WarMachine Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 Absolute beast mode those guys absolute elite. Dedication to the life of Muay Thai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularJohn Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 They didn't do that because of Overeem, they did it because of Buakaw. They restricted the clinch to 5 seconds and one knee because of Buakaw; Then they restricted it to one hand, immediate knee because of Overeem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooncutter Posted May 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Frankly, i did not like that change in the rules, in the second fight with Hari he was basically not allowed to use this technique and i do not see the problem with it. Yeah it was stupid. One armed clinch? Wtf? The fighters kept going for the normal clinch because it's all musle memory, and the judge had to stop them all the time. Better to forbid the clinch alltogether. But then it's kickboxing and not K1, you know. Then call it kickboxing, don't call it something else. Ubereem won K1, that bastard. AND his ground game was good. How talented was he jesus christ? He had perfect energy managment, which is rare for a heavyweight and extremely important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 They restricted the clinch to 5 seconds and one knee because of Buakaw; Then they restricted it to one hand, immediate knee because of Overeem. Fairly sure that was to get Buakaw to leave after the 2009 GP (he didn't compete the year after that rule change); K-1 had no desire to stop Overeem winning, he was good business for them -- they actually featured him massively on the 2010 WGP final poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 The problem in this game with clinching is that you can spend a whole round in the clinch if both fighters are not set to break the clinch. I feel there should be clinch seperations if there is no action happening like stalling etc. I have literally never seen a clinch seperation so far in any of my fights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 The problem in this game with clinching is that you can spend a whole round in the clinch if both fighters are not set to break the clinch. I feel there should be clinch seperations if there is no action happening like stalling etc. I have literally never seen a clinch seperation so far in any of my fights. I don't think I've seen this either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularJohn Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Fairly sure that was to get Buakaw to leave after the 2009 GP (he didn't compete the year after that rule change); K-1 had no desire to stop Overeem winning, he was good business for them -- they actually featured him massively on the 2010 WGP final poster. They obviously never came out and spelled it out so there are different interpretations. as I recall there was a slight tweak in clinch rules after Overeem won the K-1 WGP in 2010 but at that point K-1 was dying, I don't even remember how fights played out after that. I also didn't imply they wanted to get rid of Overeem. the japanese just aren't very fond of the clinch. even today K-1 Japan is the one of all major kickboxing orgs that is the most restrictive of clinching. it's actually pretty annoying because guys will hold to get out of bad spots and then none of them can do anything. IMO kickboxing rules should allow unlimited clinching and if they wanna ensure a more active clinch than muay thai then their refs can break it up accordingly - but that would be a mess because kickboxing refs are the worst of all combat sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularJohn Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Yeah it was stupid. One armed clinch? Wtf? The fighters kept going for the normal clinch because it's all musle memory, and the judge had to stop them all the time. Better to forbid the clinch alltogether. But then it's kickboxing and not K1, you know. Then call it kickboxing, don't call it something else. K-1 is kickboxing mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyScat Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 How about within the context of the game? Have there been any MMAT fighters known for elbows or knees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howler Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Ya he's one of the best examples. He was so good they even changed THE RULES of K1. They made the two-armed clinch illegal. I can only say one thing about that: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Ubereem won K1, that bastard. AND his ground game was good. How talented was he jesus christ? He had perfect energy managment, which is rare for a heavyweight and extremely important. He was juiced to the freakin' gills. Even his brother doesn't deny the steroid allegations. Overoid is a prime example of the short term positive effects of an over-juicing athlete. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 He was juiced to the freakin' gills. Even his brother doesn't deny the steroid allegations. Overoid is a prime example of the short term positive effects of an over-juicing athlete. I drink apple juice every day yet still nowhere near Overeem's phisique. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 I think Overreem is a natural middleweight or something around that. Clearly he is on the roids to get up to higher weights and muscle mass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 I think Overreem is a natural middleweight or something around that. Clearly he is on the roids to get up to higher weights and muscle mass. Lol, even without roids Reem is a natural Heavyweight. Non-roided Reem could barely make Light Heavyweight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannetosen Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 yeah even skinny reem in his early 20s nearly ruined his kidneys making lhw in pride. the dude is like 6'5 tall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duphus Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 The problem in this game with clinching is that you can spend a whole round in the clinch if both fighters are not set to break the clinch. I feel there should be clinch seperations if there is no action happening like stalling etc. I have literally never seen a clinch seperation so far in any of my fights. I've seen one, wasn't my fight so I'd never fight it. But it was one guy was stalling heavily and RGN just happened to make the other guy stall like twice in a row and the ref broke it up. Only time I've seen it in the game. Come to think of it, I think it was one of his fighters http://www.mmatycoon.com/managerprofilemanager.php?MgrID=66050. I'm pretty sure it was cause I only saw it because me and shortfuse was talking about it and he knew what blunts did for sliders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooncutter Posted May 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 I can only say one thing about that: hhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha. KNEES OF DEATH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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