Skuzbukit Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 Messages sent by email from Fighter to Manager & what they indicate: 1A. <Fighter name> stubbed his toe getting out of the shower. After talking about his experience to an MMA radio show, the popular opinion is that he's a bit dim but in a loveable way. 1B. <Fighter name> took part in a documentary about MMA. He was selected because the documentary makers valued his expert opinion, as a true student of the game. Stubbed Toe IQ - Between 75 & 99 Average IQ - Between 100 & 124 MMA Documentary - Between 125 & 150 3. One of your fighters, <Fighter name>, attended an amateur MMA show to support cancer research. A popular move amongst local fans. Means fighter is more popular than average. 4. <Fighter name>, had a particularly nice phone conversation with his parents today, which cheered him up no end. ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 Not 100% sure about #2 Bob. I think that one is about experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daudy Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 I think you're very right with #1 and #2. There could be some experience element tied to it, but I've had a few discussions over times with different managers (some with extensive records of IQs tested and/or hiddens revealed) and no one can really recall a #2 message popping without having some smarts. Another clue is that it's always the same guys who stub their toes and the same guys who get docos, and I haven't heard of anybody that has had both. In regards to #3, I guess you could test this by comparing a before and after with the inspect element. To see if the bar is any difference in size. Just a bit of work given you never know when you'll pop that message. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator001 Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 #2 definitely IQ, i have had tons and it is always fighters with 125 IQ up toe stub iq usually 75 - 90 IQ never seen one for a higher iq than that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daudy Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Gator001 said: #2 definitely IQ, i have had tons and it is always fighters with 125 IQ up toe stub iq usually 75 - 90 IQ never seen one for a higher iq than that You were one of the people I remember talking about this. As for toe stub though, I've definitely had it on guys that have tested above 90, but still under 100. Hard to say though given IQ tests aren't precise, so the variance might be showing them as smarter/dumber than they are. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator001 Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 yeah toe stub i am not certain exact iq range only that it is always means low IQ, but i am very confident on the documentary one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprooch Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 On 6/12/2023 at 10:06 AM, Skuzbukit said: Have searched but not found much info on these so would appreciate any feedback to this post which I will use to update the topic, and feel free to add any other email messages & meanings & will add them to the top post. Here's the few I have seen so far. 1. <Fighter name> stubbed his toe getting out of the shower. After talking about his experience to an MMA radio show, the popular opinion is that he's a bit dim but in a loveable way. Means fighter is below average intelligence? 2. <Fighter name> took part in a documentary about MMA. He was selected because the documentary makers valued his expert opinion, as a true student of the game. Means fighter is above average intelligence? 3. <Fighter name> attended a charity event about cancer research today. It was a popular move among MMA fans. Means a small boost to popularity was given? 1. Mean he's a dunce. Always make him FMO.. Also he'll be slower in going for the kill when he has someone stunned. 2. High Fight IQ, he can SHIG a lot more if you so choose, he'll adapt fast in the fight if he's allowed to do via predicts. 3. Means he's a popular fighter, always thank the fans and if you go on a big streak he will easily become one of biggest names in the org. For reference, Karockas was a fighter of mine with a high pop roll. First Fight, Second Fight, Third Fight and the added boost for being popular fighter was almost double when thanking the fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuzbukit Posted June 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 Good feedback thanks. Will keep this updated if I get any others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 Daudy/Gator. I guess you are right regarding documentary appearances. I got one today and it was my most intelligent fighter. My second-most intelligent fighter has had six or seven. Something in the past had convinced me that it was all about experience, but I now believe you are correct. #11yearsandstilllearning 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator001 Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Columbo said: Daudy/Gator. I guess you are right regarding documentary appearances. I got one today and it was my most intelligent fighter. My second-most intelligent fighter has had six or seven. Something in the past had convinced me that it was all about experience, but I now believe you are correct. #11yearsandstilllearning interesting point...it does seem to me that as the fighters have got older i get the emails more often, but i might be imagining that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daudy Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 On 6/14/2023 at 7:15 AM, Columbo said: Daudy/Gator. I guess you are right regarding documentary appearances. I got one today and it was my most intelligent fighter. My second-most intelligent fighter has had six or seven. Something in the past had convinced me that it was all about experience, but I now believe you are correct. #11yearsandstilllearning All we can do is keep collecting evidence! Everything I've seen so far can't rule out that experience might also play a factor (maybe a hurdle requirement?). Afterall, isn't experience and intel meant to be sort of intertwined? They both do similar things but one can be 'earned' and the other can't. But yeah, it does seem that raw intel does seem to be a component. As for the toe stubbers though, I can confidently say you can get said message with very few fights. One of my toe stubbers has 6 fights total and I'm pretty sure he got the message at 4 or 5 fights. He has had 2 random IQ tests of 92 and 95 within a week of each other. He was so furious at pulling a 92 he resat the test 8 days later and got a 95 and still certified dumb. