MpJuice Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 That would be a cool new addition if you were able to sell or buy fighters. For example, if you could sell directly or at auction. What you guys think? Also for the game owner that could put some extra money in his pocket it, for example, you would have to spend x amount of VIP days to enter auction or use sell/buy option? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcool Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 That would be a cool new addition if you were able to sell or buy fighters. For example, if you could sell directly or at auction. What you guys think? Also for the game owner that could put some extra money in his pocket it, for example, you would have to spend x amount of VIP days to enter auction or use sell/buy option? You're a tool humours, but yes, this would be cool. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeF Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 I don't like pay2win features. Would have been cool suggestion if we weren't able to swap real money for in-game currency. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoarseWhisperer Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 I would support any new features that line Mike's pockets, especially if he used that money to bring on a fresh mind to work on the server and upload features with his approval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MpJuice Posted July 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 I don't like pay2win features. Would have been cool suggestion if we weren't able to swap real money for in-game currency. Â You would have to buy/sell fighters only for game money. VIP days you had to use to join auction would be a pretty low amount for example something like 2-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeF Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Â You would have to buy/sell fighters only for game money. VIP days you had to use to join auction would be a pretty low amount for example something like 2-4. Â read my post again humors 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Buying and selling fighters is retarded. Â Imagine Ali selling Khabib to Greg Jackson. Concept is retarded. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbMogg Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 I suppose it's a bit like fighters changing promoters after they reach a certain level and want to go onto bigger and better things. Sounds like a good idea in principle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 This idea is not as retarded as it sounds. At the moment the guy with the highest rank or people with spin and win tickets get the best fighters, so it is debatable what is best. I mean as it works now, the guys on top (or random managers who spin and win) get to cherry pick the best fighters all the time. This way we see the same managers dominate over and over, at least this way the talent will be more distributed. Â Besides that, the current system has a major flaw, the way it works now, those high ranking managers basically pick up fighters, launder them and then release, in fact this is how the #1 manager made most of his money. Â If there is an auction system, this can actually be stopped. You wont know who bidden the most (the same way the companies work now that are on auction), the manager who bidden the highest gets the fighter. There should be a rule that stops you from bidding less than the fighter holds in his account, this will stop people from simply laundering fighter. If nobody bids the minimum, then the fighter will still end up on the FA list and the highest ranking managers can pick them up. Â Also, i do not see any major issue with managers selling their fighters, i mean why not? Orgs and businesses are sold, so why not fighters? Again, there should be the rule that you need to bid what the fighter has in their account. I also think there should not be a direct selling, the fighters should go on auction, to avoid managers manipulating rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcool Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 This idea is not as retarded as it sounds. At the moment the guy with the highest rank or people with spin and win tickets get the best fighters, so it is debatable what is best. I mean as it works now, the guys on top (or random managers who spin and win) get to cherry pick the best fighters all the time. This way we see the same managers dominate over and over, at least this way the talent will be more distributed. Â Besides that, the current system has a major flaw, the way it works now, those high ranking managers basically pick up fighters, launder them and then release, in fact this is how the #1 manager made most of his money. Â If there is an auction system, this can actually be stopped. You wont know who bidden the most (the same way the companies work now that are on auction), the manager who bidden the highest gets the fighter. There should be a rule that stops you from bidding less than the fighter holds in his account, this will stop people from simply laundering fighter. If nobody bids the minimum, then the fighter will still end up on the FA list and the highest ranking managers can pick them up. Â Also, i do not see any major issue with managers selling their fighters, i mean why not? Orgs and businesses are sold, so why not fighters? Again, there should be the rule that you need to bid what the fighter has in their account. I also think there should not be a direct selling, the fighters should go on auction, to avoid managers manipulating rules. I beg to differ! I did NOT make most of my money this way Ivan Drago did though =P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 I beg to differ! I did NOT make most of my money this way Ivan Drago did though =P  #1 i said the top manager (i meant in income).  And since you brought this up, lets look at your fighters:  http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=280337 (David Brent Fighter) Former #1 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=282844 (Johnny Lee Fighter) Former #1 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=310603 (Jake Fury fighter) Former #1 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=316012 (Northern Ninja's Fighter) Former #7 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=312834 (Northern Ninja's Fighter) Former #7 manager  Among the top 6 ranking fighters you have fought with in the past month, 5 are fighters you picked up via FA (only one was home grown). All those fighters were managed by high ranking managers in the past.  