3 total as in 18 year olds take 16 sessions to go from Abysmal to Wonderful and 22 year olds take 19 sessions to go from Abysmal to Wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted September 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Well are you talking about training strength and conditioning or otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneOMac Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Well are you talking about training strength and conditioning or otherwise? This is just for conditioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted September 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Conditioning and strength aren't affected by age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 I like the Belfort model, high boxing and subs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted September 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 I like the Belfort model, high boxing and subs Belfort doesn't submit people. That style has earned the monicker the "BJ Penn" style...even though I hate BJ. One of my best fighters, Layne Staley, is built from that mold. He doesn't look like it now though since his wrestling has gone from useless-- to respectable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted September 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 I like the Belfort model, high boxing and subs And on that note, your old fighter Dungeon Master was one of those. He challenged YB Sol and took him to a decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplyput Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 i think this guide is pretty helpful in general...besides I'd rather my guys win against newbs who kneh how to make their fighters rather than fight ones that didn't know what they were doing. I just wish this was out here when I first started...I originally made some bums, and wasted a lot of time on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 May have some new managers who haven't seen this yet. Time to bring back to the front! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 The findings from this thread should really be added to the wiki on a link in the new users/create a fighter area. Its not unfair to help people not waste there time who bother to read the wiki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Here's a fighter i just made, first one i think i didnt totally screw up(hope i didnt). Is this a good way to go? and where should i build him from here, i was thinking of raising boxing to like 30ish then concentrating on wrestling. Boxing Useless Punches Respectable Agility Proficient Muay Thai Proficient Kicks Respectable Flexibility Proficient Wrestling Useless Elbows Useless Speed Woeful BJJ Proficient Knees Respectable Strength Useless Clinchwork Respectable Conditioning Abysmal Striking Defense Respectable Balance Feeble Ground n Pound Useless Takedown Off Useless Takedown Def Useless Submissions Respectable Defensive Grap Respectable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 *sorry, i spaced that out when i typed it i dont know why it showed up like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Here's a fighter i just made, first one i think i didnt totally screw up(hope i didnt). Is this a good way to go? and where should i build him from here, i was thinking of raising boxing to like 30ish then concentrating on wrestling. Boxing Useless Muay Thai Proficient Wrestling Useless BJJ Proficient Punches Respectable Kicks Respectable Elbows Useless Knees Respectable Clinchwork Respectable Striking Defense Respectable Ground n Pound Useless Takedown Off Useless Takedown Def Useless Submissions Respectable Defensive Grap Respectable Agility Proficient Flexibility Proficient Speed Woeful Conditioning Abysmal Strength Useless Balance Feeble I edited it so its easier for me to read and analyze. Well this is a solid start on an Anderson Silva build. Obviously, conditioning and strength are your first 2 priorities. After that, work on his subs and sub defense. Then go boxing and wrestling/tdd. Not a bad start though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I edited it so its easier for me to read and analyze. Well this is a solid start on an Anderson Silva build. Obviously, conditioning and strength are your first 2 priorities. After that, work on his subs and sub defense. Then go boxing and wrestling/tdd. Not a bad start though. One thing i was wondering, you didnt mention needing speed at all, but does low speed hurt your striking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 For pure striking, agility and speed are most important in the physicals. Strength and conditioning help everything. Flexibility helps high kicks and subs. Balance helps TD defense and top position grappling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Oh man, this is completely awesome. Thanks for this. Makes me a bit secure how I built up my last two fighters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Thanks. makes me wish i put a little more into his speed, i hope he can catch up. Thank you for this guide, found it very helpful. My first 2 figthers were pretty spread out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Thanks. makes me wish i put a little more into his speed, i hope he can catch up. Thank you for this guide, found it very helpful. My first 2 figthers were pretty spread out. I have a 7-0 Liddell with pretty low speed. He has 6 wins by KO so don't sweat it too much. Agility is more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=40313 Hopefully he will turn out to become a cro crop, but I was wondering if I should work on my BJJ or just leave it and work on my wrestling. Then from there on my boxing and then back to Muay Thai. Obviously I wont be doing non stop sparring, but I just need to know which primary skill I should focus on and in which order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUMike Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=40313 Hopefully he will turn out to become a cro crop, but I was wondering if I should work on my BJJ or just leave it and work on my wrestling. Then from there on my boxing and then back to Muay Thai. Obviously I wont be doing non stop sparring, but I just need to know which primary skill I should focus on and in which order. There is a simple answer that only you know. If you want him to stand and KO people, work on his wrestling and TDD. If you want him to be able to sub people in addition to KOing people, then work his subs and BJJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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