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyster89 Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 For what it's worth, I have two fighters that have received the "stubbed toe" and "documentary" email messages that have also taken an IQ test. The "stubbed toe" fighter scored a 98 on the IQ test. The "documentary" fighter scored a 144 on his. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 On 6/15/2023 at 9:38 AM, Daudy said: All we can do is keep collecting evidence! We need more dumb fighters! On 6/15/2023 at 9:38 AM, Daudy said: One of my toe stubbers has 6 fights total and I'm pretty sure he got the message at 4 or 5 fights. He has had 2 random IQ tests of 92 and 95 within a week of each other. He was so furious at pulling a 92 he resat the test 8 days later and got a 95 and still certified dumb. If Mike adds Miami, we should have many more fighters like that and a deeper database to work with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuzbukit Posted July 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 Had an email message today that I had not seen before: <Fighter name>, had a particularly nice phone conversation with his parents today, which cheered him up no end. Sounds like the fighter may have gained a small morale boost, but his bar doesn't appear to have gained anything more than his clothing change would have provided. Perhaps it may have increased his confidence hidden? Anyone else seen this before & maybe has a better idea about what it does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyster89 Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Skuzbukit said: Had an email message today that I had not seen before: <Fighter name>, had a particularly nice phone conversation with his parents today, which cheered him up no end. Sounds like the fighter may have gained a small morale boost, but his bar doesn't appear to have gained anything more than his clothing change would have provided. Perhaps it may have increased his confidence hidden? Anyone else seen this before & maybe has a better idea about what it does? I've received that one before and worried it was a reflection on low confidence. Does the fighter that got that message drop substantially in morale after a loss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuzbukit Posted July 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, soyster89 said: I've received that one before and worried it was a reflection on low confidence. Does the fighter that got that message drop substantially in morale after a loss? No, his confidence seems good, I thought it might be morale related as I've only seen it on fighters with under 90% morale (after 3 round fights usually), though that is purely circumstantial at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libertarian4321 Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 Quote 4. <Fighter name>, had a particularly nice phone conversation with his parents today, which cheered him up no end. One of my fighters got this one today. "Fyodor Pending, had a particularly nice phone conversation with his parents today, which cheered him up no end." Given that my fighter is 76 years old, he was probably talking to the dead? https://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=59457 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuzbukit Posted September 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 hour ago, libertarian4321 said: One of my fighters got this one today. "Fyodor Pending, had a particularly nice phone conversation with his parents today, which cheered him up no end." Given that my fighter is 76 years old, he was probably talking to the dead? https://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=59457 A small medium at large? Seances are dead boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsquirrel Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 It's sad, but at his age it happens that people get confused sometimes. He should step down from fighting and do something calmer and more appropriate for his age. Run for president in the US maybe? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daudy Posted September 15, 2023 Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 7 hours ago, libertarian4321 said: One of my fighters got this one today. "Fyodor Pending, had a particularly nice phone conversation with his parents today, which cheered him up no end." Given that my fighter is 76 years old, he was probably talking to the dead? https://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=59457 He's so old and taken so many punches, does he even know what a phone is anymore? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfuhrer Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/14/2023 at 6:53 PM, Daudy said: He's so old and taken so many punches, does he even know what a phone is anymore? Mr. Pickle wants to fight him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daudy Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 hours ago, kfuhrer said: Mr. Pickle wants to fight him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know! I had a verbal agreement with manager Bobo Putski and the contract has been on the table for a while now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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