This is a perfect example of what i am saying. The current system keeps the top on the top and allows managers to launder for big cash, earning them more than any other type of company in the game. If anything, the new system will at least create some type of balance. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsieur.Camara Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 #1 i said the top manager (i meant in income).  And since you brought this up, lets look at your fighters:  http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=280337 (David Brent Fighter) Former #1 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=282844 (Johnny Lee Fighter) Former #1 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=310603 (Jake Fury fighter) Former #1 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=316012 (Northern Ninja's Fighter) Former #7 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=312834 (Northern Ninja's Fighter) Former #7 manager  Among the top 6 ranking fighters you have fought with in the past month, 5 are fighters you picked up via FA (only one was home grown). All those fighters were managed by high ranking managers in the past.  This is a perfect example of what i am saying. The current system keeps the top on the top and allows managers to launder for big cash, earning them more than any other type of company in the game. If anything, the new system will at least create some type of balance.  Haha  Owned 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcool Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019  #1 i said the top manager (i meant in income).  And since you brought this up, lets look at your fighters:  http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=280337 (David Brent Fighter) Former #1 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=282844 (Johnny Lee Fighter) Former #1 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=310603 (Jake Fury fighter) Former #1 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=316012 (Northern Ninja's Fighter) Former #7 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=312834 (Northern Ninja's Fighter) Former #7 manager  Among the top 6 ranking fighters you have fought with in the past month, 5 are fighters you picked up via FA (only one was home grown). All those fighters were managed by high ranking managers in the past.  This is a perfect example of what i am saying. The current system keeps the top on the top and allows managers to launder for big cash, earning them more than any other type of company in the game. If anything, the new system will at least create some type of balance.  Then say the richest manager, not #1 manager. Ivan Drago is as far from a #1 manager as Grumpy is from a war hero.  Also, in regards to fighting FAs: None of those managers have accomplished anything near what I have with those fighters(obviously not saying anything negative about those managers). Besides Johnny Lees fighter(who I've only fought twice), the top ranks of ALL of my fighters were all achieved by me: my sliders, my training schedules, etc. Don't say odd shit. As a side note, a number of my fighters fought for free for a longgggg time, so I did not make money off them.  I do agree that having the ability to "sell" fighters is a good thing, and that the current FA pickup system has its plus and minuses. On one hand, the best managers have a means to make their rosters even stronger. On the other hand, they are more successful than other managers and deserve to have the privilege. A 300 ranked manager should not have a right to pick up best fighters in the game without doing anything of note to earn the privilege. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MpJuice Posted July 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Â Then say the richest manager, not #1 manager. Ivan Drago is as far from a #1 manager as Grumpy is from a war hero. Â Also, in regards to fighting FAs: None of those managers have accomplished anything near what I have with those fighters(obviously not saying anything negative about those managers). Besides Johnny Lees fighter(who I've only fought twice), the top ranks of ALL of my fighters were all achieved by me: my sliders, my training schedules, etc. Don't say odd shit. As a side note, a number of my fighters fought for free for a longgggg time, so I did not make money off them. Â I do agree that having the ability to "sell" fighters is a good thing, and that the current FA pickup system has its plus and minuses. On one hand, the best managers have a means to make their rosters even stronger. On the other hand, they are more successful than other managers and deserve to have the privilege. A 300 ranked manager should not have a right to pick up best fighters in the game without doing anything of note to earn the privilege. Â Everything but predictions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeF Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 So are you all okay with someone bringing his dollars, buying a lot of VIP, exchanging it for tycoon cash and getting all the best FAs, just because he is willing to spend more money on this game compared to other players? Might as well list offers like 100$ for instant KO in next fight. Yeah, pay to win might bring some extra short-term income to Mike, but the game would suffer more from it long-term. Now, only thing you could do with real cash here is to provide top 1on1 training for your fighters - also not fair, but I don't mind since almost everyone is having enough money to afford it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeF Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019  #1 i said the top manager (i meant in income).  And since you brought this up, lets look at your fighters:  http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=280337 (David Brent Fighter) Former #1 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=282844 (Johnny Lee Fighter) Former #1 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=310603 (Jake Fury fighter) Former #1 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=316012 (Northern Ninja's Fighter) Former #7 manager http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=312834 (Northern Ninja's Fighter) Former #7 manager  Among the top 6 ranking fighters you have fought with in the past month, 5 are fighters you picked up via FA (only one was home grown). All those fighters were managed by high ranking managers in the past.  This is a perfect example of what i am saying. The current system keeps the top on the top and allows managers to launder for big cash, earning them more than any other type of company in the game. If anything, the new system will at least create some type of balance.   You are wrong on so many levels here. The current system allows you to get to top10 only with Island fighters as there have been multiple examples, which opens up the way to top level FAs. If you are good enough, you can get to that spot in several months, which is pretty decent, considering the game is 10yo already.  As for all the fighters you have listed above, most werent anywhere near top100 when Alex picked them up. It always does matter who manages the fighter. As you are a fan of the perfect examples, I'll give you some:  http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=303008 http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=265009 http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=264971 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Buying fighters or bidding on them is retarded. Period. If a fighter left X Manager who is a nobody, and had to employ a new manager, is it unrealistic to think he'd hire most qualified manager that wants him? Not really. Sure rankings are a bit flawed but one of the last things we need is some BS trade fighters system. Â Sorry, it's just a really bad idea with many holes. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Â Then say the richest manager, not #1 manager. Ivan Drago is as far from a #1 manager as Grumpy is from a war hero. Â I was talking about money and laundering, so i thought it was obvious. Â So are you all okay with someone bringing his dollars, buying a lot of VIP, exchanging it for tycoon cash and getting all the best FAs, just because he is willing to spend more money on this game compared to other players? Might as well list offers like 100$ for instant KO in next fight. Yeah, pay to win might bring some extra short-term income to Mike, but the game would suffer more from it long-term. Now, only thing you could do with real cash here is to provide top 1on1 training for your fighters - also not fair, but I don't mind since almost everyone is having enough money to afford it. Â Â As for all the fighters you have listed above, most werent anywhere near top100 when Alex picked them up. It always does matter who manages the fighter. As you are a fan of the perfect examples, I'll give you some: http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=303008 http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=265009 http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=264971 Â So what is your solution to what i mentioned? I am referring to using rank for FA laundering purposes? At least with the auction, you avoid that from happening because you cannot bid lower than the fighters bank account. Â Another option is to simply force managers who pick up FA's to have a certain amount of fights before being allowed to launder (eg 3 or 4). Â Â I did not say they were top 100 when Alex picked them up, nor am i saying that Alex is a bad manager, of course not, he is one of the best in the game at the moment! I am saying that he used his rank to sign top quality fighters, who already had months of invested time by top ranking managers. Â Anyway, it is kind of pointless arguing this in the forums because the managers participating in this debate are essentially former or current #1 ranked managers, they have the most to lose from such a change. Both systems have their pluses and minuses, plus the current system has significant flaws. Personally i would not mind seeing the current system sorted out, that would be easier to implement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeF Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Â I was talking about money and laundering, so i thought it was obvious. Â Â So what is your solution to what i mentioned? I am referring to using rank for FA laundering purposes? At least with the auction, you avoid that from happening because you cannot bid lower than the fighters bank account. Â Another option is to simply force managers who pick up FA's to have a certain amount of fights before being allowed to launder (eg 3 or 4). Â Ehm, why need to tweak the FA system just to remove a feature that really wasn't supposed to be in the game at first? Couldn't you just remove laundry in some way lol? Or just reset every FA's cash to 3k upon release? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MpJuice Posted July 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Â Ehm, why need to tweak the FA system just to remove a feature that really wasn't supposed to be in the game at first? Couldn't you just remove laundry in some way lol? Or just reset every FA's cash to 3k upon release? Â No manager to manager transfers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Â Ehm, why need to tweak the FA system just to remove a feature that really wasn't supposed to be in the game at first? Couldn't you just remove laundry in some way lol? Or just reset every FA's cash to 3k upon release? Â I do not think laundry is a problem at all, in fact it is a significant part of this game and the mechanics. The problem is laundering "other people's shit" for free, that is a problem. The income generated by someone else fighter, is not something you earned, that is for sure. Maybe resetting the fighter's bank account to a maximum of 20k or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeF Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Â No manager to manager transfers. Â This wont stop laundry but would hurt avatar trading or just simply helping a newbie. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzypants Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Â Ehm, why need to tweak the FA system just to remove a feature that really wasn't supposed to be in the game at first? Couldn't you just remove laundry in some way lol? Or just reset every FA's cash to 3k upon release? Resetting the FAs cash like this is definitely a good idea. I'm sure it was previously talked about and can't be too hard to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyM5 Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Buying fighters or bidding on them is retarded. Period. If a fighter left X Manager who is a nobody, and had to employ a new manager, is it unrealistic to think he'd hire most qualified manager that wants him? Not really. Sure rankings are a bit flawed but one of the last things we need is some BS trade fighters system. Â Sorry, it's just a really bad idea with many holes. This plus the pay to win argument. Let's not go down this road... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcool Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 This plus the pay to win argument. Let's not go down this road... This game is already a pay 2 win game. Non-VIP managers are put at such a disadvantage that they rarely succeed at any level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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